Preview 2024 Rd 8 Carlton v Collingwood Friday 3 May 7.40PM AEST @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …

Welcome back Cez

4 changes

IN: Adam Cerra, Alex Cincotta, David Cuningham

28

David Cuningham

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.5

3star

D

12.1

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

5.6

5star

G

0.4

3star

, Orazio Fantasia

14

Orazio Fantasia

Age

28

Ht

180cm

Wt

73kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.1

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

9.8

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

2star

G

0.2

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.0

1star

OUT: Jaxon Binns, Jack Carroll, Ollie Hollands, Brodie Kemp

AFL team news: Four changes for Friday night

Adam Cerra returns as one of four changes to the Carlton line-up for Round 8.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Round 8 team v Collingwood
Backs:	Zac Williams	Lewis Young	Lachie Cowan
Half-backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Nic Newman
Centreline:	David Cuningham	Patrick Cripps	Blake Acres
Half-forwards:	Matthew Cottrell	Harry McKay	Elijah Hollands
Forwards:	Matthew Owies	Charlie Curnow	Tom De Koning
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Sam Walsh	George Hewett
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Adam Cerra	Corey Durdin
	Orazio Fantasia	Matthew Kennedy
Emergencies:	Jack Carroll	Ollie Hollands	Brodie Kemp

 

[Big Fry]

There’s probably a better chance of Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

winning a Brownlow, but…

Does anyone have 2-3 tickets for the game? I’m willing to part with my first born

 

[SurreyBlue]

We laid 24 tackles inside 50. What do you mean by “not pressuring”?

There is the 'team' press and there are tackles. 3 of our 4 small forwards laid 2 or less tackles. TdK & Harry laid more tackles and won more ground ball - there is the issue!!!

 

[Arr0w]

Player	T	Ti50	PA	DHPA	S	CDOOO	CDL	CDL%
2Matthew Kennedy	9	4	26	6	0	0	0	0
6Patrick Cripps	6	3	22	6	0	0	0	0
6Charlie Curnow	3	3	6	1	3	0	0	0
6Harry McKay	5	3	16	1	0	0	0	0
19Elijah Hollands	3	2	10	5	0	0	0	0
19Sam Walsh	7	2	17	4	0	0	0	0
49Jaxon Binns	1	1	4	1	0	0	0	0
49Jack Carroll	1	1	7	1	0	0	0	0
49Matthew Cottrell	1	1	9	2	0	0	0	0
49Corey Durdin	1	1	6	1	0	0	0	0
49George Hewett	6	1	28	11	0	0	0	0
49Oliver Hollands	2	1	13	6	0	0	0	0
49Matthew Owies	2	1

 

[Coops93]

Disappointing numbers from Durdin, pressure is supposed to be his no.1 attribute.

 

[Blue since 72]

Don’t disagree, that’s why I’d drop Owies, but I asked what can we do to fix our defensive issues?

What changes need to be made this week?

Improving disposal by foot would be a good start, the number of turnovers we gave Geelong due to poor kicking was terrible. If you're going to have a hard press into our forward half you'd better make damn sure you hit targets otherwise you're ****ed on rebound.

Once again we were guilty of a lot of shallow entries into our F50 which makes it a lot easier for the opposition to rebound quickly if the ball comes to ground which it did (due in part to s**t delivery). Nothing more scary for a defender than deep entries into their D50. Lower the eyes a bit further out and get that last kick forward deep instead bombing it from the wing and the ball drop landing at the 45/50 metre mark.

For the back six it is what it is at the moment with key players out. I'd like to see Durdin come in for Young if he's ready, Young is too easily out manoeuvred and out muscled and looks scared to kick it.

Overall for me it needs to tighten up further up the ground, best back six in the comp wouldn't have been able to defend a lot of the turnovers we gave Geelong.

 

[AB_Blue]

Wouldn't mind that, Williams had 5 ground ball gets and 18 pressure acts against the Cats... more than Durdin and Owies combined...

We def need something different up forward and Williams could give some x factor.

Been saying this since last year

With Cinc, Boyd Saad Newman we are well stocked for HBFs

He has X factor send him forward


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[Arr0w]

When Saad and Gov return, I would push Boyd forward

Just imagine him kicking inside 50 and or having a shot inside the arc

 

[AB_Blue]

When Saad and Gov return, I would push Boyd forward

Just imagine him kicking inside 50 and or having a shot inside the arc

Who’s the better defender..Boyd or Williams ?


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[BLUEALLTHRU]

When Saad and Gov return, I would push Boyd forward

Just imagine him kicking inside 50 and or having a shot inside the arc

Yep good kick and would add ferocity inside the 50M.

 

[tommy43]

Haven't read the whole thread so apologies if I'm rehashing stuff here.

It is clear we are missing Gov and Saad. They are both quality ball users and that's where we're missing them the most IMHO. Young who has come in for Gov, is an average ball user and is quite slow to move the ball. Gov on the other hand is always looking to get the ball moving and get it into a dangerous position for us. Cowan has come in for Saad.

I love his hardness and his passion but he lacks the composure Saad has with ball in hand and its hurting us. With that, I would be loathe to move Zac W further up the field as he is needed down back. When those two are back, def something to consider.

I actually thought Zac W was much better in the last quarter. Maybe that whack he copped just before 3 qtr time woke him up. No question, he was beyond poor before that. Being outbodied by players much smaller than him in particular. With that if and only if (as I know very little about him), I'd consider bringing in Billy Wilson in place of Cowan if he is more composed with ball in hand. Maybe those who have watched him closely can shed some light on that?

