List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading

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If there’s a bid on Welsh before pick 12 I’ll eat my hat. Tactics or no tactics, he’s nowhere near the top 10 in this draft pool at this point, and history shows that father-sons drop further than expected more often than not. Max was a rare exception to this rule.

I’d say Welsh falling outside the top 25 is more far more likely than a bid before pick 10.

Most likely landing spot: right around that Max range (15-20). The only way that changes if he starts kicking bags of 4-5 goals in the SANFL, which I suppose isn’t impossible, but yeah, Mick Godden. Lol.


As for Draper, personally I would rather any of Jagga Smith, Josh Smillie or Finn O’Sullivan for our list than Sid. Sid I would have on par with Christian Moraes, with Moraes firming as a slightly better list fit for mine. Not saying Sid is a poor option by any stretch, but he’s absolutely not going inside the top 5 at this stage, and might fall to around 9-12, especially if there are any flight risk concerns from the VIC clubs.

I agree that moving up to a top 5 pick (if we even need to move up because we’re still a genuine chance of finishing in the bottom 5 at this stage) would be nice for us in order to guarantee a top line mid, but I’d be pulling the trigger on Jagga there rather than Sid without even needing to think twice. Smillie looks a lock to go pick 1 and I just don’t think we’ll ever see a club trade pick 1 - there’s too much fear surrounding the consequences, plus he’s the only type of mid North don’t already have. O’Sullivan is by far the most likely to go at pick 2 and he’s a great fit at Richmond - they aren’t trading that pick in a million years. An Ashcroft bid comes somewhere in the top 6 to push everyone down a spot. The rest is up for debate and some teams will be prioritising talls over mids.

Port have absolutely no way of trading up above where our first pick will fall to take Draper or any other player for that matter, without giving up a superstar. Nobody will value Port’s 2025 first rounder at better than pick 18-20 value in the 2024 draft, and Port’s first 2024 pick is in the mid 30s (their own second rounder). Even combining their best picks in 2024 and 2025 would get them maybe to pick 14-15 at best in a trade. They have nobody of value that they’ll be looking to offload in a trade either. Port will be active in the free agent market and look likely to land Perryman, but other than that it’s probably a quiet offseason coming for them. Much quieter than ours needs to be.

I keep hearing the same things about Welsh. Many on hear have different views so I hope they are right. What's looking obvious is our first pick won't get eaten up in a bid like many suggested.

We have to pick the best player but it is super appealing to pick Draper as he is local.
 
They also had 11 players with 100+ games. We only have 8 such players on our entire list.

There has to be a balance, between experienced players and youth. You can have a relatively large number of youngsters (e.g. Collingwood's 6) of youngsters, if you have a sufficiently large cadre of veterans surrounding them. Adelaide no longer has a sufficiently large cadre of veterans - the inexperienced youngsters are surrounded by only marginally less inexperienced players in the 30-80 game range. The problem is only likely to get worse, when our "big 4" are gone (noting that 1 of them has already retired).

I'd argue that an arbitrary 100 games for gold class leadership is incorrect, at least at our club.
Our players over 100 games.

Walker
Smith
Sloane - retired
Laird
Crouch
Keays
Dawson
O'Brien
Murphy

Probably as much "natural" leadership in the below group as half of the 100 game group

Fog 89 games
Rankine 78
Hinge 53
Soligo 47
Murray 46
MM 32
 

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I'd argue that an arbitrary 100 games for gold class leadership is incorrect, at least at our club.
Our players over 100 games.

Walker
Smith
Sloane - retired
Laird
Crouch
Keays
Dawson
O'Brien
Murphy

Probably as much "natural" leadership in the below group as half of the 100 game group

Fog 89 games
Rankine 78
Hinge 53
Soligo 47
Murray 46
MM 32
Do not mistake talent for leadership... as many on this board often do.
 
WWT's Luke Beecken who the Crows have reportedly shown interest in re the MSD had a big game today in a losing team...28 disposals 16K 12 Hb 5 M's 4 i50's 8 r50's
Really liking what I’ve seen from him.

