MRP / Trib. 2024 MRP Lotto thread II

[Nate7]

Might pop over

Might? It's your civic duty!

 

[shinboner magic]

Might? It's your civic duty!

Ok I’ll bring the concrete boots to throw in off the pier

 

[JUST NORTH]

Webster's action was graded by match review officer Michael Christian as careless conduct, severe impact and high contact.

St Kilda's lawyer Adrian Anderson, the AFL's former football operations boss, noted any previous bans of four games or more had been classed as intentional rather than careless.

"What is proposed is a massive, sudden shift in sanction that is out of whack with the evolution over time," Anderson said.

"There is a very significant line between intentional and careless.

"(Gaff's hit on Brayshaw) is in a different category.

"It's not necessary to pick him (Webster) out and pick a sanction that is out of whack to get a message through."

the oxygen thief Christian did not make it easy for the prosecution with his grading of careless conduct, if i saw him in the street and cracked him in the head i wonder if he would deem my action to be careless?

 

[William Caresser]

That was clearly intentional from Webster. The split second argument is absolute rubbish.

 

[Sillygit]

but we find that he did form an intention, albeit at the last minute, to bump Simpkin.

i have been making jokes, but that's actaully f*cking insane.

then IT WAS INTENTIONAL. That's what the f*cking word means. He INTENDED to bump. So it should be graded AS THAT.

 

[Crow till I die]

Good news that the Tribunal is taking this sort of stuff seriously now and the rest of the league is on notice - you bump and hit the head and its lots of weeks - everyone is warned.

From the sounds of it, St Kilda have been keeping in touch with Simpkin as they should ad hopefully the lad is ok and has no lasting effects

 

[shintemaster]

The (very long) reasons for the seven-match ban via Chair Jeff Gleeson:

The rough conduct was extremely careless. Webster did not intend to commit a reportable offence, but we find that he did form an intention, albeit at the last minute, to bump Simpkin.



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I find this reasoning laughable. There is no doubt whatsoever that he intended to commit a reportable offence.

 

[Lomas]

As much as this bloke is a sh** campaigner, no one deserves to have their family bought into it.

Nah, they came in flying the flag.

 

[shinboner magic]

Good news that the Tribunal is taking this sort of stuff seriously now and the rest of the league is on notice - you bump and hit the head and its lots of weeks - everyone is warned.

From the sounds of it, St Kilda have been keeping in touch with Simpkin as they should ad hopefully the lad is ok and has no lasting effects

Till Bont , daicos ect do it

 

[Lomas]

Till Bont , daicos ect do it

We can’t control that, and there is no worth in borrowing trouble.

 

[Roostorm]

Well it looks like it may have hit hard home……..

 

[SammyRoo]

I think 7 is fair.

At the end of the day the action was still a “bump” …. Which is a footy action ( albeit horribly executed) . You could argue he had intent to do damage and maybe not knock him out? …. imo

8,10 weeks stuff should be for king-hits via behind the play punches , elbows etc ( eg plugger on Caven, Barry hall etc)

 

[Crow till I die]

Till Bont , daicos ect do it

Maybe not. I get the feeling they are genuine about it and it may be the lawyers dealing with the class action that have focussed their minds

 

[the big lebowski]

Well it looks like it may have hit hard home……..

Well said.

I think it’s best to move on from here.

 

[Roosurgence]

AFL360 is such a wankfest.

Sympathy for Jimmy ********** LOL

Is Cripps a moron? I feel sorry for him, he would have been taught that as a kid….. WTF!

Are kids being taught to hit a player in a vulnerable position late with the intention to cause harm?

Cripps said you are taught to play the man tough and hard, that action is not tough and hard, it’s actually weak and cowardly.

Probably speaks volumes of Cripps and matches the action he committed on Ah Chee. Loves the cheap snipe.

Respect Cripps for his toughness over the footy, but going by those comments and past actions has a bit of dirty prick about him.

