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[dus]

Current draft >>>>>> future draft - always pay more for known players

Touché. To be honest I’d forgotten what their deal even was.

We probably need 2 picks for our F1 given the available list spots.

 

[DuckYeah]

Keep 2 and just trade f1 for pick 11

How bout no

 

[shinboner magic]

How bout no

Yes we all have opinions and I’m hesitant to trade it but we need to get talls in

 

[pupstar]

How bout no

Would you trade it for G Train.

 

[LB2Snake]

Just think giving up 2 and the tigers losing 6 +20 is laughable.
Probably 6+20+24 for pick 2 or get rid of the 2 20s pick and give us 11
They aren’t giving up their f1 for anything

And yet our F1 is worth pick 15-16 to some(them)

I think 6+11 for 2 is right. But it’s the SUPA-DRAFT this year remember. So it “has to be 6+20, Next year’s F1 is useless”.
Even our F1 doesn’t allow 11 to be added back to us?
Ok, let’s swap F1’s with Richmond then. 6+20+Rich F1 for 2 and North’s F1……Doesn’t stack up to them as tigers supporters want to rip everyone’s head off. That’s cool, but we don’t have to play and agree.
It’s like pick 2 this year is useless in our hands and worth nothing, or it’s worth exactly the same as pick 6. Laughable.

I still think 6+11+20 for 2 and our F1 is pretty solid trading by both parties. We are giving up a lot more than Richmond IMO, but trying to bring our rebuild forward by a year. Could essentially be giving up 2+1/2/3/4 for 6+11+20, but that’s the risk with F1’s.
But again, somehow our F1 is rated as pick 15 or some sh!t.


Will get screamed down though in 3…………2………..1!

I’m happy for us to keep pick 2 and take one of the premier mids too BTW.

 

[shinboner magic]

And yet our F1 is worth pick 15-16 to some(them)

I think 6+11 for 2 is right. But it’s the SUPA-DRAFT this year remember. So it “has to be 6+20, Next year’s F1 is useless”.
Even our F1 doesn’t allow 11 to be added back to us?
Ok, let’s swap F1’s with Richmond then. 6+20+Rich F1 for 2 and North’s F1……Doesn’t stack up to them as tigers supporters want to rip everyone’s head off. That’s cool, but we don’t have to play and agree.
It’s like pick 2 this year is useless in our hands and worth nothing, or it’s worth exactly the same as pick 6. Laughable.

I still think 6+11+20 for 2 and our F1 is pretty solid trading by both parties. We are giving up a lot more than Richmond IMO, but trying to bring our rebuild forward by a year. Could essentially be giving up 2+1/2/3/4 for 6+11+20, but that’s the risk with F1’s.
But again, somehow our F1 is rated as pick 15 or some sh!t.


Will get screamed down though in 3…………2………..1!

I’m happy for us to keep pick 2 and take one of the premier mids too BTW.

I’d want their f2 pick in your last deal

I’d rather keep pick 2 if the tigers don’t want come to the party or trade with another team.
If aints want to offer 7+f1 for 2 - we should tell them go trade f1 for a mid teens pick this year.

 

[dus]

Would you trade it for G Train.

I would. We should get some change though.

 

[Masked Avenger]

I'm staying strong on this opinion till we take pick 2 on draft night:

This is what I think will happen.
Picks 6+11+20 for pick 2 and North's F1
Thinks that's a good deal all round, if you guy by the media and draft boards. Which I have for the sake of this exercise.
Risk and reward on both sides, but values our F1 around pick 14-15ish when you combine it back into parts of the 11+20

OR

6+20+RichF1 for 2 and our F1
F1's aren't worth anything in next year's draft, apparently.......so values pick 2 at a little over 6+20.
It's into next year which is worthless* because of this "supa-draft".

*apparently

Trading out two likely top 5 draft picks without getting one back borders on negligent.

Let's leave those days behind us.

 

[LB2Snake]

I’d want their f2 pick in your last deal

I’d rather keep pick 2 if the tigers don’t want come to the party or trade with another team.
If aints want to offer 7+f1 for 2 - we should tell them go trade f1 for a mid teens pick this year.

Saints could be trading 8 with GWS to do exactly that. 7+15 for 2, dunno…..means they’d slide from 8 to 16 but get pick 2. Possible. It’s a better deal for us than 6 and 20, which I think is rubbish.

 

[chickenonachain]

Trading out two likely top 5 draft picks without getting one back borders on negligent.

Let's leave those days behind us.

Exactly right there maté crazy to do that

 

[LB2Snake]

Trading out two likely top 5 draft picks without getting one back borders on negligent.

Let's leave those days behind us.

Hmmmmm. I agree, but I think it’s gunna be something like that Masked Avenger

It’s not gunna be 2 and our F2…..although it should be.

 

[LB2Snake]

Apparently there’s an article about to come out from zerohanger that it’s pick 2 and our F1 for 6+11 …….Now that would be sh!thouse.

 

[TREMBANYAMA]

Apparently there’s an article about to come out from zerohanger that it’s pick 2 and our F1 for 6+11 …….Now that would be sh!thouse.

lol that’s such a bad deal if true but it’ll be funny watching Brady apologists go wild

 

[shiraz]

but values our F1 around pick 14-15ish

Why on earth would we willingly lose an F1 for value of pick 14-15? If we do this, we lose, without question. We should not consider this under any circumstances. If the only option is do this, or to not trade, then we most certainly should not trade.