Also thinking wouldn’t it be very Crows if the guy they are really wanting to take whether that be a T.Murray, Beecken, McLennan or famine effected looking Vic Country 19 year old ect. gets selected by Brisbane with the pick they now have before the Crows due to jumping them on percentage after smashing West Coast…
 
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Welsh had 6 disposals, 5 score involvements and 3 goals. He isn't going to slide very far.
I'm not so sure. Welsh is a big bodied forward. He's a bit bigger and stronger than most of his peers. He might dominate against his own age group, but if he continues to struggle in the SANFL, there will be clubs that rightly question whether he can be a top level talent against people his own size.
I think he's going to be picked in the 20's.
 
I'm not so sure. Welsh is a big bodied forward. He's a bit bigger and stronger than most of his peers. He might dominate against his own age group, but if he continues to struggle in the SANFL, there will be clubs that rightly question whether he can be a top level talent against people his own size.
I think he's going to be picked in the 20's.
I see him as a Jake Stringer type forward not a KPF anyhow.

I reckon if he was playing for WWT's league team he'd look a whole lot better than playing with a Crows SANFL team this year half full of ammos most of whom can't hit a target by foot to save themselves. Tyler was pretty good yesterday considering there appears to be a focus for teammates to direct the ball towards the tall towers Charlie Nicholls, Tallan Rosenzweig and Noah Howes.

What I do like about Tyler is even when he's not getting the ball directed at him his workrate, chase, harass and defensive pressure is 1st class and with his tackling the oppo really know he means business.
 

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I see him as a Jake Stringer type forward not a KPF anyhow.

I reckon if he was playing for WWT's league team he'd look a whole lot better than playing with a Crows SANFL team this year half full of ammos most of whom can't hit a target by foot to save themselves. Tyler was pretty good yesterday considering there appears to be a focus for teammates to direct the ball towards the tall towers Charlie Nicholls, Tallan Rosenzweig and Noah Howes.

What I do like about Tyler is even when he's not getting the ball directed at him his workrate, chase, harass and defensive pressure is 1st class and with his tackling the oppo really know he means business.
That's encouraging to hear. Definitely wouldn't say this is the strong suit of our current key forwards in Tex, Fog or TT and I think it's something we really need. The absence of pressure from our key forwards means that we need to over-index on that from our smaller forwards and hence will pick one or two of McHenry, Murphy or Keays to be our effort/pressure forwards rather than a more creative and skilful player such as Pedlar or Taylor.
 
