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I'm not sure that's going to help. He's an expert at saying clearly concussed players are good to go. He's never yet said that a fit player was injured.
It was a concussion joke. ;)
 

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I don't think he should be a leader.

Not sure he is out of form. We haven't even had a preseason game yet. He finished 2024 well and has played 84 of the last 90 crows games.



Huh?



At practice. Don't make me quote Allan Iverson.
He wasn’t in form last year, he was dropped not after one poor game. He didn’t make the top 10 of our B&F for what the third year running? A better back up ruck and he would have played less, but we’ve got Strachan.

How many times has a player had a poor preseason and followed by a poor season or a great preseason followed by a good season?

Yes at practice, multiple practice sessions, during match sims, beaten by a SANFL ruckman after a poor year. With no decent back up. Yep no issue.

I’d also be concerned you were on the wrong track when you’ve got Mostyn agreeing with you, next it will be Wayne ;)
 
He was also dropped in 2022, then played a ripper against Geelong before going downhill again.

He can’t jump, he can’t mark, he can’t kick. He can sometimes tap the ball.

You may as well stop arguing the point, their only response from here is "ruck is the least important position on the field" and you better believe, when backed into a corner, no matter how hard they've defended said ruckman, they will use it.
 
You may as well stop arguing the point, their only response from here is "ruck is the least important position on the field" and you better believe, when backed into a corner, no matter how hard they've defended said ruckman, they will use it.
Dont think ive ever used that.

But when your only opposition in the squad is worse than you, by a margin.... you can slack off.
 
Its only a non-issue in yours and one or 2 others heads

The rest of us see the gaping hole - one which was acknowledged by the club - and hope it is fixed soon
It's Schrödinger's ruck problem.

It's both not a problem while ROB is fit and an actual problem while ROB is not fit.


So the solution is obviously never to look at ROB and definitely make sure anyone with a medical degree doesn't go near him, so then it's both, which we can live with for now.


Actually isn't ROB studying medicine? That would mean if he observes himself, we're getting all Einsteinian and he might just invent time travel.
 
He wasn’t in form last year, he was dropped not after one poor game. He didn’t make the top 10 of our B&F for what the third year running?

Nor should he. 5 of the 8 finalists didn't have a ruckman in their top 10. (Hawthorn, Geelong, Port, GWS, Bulldogs)

Brisbane - Big O finished equal 10th in theirs.
Carlton - De Koning came 7th
Sydney - Grundy was 4th.

A better back up ruck and he would have played less, but we’ve got Strachan.

How many times has a player had a poor preseason and followed by a poor season or a great preseason followed by a good season?

Yes at practice, multiple practice sessions, during match sims, beaten by a SANFL ruckman after a poor year. With no decent back up. Yep no issue.

From all reports ROB dominated Sweet in the ruck. Maybe reports of his bad preseason are greatly exaggerated.

I’d also be concerned you were on the wrong track when you’ve got Mostyn agreeing with you, next it will be Wayne ;)

Just like Matty Nicks - you have to be able to acknowledge that they sometimes get it right.
 
Nor should he. 5 of the 8 finalists didn't have a ruckman in their top 10. (Hawthorn, Geelong, Port, GWS, Bulldogs)

Brisbane - Big O finished equal 10th in theirs.
Carlton - De Koning came 7th
Sydney - Grundy was 4th.



From all reports ROB dominated Sweet in the ruck. Maybe reports of his bad preseason are greatly exaggerated.



Just like Matty Nicks - you have to be able to acknowledge that they sometimes get it right.
We aren’t a finalist team ;) Finished 15th didn’t we? Not as much competition to finish top 10 in a bottom team. Any of those finalists drop their ruckman?

Dominate is a strong word, plus it was only a practice game ;)

Mostyn? Nah.
 

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We aren’t a finalist team ;) Finished 15th didn’t we?

But we want to be one. Thats why I am happy we have the list strategy towards ruckman as the reigning premiers.

I am also glad we aren't the Bulldogs. Imagine your melts if we were in their position. They have one ruckman - English who is struggling with an abdominal injury and their only other ruckman is 19 year old. They have a list spot open and didn't pick up Crossley or McAndrew!

Not as much competition to finish top 10 in a bottom team. Any of those finalists drop their ruckman?

Port did. And they replaced him with the guy that ROB just smoked.
 
But we want to be one. Thats why I am happy we have the list strategy towards ruckman as the reigning premiers.

I am also glad we aren't the Bulldogs. Imagine your melts if we were in their position. They have one ruckman - English who is struggling with an abdominal injury and their only other ruckman is 19 year old. They have a list spot open and didn't pick up Crossley or McAndrew!



Port did. And they replaced him with the guy that ROB just smoked.
Want to be v what happened when we weren’t. Surely you can appreciate that finishing top 10 in a finalist is harder to do than finishing top 10 in a bottom team and ROB hasn’t done it for 3 years.

Bulldogs do do some strange things.

Soldo got injured, replaced by Sweet who performed and kept Soldo out who also was injured again. Soldo wanted out and no one wanted him, that says it all.

Smoked? And in a practise game mind you. Last time they played in a real game, no smoking.
 
But we want to be one. Thats why I am happy we have the list strategy towards ruckman as the reigning premiers.
And if the reigning premiers strategy was to eat a shit sandwich each day you would be chowing down

This is the classic club fanboi response '' I trust the club to do the right thing and if it means pivoting 180 degrees then I am ok with that ''
 
And if the reigning premiers strategy was to eat a shit sandwich each day you would be chowing down

Absolutely!

This is the classic club fanboi response '' I trust the club to do the right thing and if it means pivoting 180 degrees then I am ok with that ''

Huh? I have been plenty critical about Nicks and the club old son.

Our ruck situation is identical to Brisbane's with the only real difference being that it was Strachan who had the stress fracture and not Darcy Fort.
 

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Carlton vs St Kilda match simulation: Harry Boyd, Hugh Boxshall star in Saints win
First-year Saints
Harry Boyd and Hugh Boxshall could be round 1 bolters and No. 10 draft pick Tobie Travaglia staked his claim for an early AFL debut
We should have engineered a pick to have snaffled Harry Boyd. That is a bad miss imo for us
 
We should have engineered a pick to have snaffled Harry Boyd. That is a bad miss imo for us
He'd certainly be better AFL back up than Strachan but we need to recruit a ruck that can lead our ruck division for the long term and we either draft a young ruck in this years draft to develop for the future, either that or re-tool Toby Murray as our lead ruckman in the SANFL even when Strachan is fit because surely he's not getting another contract?
 

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