List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[jwikked]

I'm looking forward to Ross' response tonight.

As much as I love Ross, his response won’t be anything. Deflect and asking rhetorical questions will be all he does, rather than directly addressing it.

It’s frustrating stuff at times

 

[jwikked]

so nothing the club does now is good enough?

I’ll start to trust them when they start to prove me wrong

 

[CaptainRisky]

But the thing is, we try to...but even our own supporters aren't happy because "were doing it wrong" apparently....nothing is ever good enough

You seriously cant sit there and say we have got too many things right , and I'm not just talking since 2010 , it goes back way further than that , at least they got the Disco right after Moorabbin games

 

[botts]

Hopefully we get something a little more concrete in regards to nas from Ross tonight.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Hopefully we get something a little more concrete in regards to nas from Ross tonight.

Well it is Tuesday

 

[kernelT]

Hopefully we get something a little more concrete in regards to nas from Ross tonight.

He won't say he's leaving before the final game though.

 

[sauce_head]

Oh f-ck i have heard it all now , Want to give me one , just one serious reason why people want us to be irrelevant , no not just made up stuff or thoughts that are in your head , what do the AFL have to gain by making us irrelevant .
Do you think they want us out the league so they can pump 50mil a year into a Darwin or Canberra team each year .
Sorry if i sounded harsh but the amount of poor us , everyone is against us Bla Bla Bla is constant on here, sooner or later the Rose coloured glasses brigade need to remember that it is mainly the clubs doing where we are at now and stop blaming others and before others come at me and say I'm not a supporter because i disagree with a some of the things that the club has done over the years i have still supported this club for 50 years

One reason? I’ll give you three:
1. Because if we are atop the ladder and have to play the marquee slots TV audiences will be lower than if it is, say, Cartlon or Essendon are atop instead.

2. Because if we are atop and our games are at Marvel the crowds are Les than if an Mcg club is top.

3. If we are atop rather than, say Gold Coast, then the game will be growing less in expansion markets requiring further AFL money in those states and or meaning the return in money invested is less.

All of those go to executive bonuses. Now whether or not there is a concerted effort to keep us down or not is another matter, but those are just some reasons.

 

[CaptainRisky]

I'm looking forward to Ross' response tonight.

Do you really think Ross will give an honest answer or will he get all cryptic and talk in riddles as per normal ? This is a serious question

 

[heynow85]

Hopefully we get something a little more concrete in regards to nas from Ross tonight.

Where is Ross tonight?

 

[sauce_head]

Do you really think Ross will give an honest answer or will he get all cryptic and talk in riddles as per normal ? This is a serious question

Why would he give any information about Wilkie supposedly being upset in a public forum. He will rightly just say he hasn’t heard that and all performances and expiring contracts are subject to periodic review, as is the list structure.

Anything more would send nitwits delirious with determination to over react to clickbait articles. It really doesn’t take much to convince some people to tear each other apart.

Don’t feed the troll!

 

[mighty_sainters]

Training on today?

 

[Saints43]

Just offer that Reid money to nas. He’s a better player

You realise Tim Watson just made up the Reid offer, yeah?
He's got a morning of calls to generate.

 

[dudeintheswamp]

Where is Ross tonight?

Someone said he's on Footy Classified tonight

 

[jwikked]

One reason? I’ll give you three:
1. Because if we are atop the ladder and have to play the marquee slots TV audiences will be lower than if it is, say, Cartlon or Essendon are atop instead.

2. Because if we are atop and our games are at Marvel the crowds are Les than if an Mcg club is top.

3. If we are atop rather than, say Gold Coast, then the game will be growing less in expansion markets requiring further AFL money in those states and or meaning the return in money invested is less.

All of those go to executive bonuses. Now whether or not there is a concerted effort to keep us down or not is another matter, but those are just some reasons.

When why haven’t Essendon and Carlton been given unfair advantages in order to kick start their rebuilds? They’ve been worse than St Kilda has been.

None of those 3 mean anything. The AFL isn’t trying to hold St Kilda down, we are doing it to ourselves. The AFL wants every team to have their moment in the sun.

 

[SainterinSydney]

I don’t think Wilkie aired this, and I suspect he wouldn’t be very happy that it got out. For him to air his grievances to his manager is normal, and all players would do it.