Final list of MSRD is in. 339 hopefuls LOL

TahjAbberleyBrisbane Lions (VFL)
OscarAdamsGlenelg (SANFL)
MalualAleerGippsland Power (Coates Talent League)
Sebastiano AmorosoBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
RiakAndrewDandenong Stingrays (Coates Talent League)
YuAshwinDoncaster
LukeBaileyCoburg (VFL)
JohnBakerSherwood Districts AFC
WilsonBarryCentral District
IsaacBarryOakleigh Chargers (Coates Talent League)
MaxBeattieEagles (SANFL)
ZacBeckerSturt
LukeBeeckenEagles (SANFL)
WilliamBellaCoburg (VFL)
EricBenningClaremont (WAFL)
KaneBevanWest Perth (WAFL)
TrentBiancoFootscray Bulldogs (VFL)
RileyBiceWerribee (VFL)
ThomasBlamiresSandringham (VFL)
JacobBlightPeel Thunder (WAFL)
DominicBrewWerribee (VFL)
RyanBrodieCalder Cannons (Coates Talent League)
HugoBromellCoburg (VFL)
PhilBrownWilliamstown
TylerBrown Box Hill Hawks (VFL)
LachlanBryceBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
ElijahBurrowsEast Fremantle (WAFL)
LachlanCaborSydney Swans (VFL)
NoahCachardPerth (WAFL)
EdwardCahillCarlton (VFL)
NedCahillCarlton (VFL)
JackCallinanCentral District
JacksonCallowNorwood (SANFL)
TajCampbell-farrellFrankston (VFL)
RyCantwellEastern Ranges (Coates Talent League)
JyeChalcraftSwan Districts (WAFL)
Michael CilmiPoint Cook
JackCleaverEast Fremantle (WAFL)
JackCockingEast Fremantle WAFL)
RileyCollier-Dawkins Williamstown (VFL)
OwenCollinsBrisbane Lions (VFL)
SamuelConfortiSturt
NathanCooperWerribee (VFL)
BillyCooteeNorwood (SANFL)
MarlinCorbettSubiaco (WAFL)
CooperCraig-PetersFootscray Bulldogs (VFL)
JesseCravenGippsland Power (Coates Talent League)
Darcy CravenEast Perth (WAFL)
JamesCreightonGWS Giants (VFL)
PaddyCrossCasey Demons (VFL)
AdamD'AloiaEagles (SANFL)
SamuelDavidsonRichmond (VFL)
Anthony Davis Claremont (WAFL)
BenDe BolfoBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
Kade De La RueNorth Melbourne (VFL)
AdamDeakinCentral District
KyeDeclaseWerribee (VFL)
KaiDehavillandClaremont (WAFL)
JoshuaDockingSandringham (VFL)
Boston DowlingCollingwood (VFL)
ArloDraperSouth Adelaide
ElliotDunkinSouth Adelaide
KyleDunkleyBrisbane Lions (VFL)
ChaddDunscombeEast Fremantle (WAFL)
BenEdwardsSydney Swans (VFL)
JeddEdwardsEast Perth (WAFL)
SaadEl-HawliNorthern Bullants (VFL)
CharlesElliottGold Coast Suns (VFL)
WilliamElliottNorthern Bullants (VFL)
CoreyEllisonWilliamstown (VFL)
MutazElnourRichmond (VFL)
CalebErnstCoburg (VFL)
JehiEslerGippsland Power
LoganEvansPort Adelaide (SANFL)
RyanEyreCalder Cannons (Coates Talent League)
AshtonFerreiraSouth Fremantle (WAFL)
BrodieFindlaySandringham Dragons (Coates Talent League)
KarlFinlayNorth Adelaide
FelixFlockartPort Melbourne (VFL)
MatthewFoleyEssendon (VFL)
Luke Foley Subiaco (WAFL)
ZacFootGold Coast Suns (VFL)