I get the feeling that some people are just creeping the deals in favour of Richmond just until reasonable judges say that Richmond might accept the deal, and declaring the deal fair based upon that. However, we shouldn't care if the deal is fair. We should care whether it benefits us. Contemplating trading F1 for value of pick 14-15 is evidence of a mindset which has forgotten to consider whether a potential deal benefits us.

There are plenty of situations in life where a deal which benefits both parties does not exist. It seems quite possible that us and Richmond this year is one of those situations.

 

[shinboner magic]

Apparently there’s an article about to come out from zerohanger that it’s pick 2 and our F1 for 6+11 …….Now that would be sh!thouse.

If that’s true - Brady is a double agent

 

[chickenonachain]

Apparently there’s an article about to come out from zerohanger that it’s pick 2 and our F1 for 6+11 …….Now that would be sh!thouse.

I got sucked in a couple of years ago when someone posted on here we were giving up 2/3 for something stupid. So in saying that if we do this deal I’m done

 

[Reagan Smash]

It’s Melbourne Cup week

The AFL ‘journos’ will write all sorts of horse manure to keep the clicks coming before the draft

 

[LB2Snake]

Why on earth would we willingly lose an F1 for value of pick 14-15? If we do this, we lose, without question. We should not consider this under any circumstances. If the only option is do this, or to not trade, then we most certainly should not trade.

I get the feeling that some people are just creeping the deals in favour of Richmond just until reasonable judges say that Richmond might accept the deal, and declaring the deal fair based upon that. However, we shouldn't care if the deal is fair. We should care whether it benefits us. Contemplating trading F1 for value of pick 14-15 is evidence of a mindset which has forgotten to consider whether a potential deal benefits us.

There are plenty of situations in life where a deal which benefits both parties does not exist. It seems quite possible that us and Richmond this year is one of those situations.

I don’t think we’d look at each pick number in direct isolation. It’s the grouping them together. I agree it’s a shocking deal, but not when combined to make what we might want to happen. The 3 players we are interested in might all be available at those picks, along with other options as plan B’s that we like.
There’s other worse deals rumoured to be happening too.

 

[DuckYeah]

Would you trade it for G Train.

I don’t like being stooged. I would take Gerreyn with 11. But i’d much rather grab a good small with it in 2025.

I still think Lalor fos smith and langford are great carrots for someone to cough up decent capital for pick 2.

 

[shiraz]

There’s other worse deals rumoured to be happening too.

There are, that's true. This is one of the worst years for absurd deals being proposed. Most of these absurd deals originate from outside affiliates/supporters of NMFC. My suggestion is that these proposals are being justified as "The minimum club X would require to do the deal that NMFC will do anything for". It's this second bit I'm trying to draw attention to. I'm not trying to have a go at you, or even the deal in the post I'm replying to. I'm trying to advocate against the view which is something like:

"We should canvas all clubs for the best deal so that we can bring in three talls and do it."

My contrary view is that if the best deal available to get three talls is not a deal which is good for NMFC, then we shouldn't do it.

 

[LB2Snake]

There are, that's true. This is one of the worst years for absurd deals being proposed. Most of these absurd deals originate from outside affiliates/supporters of NMFC. My suggestion is that these proposals are being justified as "The minimum club X would require to do the deal that NMFC will do anything for". It's this second bit I'm trying to draw attention to. I'm not trying to have a go at you, or even the deal in the post I'm replying to. I'm trying to advocate against the view which is something like:

"We should canvas all clubs for the best deal so that we can bring in three talls and do it."

My contrary view is that if the best deal available to get three talls is not a deal which is good for NMFC, then we shouldn't do it.

It’s pretty much one club saturating the narrative of what this draft depth is like. Gotta hand it to em, they are friggin relentless.
The interesting thing is pick 6 is now back to being mentioned, a lot…..it was “untouchable” less than 48 hours ago.
I seriously think they believe 6 and 20 is acceptable for pick 2, but others form other clubs also back them up. Talk about drowning in the Kool-Aid.
I think we will do a deal, if not already agreed in principle, for what I’ve already stated. Our F1 is the rabbit in someone’s hat though I reckon. It’s going as well.

 

[Boro]

I just hope we are patient. Tigers won’t want give up much until the Saints or Dees or whoever have a deal in place for 2…then they might realise they have to give up something that is a win win, rather than an absolute pilfering

 

[Kangas_11]

C4[2]Yo`DooR says tigers don’t want to trade 6 or 24

And Port would get 10

Can't see that trade getting done then tbh.

Funny that the rhetoric around this potential trade is that Richmond won't trade 6 and Port must get pick 10, whereas the team with the most valuable asset in pick 2 should just take what they can get.

 

[LB2Snake]

Can't see that trade getting done then tbh.

Funny that the rhetoric around this potential trade is that Richmond won't trade 6 and Port must get pick 10, whereas the team with the most valuable asset in pick 2 should just take what they can get.

Don’t try using logic Kangas_11 …….for weeks now pick number 2 is the same as pick 6 ….they’ll probably get the guy they always wanted at 6 anyway ..because, reasons
Our F1 is now worth pick 15-16, while theirs is untouchable
If we don’t trade pick 2 and keep it we are imploding too

Always back self interest, at least you know it’s trying.

 

[Lomas]

My preferences are still Shanahan, Gerreyn and Armstrong (if available)

Gerreyn not just as a big key forward but also his tap work in the ruck is class.

I'm still a little stunned that the big guys ranked so highly in the agilty test