I’d say the manager is the one who leaked this.

I keep picturing Wilkie's manager like this:

"I can't divulge my client's secret distaste for SOS and everything he stands for"

 

[SaintlyHymns]

Do you think the Melbourne win was a literal deal with the devil?

"We'll give you this meaningless midseason win to plant false hope in the future of the club, but in exchange we rip you apart from the inside a month later"

 

[sauce_head]

When why haven’t Essendon and Carlton been given unfair advantages in order to kick start their rebuilds? They’ve been worse than St Kilda has been.

None of those 3 mean anything. The AFL isn’t trying to hold St Kilda down, we are doing it to ourselves. The AFL wants every team to have their moment in the sun.

Yes, everything is so equal with the AFL and their treatment of teams. Just look at the stadium deals for one thing. Essendon literally have written into their Docklands contract that they have to have the most favourable deal. They own the merch shop there that you purchase saints stuff from. They are repeatedly given so called blockbusters at the MCG that they make hundreds of thousands of dollars more than a game at Docklands. Something crazy like 70% or our match day profits come from our one or two MCG matches.

The academy picks and father sons that naturally advantage historically better clubs are entirely disproportionate and unfair, yet nothing has been done about it because it expands the interstate market and increases the likelihood that big clubs climb back up the ladder.

If all of this means nothing then nothing means anything.

 

[CaptainRisky]

One reason? I’ll give you three:
1. Because if we are atop the ladder and have to play the marquee slots TV audiences will be lower than if it is, say, Cartlon or Essendon are atop instead.

2. Because if we are atop and our games are at Marvel the crowds are Les than if an Mcg club is top.

3. If we are atop rather than, say Gold Coast, then the game will be growing less in expansion markets requiring further AFL money in those states and or meaning the return in money invested is less.

All of those go to executive bonuses. Now whether or not there is a concerted effort to keep us down or not is another matter, but those are just some reasons.

Ok mate

 

[UnfinishedBusiness]

Ok boys and girls, today is my birthday AND it’s a Tuesday… Ross on Footy Classified… surely the stars are aligning to have Nas sign four years today. After all, today is the 12th of the 8th and 12-8 =4 MORE YEARS

(Spending my birthday refreshing this thread only to be disappointed, that’s so St Kilda…)

 

[jwikked]

Yes, everything is so equal with the AFL and their treatment of teams. Just look at the stadium deals for one thing. Essendon literally have written into their Docklands contract that they have to have the most favourable deal. They own the merch shop there that you purchase saints stuff from. They are repeatedly given so called blockbusters at the MCG that they make hundreds of thousands of dollars more than a game at Docklands. Something crazy like 70% or our match day profits come from our one or two MCG matches.

The academy picks and father sons that naturally advantage historically better clubs are entirely disproportionate and unfair, yet nothing has been done about it because it expands the interstate market and increases the likelihood that big clubs climb back up the ladder.

If all of this means nothing then nothing means anything.

It does all mean nothing, given the equalization measures. That’s why St Kilda gets a larger share of money from the AFL, to make up for stadium differentials.

 

[dudeintheswamp]

Ok boys and girls, today is my birthday AND it’s a Tuesday… Ross on Footy Classified… surely the stars are aligning to have Nas sign four years today. After all, today is the 12th of the 8th and 12-8 =4 MORE YEARS

(Spending my birthday refreshing this thread only to be disappointed, that’s so St Kilda…)

Happy birthday!

And now that you mention it, yes the planets are aligning...

The 'Planet Parade' Is Back—Now, With An Extra Planet

Where to see this cool cosmic event

www.elle.com.au

 

[Diehard Saint]

Batten down the hatches boys - we’re under siege today!

 

[Diehard Saint]

So we think Wilkie and the other players all have an idea of what is happening with details of the NAS, Windy deals?
I don’t.

Honestly, piss right off Young Gun #6 - done with your stupid sarcastic laughing emojis.
Reported.
StFly

 

[True Believer]

The AFL wants every team to have their moment in the sun.

hahaha........

That's cute...........

 

[Veer Right]

If all of this means nothing then nothing means anything.