Harry FrancisGlenelg (SANFL)
NicholasFrancisGold Coast Suns (VFL)
JacobFrancisOld Scotch
WilliamFrancouNorth Adelaide
Joel Garner Richmond (VFL)
JakeGasperCentral District
DanielGauciGWS Giants (VFL)
FlynnGentileCoburg (VFL)
LiamGeorgeRichmond (VFL)
KhyGibbsSouth West Sydney Blues
Declan GladigauSturt
MalikGordonStrathfieldsaye Football Netball Club Inc.
BillyGowersPort Melbourne (VFL)
AidenGraceCentral District
TomGrahamEast Perth (WAFL)
SamGrantCoburg (VFL)
HarryGrantCentral District
AngusGrantFrankston (VFL)
CampbellGrayEssendon (VFL)
RileyGreeneBrisbane Lions (VFL)
MaxGregoryCasey Demons (VFL)
GeorgeGreyFrankston (VFL)
HarryGrintellWerribee (VFL)
LachlanGrubbNorth Adelaide
JedHaganEast Fremantle (WAFL)
LachlanHallGlenelg (SANFL)
MaxHallBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
HugoHall-KahanSandringham (VFL)
Josh Hamilton Northern Bullants (VFL)
TomHanilyGippsland Power (Coates Talent League)
Matthew HarmsGWS Giants (VFL)
JettHartmanMooroolbark
DaneHarveyCarlton (VFL)
Jackson HatelyEssendon (VFL)
NedHawkinsUNSW Eastern Suburbs Bulldogs
FinnHayPalm Beach Currumbin AFC
BillyHicksBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
AngusHicksWerribee (VFL)
Tom HighmorePort Melbourne (VFL)
DysonHilderNorth Adelaide
OscarHine-BastonPerth (WAFL)
DarbyHipwellSandringham (VFL)
WillHoareEssendon (VFL)
Thomas HofertPort Melbourne (VFL)
RileyHolderGlenelg (SANFL)
AlexHoltSturt
Ben HopkinsDandenong Stingrays (Coates Talent League)
MaxHoultSandringham Dragons
HarveyHoweCentral District
NoahHowesState Team - South Australia
LiamHudeBrisbane Lions (VFL)
PatrickHughesTorquay
Campbell HustwaiteCasey Demons (VFL)
JackHutchinsonCollingwood (VFL)
AlexanderJacobsNorthern Bullants (VFL)
Ben JepsonSouthport (VFL)
AustinJohnsonRichmond (VFL)
Matt Johnson Frankston (VFL)
GriffithJulianWest Perth (WAFL)
Deacon KalpakisCoburg (VFL)
Kim KantillaClaremont (WAFL)
Izayah KeanGlenelg (SANFL)
LukeKellySwan Districts (WAFL)
LukerKentfieldSubiaco (WAFL)
CooperKeoghCoburg (VFL)
LiamKershawGeelong Falcons (Coates Talent League)
OscarKregarWest Adelaide (SANFL)
AjangKuol MunAnakie Football Club
CampbellLakeSouthport (VFL)
Jy LambleyParkside
JettLatchfordRingwood
HarryLawsonRedan Football Netball Club (Ballarat Football League)
TylerLindbergEast Perth (WAFL)
MatthewLingNorwood (SANFL)
BrinnLittleCentral District
Jacob LohmannBrisbane Lions (VFL)
NedLongCollingwood (VFL)
JeddLongmireCollingwood (VFL)
Cooper Lord North Melbourne (VFL)
ArchieLovelockGlenelg (SANFL)
OliverLoweSandringham (VFL)
BaynenLoweNorwood (SANFL)
JordanLukacEagles (SANFL)
CooperMacDonaldCollingwood (VFL)
RemyMacleanEastern Ranges (Coates Talent League)
HarrisonMacreadieEast Perth (WAFL)
HenryMaerschelSturt
HarryMaguirePort Melbourne (VFL)