Cerra back will help though I think pre injury he has been down on last years output. Not exactly a like for like, but would drop Ollie. Love what he produced last year. I know he runs hard and pushed back defensively when others don't, but footy is a brutal business and the brutal fact is he has been mostly poor this year. Has not found anywhere near enough of the footy and his kicking has not been up to standard.

I'd like to see him have a good block in the VFL where he can find the footy more and with a bit more time and space, use it better. Build his confidence and come back into the senior team in the 2nd half of the season a much better player.

Up forward we are way too Charlie and Harry focussed. They've both been great but we need to find other avenues to goal. Several times last week we went to Charlie when he had 2 or 3 on him rather than looking for a better option.

Our smalls may provide decent defensive pressure but none of them hit the scoreboard enough. As great as our mids are, they are not noted goalkickers either. Jesse is far and away our best crumbing forward but unfortunately is still a fair way away. Given all that, I'd look at Ashto Moir in the not too distant future. He may not get a lot of it, but he impacts the scoreboard.

Is meant to be good in the air, has pace so should be able to get separation and can get it on the deck. A bit of hybrid forward like Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

who is always injured. Not opposed to Charlie playing higher up the ground but he needs to work on his defensive efforts.

This bobbing your head up and down pretending you're chasing hard when you're clearly not is shitting me. H was criticised for his defensive efforts 2 or 3 years ago. He has worked on it and is much better now. Charlie needs to get better cos he'll cost us on the scoreboard further up the field if he continues to apply little or no pressure.

Anyway, we should win this week.

The pies are just going but they are dangerous so we need to defend the transition a lot better than we have been, move it out of defense better than we have been and look for better forward 50 options.

Goes without saying our conversion needs to improve too.

 

[xDQ82x]

Hoping they do a lot of goal kicking this week at training

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Perhaps Zac shines best when we have our solid experienced defenders in place.

probably! So what do you do when they aren't in place? Cop that he's been defending horribly or drop him for a tougher defender (Cincotta) until the troops that let him shine are back?

 

[myblueroan]

probably! So what do you do when they aren't in place? Cop that he's been defending horribly or drop him for a tougher defender (Cincotta) until the troops that let him shine are back?

Exactly! This is why we have coaches.

 

[JustaBattler]

Player	T	Ti50	PA	DHPA	S	CDOOO	CDL	CDL%
2Matthew Kennedy	9	4	26	6	0	0	0	0
6Patrick Cripps	6	3	22	6	0	0	0	0
6Charlie Curnow	3	3	6	1	3	0	0	0
6Harry McKay	5	3	16	1	0	0	0	0
19Elijah Hollands	3	2	10	5	0	0	0	0
19Sam Walsh	7	2	17	4	0	0	0	0
49Jaxon Binns	1	1	4	1	0	0	0	0
49Jack Carroll	1	1	7	1	0	0	0	0
49Matthew Cottrell	1	1	9	2	0	0	0	0
49Corey Durdin	1	1	6	1	0	0	0	0
49George Hewett	6	1	28	11	0	0	0	0
49Oliver Hollands	2	1	13	6	0	0	0	0
49Matthew Owies	2	1

Mate - can yoiu do me a favour and explain what the headings are?

 

[Arr0w]

Mate - can yoiu do me a favour and explain what the headings are?

Tackles
Inside 50 tackles
Pressure acts
Defensive pressure acts
Spoils
Contested one on one
Contested losses

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[Arr0w]

Who’s the better defender..Boyd or Williams ?


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I think Williams is fine surrounded by Saad and Gov, but I believe Boyd is the better defender. Also think he would be the better forward

Yep good kick and would add ferocity inside the 50M.

Yeap

 

[Soapy V]

Been saying this since last year

With Cinc, Boyd Saad Newman we are well stocked for HBFs

He has X factor send him forward

Does he? I don't see it

 

[BM123]

We had 66 inside 50's but Durdin and Owies combined only had 2 tackles inside 50?

I don't even know what to say or think of that to be honest.....

 

[JustaBattler]

We had 66 inside 50's but Durdin and Owies combined only had 2 tackles inside 50?

I don't even know what to say or think of that to be honest.....

You can relax - I'm sure Vossty will have PLENTY to say about it.

 

[JustaBattler]

Tackles
Inside 50 tackles
Pressure acts
Defensive pressure acts
Spoils
Contested one on one
Contested losses

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and that was a quiet game for Kennedy - but hey drop him cos he sloooooow

 

[Blue since 72]

We had 66 inside 50's but Durdin and Owies combined only had 2 tackles inside 50?

I don't even know what to say or think of that to be honest.....

Poor entries (ie too shallow) and poor positioning.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

We had 66 inside 50's but Durdin and Owies combined only had 2 tackles inside 50?

I don't even know what to say or think of that to be honest.....

66 inside 50s and not a single crumbed goal between them. Genuinely nuts that some posters think we don't need to upgrade our smalls.

They are crumbing to the best KPF pairing in the comp and still can't get a sniff. Shocking.

 

[ferrisb]

Young will need to play next week against Cox

So far this year Cox has been about as useful as an honesty jar at The Hangar...

 

[Blue_Fusion]

66 inside 50s and not a single crumbed goal between them. Genuinely nuts that some posters think we don't need to upgrade our smalls.

They are crumbing to the best KPF pairing in the comp and still can't get a sniff. Shocking.

It gets better... only one f50 ground ball get between them...

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Young will need to play next week against Cox

Can't we bring Sam Durdin in for that?