 

[the big lebowski]

I don’t know why I do the s**t I do half the time.

Let alone a split second decision.

It was shocking bump. Deserved a massive suspension. Got a massive suspension.

Let’s worry about Jy now.

 

[krakouers]

Respect Cripps for his toughness over the footy, but going by those comments and past actions has a bit of dirty prick about him.

TBF any time I see a player in a Carltank top, I think that

 

[archerboy]

AFL360 is such a wankfest.

Sympathy for Jimmy ********** LOL

Is Cripps a moron? I feel sorry for hi. He would have been taught that as a kid….. WTF!

Are kids being taught to hit a player in a vulnerable position late with the intention to cause harm?

Cripps said you are taught to play the man tough and hard, that action is not tough and hard, it’s actually weak and cowardly.

Probably speaks volumes of Cripps and matches the action he committed on Ah Chee. Loves the cheap snipe.

Respect Cripps for his toughness over the footy, but going by those comments and past actions has a bit of dirty prick about him.

Bet he wasn’t saying that when ziebs ironed out that Carlton flog many moons ago

 

[RHLK]

'The St Kilda FC condemns the violent conduct of one of our players towards a fellow professional. It was clearly unacceptable, and we offer no defence.

St Kilda FC will not wait for an AFL response. We will show leadership on the issue of concussion.

Given our commitment to minimising the risk of player head injuries, as all of our players understand, the St Kilda FC will stand down player Webster for the rest of the season. A heavy penalty, weighed down by the fact this was a pre-season game.

Player Webster must undergo counselling, and possible gelding, depending how he responds to treatment, before again being given the privilege of earning a St Kilda jumper.'

Instead they tried to argue the penalty down.

 

[shinboner magic]

AFL360 is such a wankfest.

Sympathy for Jimmy ********** LOL

Is Cripps a moron? I feel sorry for him, he would have been taught that as a kid….. WTF!

Are kids being taught to hit a player in a vulnerable position late with the intention to cause harm?

Cripps said you are taught to play the man tough and hard, that action is not tough and hard, it’s actually weak and cowardly.

Probably speaks volumes of Cripps and matches the action he committed on Ah Chee. Loves the cheap snipe.

Respect Cripps for his toughness over the footy, but going by those comments and past actions has a bit of dirty prick about him.

Someone save that and when the next bluws player is sniped - it can be used as a defence

 

[Lomas]

I think 7 is fair.

At the end of the day the action was still a “bump” …. Which is a footy action ( albeit horribly executed) . You could argue he had intent to do damage and maybe not knock him out? …. imo

8,10 weeks stuff should be for king-hits via behind the play punches , elbows etc ( eg plugger on Caven, Barry hall etc)

In normal passages of play I’d agree, but he lined him up from a long way out, on the boundry. Weak as it comes.

 

[amaz199]

Yeah, yeah Jimmy you're 'sorry'.

We accept your apology... until round 8.

 

[Supreme_Chancellor]

Would like to have seen some acknowledgement of his siblings antics on Social Media, but I guess it will be swept under the rug.

 

[Frank Thring]

Well it looks like it may have hit hard home……..

Fair enough Jimmy. Now let's all move on

 

[The Anvil]

Webster's action was graded by match review officer Michael Christian as careless conduct, severe impact and high contact.

St Kilda's lawyer Adrian Anderson, the AFL's former football operations boss, noted any previous bans of four games or more had been classed as intentional rather than careless.

"What is proposed is a massive, sudden shift in sanction that is out of whack with the evolution over time," Anderson said.

"There is a very significant line between intentional and careless.

"(Gaff's hit on Brayshaw) is in a different category.

"It's not necessary to pick him (Webster) out and pick a sanction that is out of whack to get a message through."

the oxygen thief Christian did not make it easy for the prosecution with his grading of careless conduct, if i saw him in the street and cracked him in the head i wonder if he would deem my action to be careless?

Seeing it live, and then on replay, I have no idea how this couldn't be deemed intentional.