ZavierMaherCarlton (VFL)
JackManly Brisbane Lions (VFL)
ArchiMantonPort Melbourne (VFL)
Archi MantonPort Melbourne (VFL)
MaxMapleyClarence Football Club (TSL)
IsaiahMarkovskyOakleigh Chargers (Coates Talent League)
RhysMathiesonWilston Grange AFC
JaydenMatzCentral District
ArcherMayRichmond (VFL)
Lachie McArthurWestern Jets (Coates Talent League)
CooperMcClennanManly Warringah Wolves
RobbieMcCombPort Melbourne (VFL)
BradleyMcDonaldBrisbane Lions Academy
ConnorMcFadyenSturt
BillyMcGee GalimbertiSandringham (VFL)
LukeMckayEagles (SANFL)
SolomonMckayBendigo Pioneers
TomMcKenzieCoburg (VFL)
DanielMcKenziePort Melbourne (VFL)
Will Mclachlan Geelong Falcons (Coates Talent League)
BrodieMcLaughlinWilliamstown (VFL)
TobyMcleanOld Ivanhoe Grammarians
JezMcLennanCentral District
Liam McMahonCarlton (VFL/VFLW)
AndersMcShaneGlenelg (SANFL)
darcyMinchellaWest Adelaide (SANFL)
NicholasMinchinGeelong Cats (VFL)
PhillipMoimoiSydney Swans (VFL)
LachlanMonteathEssendon (VFL)
HarperMontgomeryGWS Giants (VFL)
RickyMontiEssendon (VFL)
JoshuaMorrisEagles (SANFL)
MilanMurdockEast Fremantle (WAFL)
CooperMurleyNorwood (SANFL)
ThomasMurphyFrankston (VFL)
TobynMurrayGeelong Cats (VFL)
TobyMurrayAdelaide Football Club
Amin NaimEssendon (VFL)
MatthewNelsonFrankston (VFL)
LukeNelsonCarlton (VFL)
Olivier Northam St Josephs (AFL Barwon FNL)
EdwinNyemboEast Keilor
CameronNykoMontmorency
BenO'BrienGold Coast Suns (VFL)
Finbar O'DwyerWilliamstown (VFL)
RoanO'HehirSouth Fremantle (WAFL)
TarkynO'LearySandringham (VFL)
Xavier O'NeillEssendon (VFL)
LukeParksWilliamstown (VFL)
JakePasiniSwan Districts (WAFL)
WillPattonWest Adelaide (SANFL)
JaelenPavlidisWerribee (VFL)
GeordiePayne North Launceston Football Club Inc
JyePeacockMooroolbark
OscarPearceOther
Rye PennyCollingwood (VFL)
FlynnPerezSturt
JackPerisEssendon (VFL)
BrodiePerryCaulfield Grammarians
Nathan PhilactidesBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
JoePikeGeelong Falcons (Coates Talent League)
LouisPinnuckWerribee (VFL)
HarrisonPodmore TaylorSydney University
OliverPooleBendigo Pioneers (Coates Talent League)
JackPoolePerth (WAFL)
CallumPorterBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
Nicholas QuiggGWS Giants (VFL)
HeathRamshawCarlton (VFL)
Lachlan RankinPort Melbourne (VFL)
Rhett MontgomerieRhettCentral District
OscaRiccardiGeelong Cats (VFL)
BillyRichardsonBrisbane Lions Academy
AidenRiddleClaremont (WAFL)
MaxRiderUNSW Eastern Suburbs Bulldogs
Benjamin RidgwayGlenelg (SANFL)
JackRidingWerribee (VFL)
Lewis RobbinsGippsland Power (Coates Talent League)
FraserRosman Port Melbourne (VFL)
James RoweEagles (SANFL)
TomRowlandCoburg (VFL)
MichaelRuddSt Marys (AFL Barwon FNL)
TreyRuscoeWest Coast Eagles (West Australian Football League (WAFL)
JoelRushGWS Giants (VFL)
KobeRyanWest Adelaide (SANFL)
Mitchell RyanSandringham (VFL)
KelseyRypstraNorth Adelaide
NickSadlerSturt
Koen Sanchez East Fremantle (WAFL)
Jack SaundersNorwood (SANFL)
GalenSavigniSubiaco (WAFL)
JasperScaifeWest Perth (WAFL)
MitchellSchofieldEast Perth (WAFL)
TajSchofieldSubiaco (WAFL)
KadenSchreiberBalwyn
NicholasSchroderSouth Adelaide
JontiSchubackSouth Adelaide
ElijahScoble Perth (WAFL)
BaileyScottEssendon (VFL)
AnthonySeatonSandringham (VFL)
MichaelSellwoodPeel Thunder (WAFL)
TylerSengeSubiaco (WAFL)
Liam SerongCoburg (VFL)
JackSextonSouthport (VFL)
MarcSheatherGWS Giants (VFL)
KobeShippCasey Demons (VFL)
LucaSladeSturt
OskarSmarttEssendon (VFL)
IliroSmitEastern Ranges (Coates Talent League)
JakeSmithWerribee (VFL)
RoarkeSmithPort Melbourne (VFL)
JakeSmithWerribee (VFL)
Evan Smith Swan Districts (WAFL)
Deakyn Smith North Melbourne (VFL)
SamSofronidisCollingwood (VFL)
Ryan Sparkes Collingwood (VFL)
PhoenixSpicerFootscray Bulldogs (VFL)
RoanSteeleCasey Demons (VFL)
Andreas Stefanakis Bendigo Pioneers
RyleyStoddartWilliamstown (VFL)
LachlanStreetRichmond (VFL)
Ryan SturgessCoburg (VFL)
HarrySullivanGold Coast Suns (VFL)
FrankSzekelyNorth Adelaide
CodySzustPort Adelaide (SANFL)
Mahmoud TahaEssendon (VFL)
BrynnTeakleEast Fremantle (WAFL)
BenjaminThomasBrisbane Lions (VFL)
GiacomoThomasEssendon Doutta Stars
BeauThomasCentral District
JonathanTomasielloCollingwood (VFL)
JackTonerWilliamstown (VFL)
DonovanTooheyCoburg (VFL)
JoshToveyBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
CooperTrembathEastern Ranges (Coates Talent League)
JakeTrembathBlackburn
OwenTurnerUNSW Eastern Suburbs Bulldogs
FraserTurner East Fremantle (WAFL)
Ryan Valentine Casey Demons (VFL)
Samuelvan RooyenClaremont (WAFL)
Alexvan WykNorwood (SANFL)
Jean-LucVelissarisNorthern Bullants (VFL)
CaseyVossSturt
lachlanVossSandringham Dragons (Coates Talent League)
TristenWaackNorthern Bullants (VFL)
JacobWagenknechtSubiaco (WAFL)
LaneWardBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
JackWatkinsNorth Melbourne (VFL)
BlakeWatsonSandringham (VFL)
TobeWatsonPort Melbourne (VFL)
TylarWattsGeelong West Giants (AFL Barwon FNL)
PatrickWeckertEagles (SANFL)
TomWheaton South Adelaide
DylanWhiteWest Adelaide (SANFL)
WillWhiteCarlton (VFL)
JordanWhiteWest Adelaide (SANFL)
MalachiWhiteNorth Ballarat Football Netball Club
CooperWhyteWerribee (VFL)
HarrisonWiggNorth Adelaide
EamonWilkinsonSouth Adelaide
NickWilliamsSouthport (VFL)
ZaneWilliamsEagles (SANFL)
RileyWillsPerth (WAFL)
LachlanWilsonRichmond (VFL)
IsiahWinderSouth Fremantle (WAFL)
KaiWindsorCasey Demons (VFL)
HughenWissmanNorth Adelaide
BoydWoodcockSouthport (VFL)
Cruz WoodleySwan Districts (WAFL)
MitchellZadowEast Fremantle (WAFL)

 
Final list of MSRD is in. 339 hopefuls LOL

TahjAbberleyBrisbane Lions (VFL)
OscarAdamsGlenelg (SANFL)
MalualAleerGippsland Power (Coates Talent League)
SebastianoAmorosoBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
RiakAndrewDandenong Stingrays (Coates Talent League)
YuAshwinDoncaster
LukeBaileyCoburg (VFL)
JohnBakerSherwood Districts AFC
WilsonBarryCentral District
IsaacBarryOakleigh Chargers (Coates Talent League)
MaxBeattieEagles (SANFL)
ZacBeckerSturt
LukeBeeckenEagles (SANFL)
WilliamBellaCoburg (VFL)
EricBenningClaremont (WAFL)
KaneBevanWest Perth (WAFL)
TrentBiancoFootscray Bulldogs (VFL)
RileyBiceWerribee (VFL)
ThomasBlamiresSandringham (VFL)
JacobBlightPeel Thunder (WAFL)
DominicBrewWerribee (VFL)
RyanBrodieCalder Cannons (Coates Talent League)
HugoBromellCoburg (VFL)
PhilBrownWilliamstown
TylerBrownBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
LachlanBryceBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
ElijahBurrowsEast Fremantle (WAFL)
LachlanCaborSydney Swans (VFL)
NoahCachardPerth (WAFL)
EdwardCahillCarlton (VFL)
NedCahillCarlton (VFL)
JackCallinanCentral District
JacksonCallowNorwood (SANFL)
TajCampbell-farrellFrankston (VFL)
RyCantwellEastern Ranges (Coates Talent League)
JyeChalcraftSwan Districts (WAFL)
MichaelCilmiPoint Cook
JackCleaverEast Fremantle (WAFL)
JackCockingEast Fremantle WAFL)
RileyCollier-DawkinsWilliamstown (VFL)
OwenCollinsBrisbane Lions (VFL)
SamuelConfortiSturt
NathanCooperWerribee (VFL)
BillyCooteeNorwood (SANFL)
MarlinCorbettSubiaco (WAFL)
CooperCraig-PetersFootscray Bulldogs (VFL)
JesseCravenGippsland Power (Coates Talent League)
DarcyCravenEast Perth (WAFL)
JamesCreightonGWS Giants (VFL)
PaddyCrossCasey Demons (VFL)
AdamD'AloiaEagles (SANFL)
SamuelDavidsonRichmond (VFL)
AnthonyDavisClaremont (WAFL)
BenDe BolfoBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
KadeDe La RueNorth Melbourne (VFL)
AdamDeakinCentral District
KyeDeclaseWerribee (VFL)
KaiDehavillandClaremont (WAFL)
JoshuaDockingSandringham (VFL)
BostonDowlingCollingwood (VFL)
ArloDraperSouth Adelaide
ElliotDunkinSouth Adelaide
KyleDunkleyBrisbane Lions (VFL)
ChaddDunscombeEast Fremantle (WAFL)
BenEdwardsSydney Swans (VFL)
JeddEdwardsEast Perth (WAFL)
SaadEl-HawliNorthern Bullants (VFL)
CharlesElliottGold Coast Suns (VFL)
WilliamElliottNorthern Bullants (VFL)
CoreyEllisonWilliamstown (VFL)
MutazElnourRichmond (VFL)
CalebErnstCoburg (VFL)
JehiEslerGippsland Power
LoganEvansPort Adelaide (SANFL)
RyanEyreCalder Cannons (Coates Talent League)
AshtonFerreiraSouth Fremantle (WAFL)
BrodieFindlaySandringham Dragons (Coates Talent League)
KarlFinlayNorth Adelaide
FelixFlockartPort Melbourne (VFL)
MatthewFoleyEssendon (VFL)
LukeFoleySubiaco (WAFL)
ZacFootGold Coast Suns (VFL)
HarryFrancisGlenelg (SANFL)
NicholasFrancisGold Coast Suns (VFL)
JacobFrancisOld Scotch
WilliamFrancouNorth Adelaide
JoelGarnerRichmond (VFL)
JakeGasperCentral District
DanielGauciGWS Giants (VFL)
FlynnGentileCoburg (VFL)
LiamGeorgeRichmond (VFL)
KhyGibbsSouth West Sydney Blues
DeclanGladigauSturt
MalikGordonStrathfieldsaye Football Netball Club Inc.
BillyGowersPort Melbourne (VFL)
AidenGraceCentral District
TomGrahamEast Perth (WAFL)
SamGrantCoburg (VFL)
HarryGrantCentral District
AngusGrantFrankston (VFL)
CampbellGrayEssendon (VFL)
RileyGreeneBrisbane Lions (VFL)
MaxGregoryCasey Demons (VFL)
GeorgeGreyFrankston (VFL)
HarryGrintellWerribee (VFL)
LachlanGrubbNorth Adelaide
JedHaganEast Fremantle (WAFL)
LachlanHallGlenelg (SANFL)
MaxHallBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
HugoHall-KahanSandringham (VFL)
JoshHamiltonNorthern Bullants (VFL)
TomHanilyGippsland Power (Coates Talent League)
MatthewHarmsGWS Giants (VFL)
JettHartmanMooroolbark
DaneHarveyCarlton (VFL)
JacksonHatelyEssendon (VFL)
NedHawkinsUNSW Eastern Suburbs Bulldogs
FinnHayPalm Beach Currumbin AFC
BillyHicksBox Hill Hawks (VFL)
AngusHicksWerribee (VFL)
TomHighmorePort Melbourne (VFL)
DysonHilderNorth Adelaide
OscarHine-BastonPerth (WAFL)
DarbyHipwellSandringham (VFL)
WillHoareEssendon (VFL)
ThomasHofertPort Melbourne (VFL)
RileyHolderGlenelg (SANFL)
AlexHoltSturt
BenHopkinsDandenong Stingrays (Coates Talent League)
MaxHoultSandringham Dragons
HarveyHoweCentral District
NoahHowesState Team - South Australia
LiamHudeBrisbane Lions (VFL)
PatrickHughesTorquay
CampbellHustwaiteCasey Demons (VFL)
JackHutchinsonCollingwood (VFL)
AlexanderJacobsNorthern Bullants (VFL)
BenJepsonSouthport (VFL)
AustinJohnsonRichmond (VFL)
MattJohnsonFrankston (VFL)
GriffithJulianWest Perth (WAFL)
DeaconKalpakisCoburg (VFL)
KimKantillaClaremont (WAFL)
IzayahKeanGlenelg (SANFL)
LukeKellySwan Districts (WAFL)
LukerKentfieldSubiaco (WAFL)
CooperKeoghCoburg (VFL)
LiamKershawGeelong Falcons (Coates Talent League)
OscarKregarWest Adelaide (SANFL)
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Ling and Cootee both strong chances to go from Norwood.
 
Are we going to go in with 1 pick only? Will Milera be moved to LTI list?
We'll know tomorrow Sloane, Parnell, Milera are 3 potential list spots


How many clubs have a pick? Why doesn't my club have one?​

Clubs must have a vacant list spot in order to take part and currently, only Geelong, Greater Western Sydney and Sydney are without potential vacant spots.

List vacancies can occur through a retirement or if a player suffers a long-term injury and is moved to the inactive list.

Brisbane (potentially four picks), and Richmond and Adelaide (potentially three each) are the clubs with the most vacant positions, while Carlton, Collingwood, North Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs all have two.

Essendon, Fremantle, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Melbourne, St Kilda and West Coast all have one open spot.

Clubs have until Tuesday to open a vacancy on their list so there might be more movement in the coming days.
 
We'll know tomorrow Sloane, Parnell, Milera are 3 potential list spots


How many clubs have a pick? Why doesn't my club have one?​

Clubs must have a vacant list spot in order to take part and currently, only Geelong, Greater Western Sydney and Sydney are without potential vacant spots.

List vacancies can occur through a retirement or if a player suffers a long-term injury and is moved to the inactive list.

Brisbane (potentially four picks), and Richmond and Adelaide (potentially three each) are the clubs with the most vacant positions, while Carlton, Collingwood, North Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs all have two.

Essendon, Fremantle, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Melbourne, St Kilda and West Coast all have one open spot.

Clubs have until Tuesday to open a vacancy on their list so there might be more movement in the coming days.
Surely we lose nothing by moving these guys to the LTI. That way we have the option of 3 picks if we deem it necessary, but don't have to use them if we don't want to.

I suspect we will use 1 pick only - probably Toby Murray. I hope we are a bit more adventurous than that though.
 
Surely we lose nothing by moving these guys to the LTI. That way we have the option of 3 picks if we deem it necessary, but don't have to use them if we don't want to.

I suspect we will use 1 pick only - probably Toby Murray. I hope we are a bit more adventurous than that though.
I think WWT running medium defender Luke Beecken who we've apparently been linked to as have several other clubs could be on our shopping list if still available at our pick. Parnell every chance to be delisted,uncertainty re Milera's injury comeback into the future and Smith nearing the end?
 
I think WWT running medium defender Luke Beecken who we've apparently been linked to as have several other clubs could be on our shopping list if still available at our pick. Parnell every chance to be delisted,uncertainty re Milera's injury comeback into the future and Smith nearing the end?
WCE apparently keen too, I guess we’d hope Richmond takes Blight with Tylar Young now injured, then Eagles take Hutchinson (also linked to them)
 
I think WWT running medium defender Luke Beecken who we've apparently been linked to as have several other clubs could be on our shopping list if still available at our pick. Parnell every chance to be delisted,uncertainty re Milera's injury comeback into the future and Smith nearing the end?
Good luck to him if we take him, but I’d rather be giving some games to Ryan instead before drafting someone else who plays that position.
 
Good luck to him if we take him, but I’d rather be giving some games to Ryan instead before drafting someone else who plays that position.
24 year old carving up the SANFL vs 18/19 year old . Ryan has plenty of time on his side.
 

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