List Mgmt. 2025 Premiership(s) List Making and Trading

[Kane McGoodwin]

What i think he means is that its not much point looking at the 2nd tier.

Burgess is almost as good as their is

We need to building AFL depth, rather than worrying about our SANFL team.

 

[Cromulant]

We need to building AFL depth, rather than worrying about out SANFL team.

Im with you on that, hence why we need to look for our next Tex, rather than any depth

 

[crows dude]

Are we trying to win sanfl or afl games?

Burgess is as good as it gets if you are looking for a kpf from vfl or SANFL. Which was what I was referring to.

 

[crows dude]

We need to building AFL depth, rather than worrying about our SANFL team.

Absolutely but you are not going to find a ready made Tex in sanfl or vfl

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Absolutely but you are not going to find a ready made Tex in sanfl or vfl

Indeed.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

How is Kaidean Coleman going?

ACL then I think missed a fair bit of footy this season with a quad. Has a lengthy deal but maybe some players have gone past him in his absence?

 

[Syd Crow]

Absolutely but you are not going to find a ready made Tex in sanfl or vfl

No that is true, but what gets my goat is that we recruit players then play them out of position in terms of where they played to catch the eye of recruiters at SANFL level. Then we are surprised that the budding future AFL midfielder is not a great small forward.

 

[LoBu]

No that is true, but what gets my goat is that we recruit players then play them out of position in terms of where they played to catch the eye of recruiters at SANFL level. Then we are surprised that the budding future AFL midfielder is not a great small forward.

Very true, but my thinking is that these players are determined not to be good enough to make the midfield, through data, training, simulations, etc, and pretty much pegged for the half forward or back line to either make it there or not at all.
Like Edwards moving back this year, it's like they have determined he's not good enough too play midfield so don't even bother at SANFL.

 

[Syd Crow]

Very true, but my thinking is that these players are determined not to be good enough to make the midfield, through data, training, simulations, etc, and pretty much pegged for the half forward or back line to either make it there or not at all.
Like Edwards moving back this year, it's like they have determined he's not good enough too play midfield so don't even bother at SANFL.

Assuming this is true, does that mean we have a problem with our recruiters? Given we are so desperate for decent midfielders, why have they recruited so many who aren't good enough?

 

[1970crow]

The treatment of Tex is exactly the same as Thommo, which I cannot understand. Thommo was first choice stoppage mid playing full minutes in our most important game of the year. Following the final siren it's ‘you’re not in our plans, you can play in the SANFL and we might be able to throw you a farewell game’.

Tex the same. One minute he’s the primary key forward target controlling movement in and to the forward line, following the final siren he’s only worthy of SANFL unless there’s injuries.

 

[Slackjaw]

The treatment of Tex is exactly the same as Thommo, which I cannot understand. Thommo was first choice stoppage mid playing full minutes in our most important game of the year. Following the final siren it ‘you’re not in our plans, you can play in the SANFL and we might be able to throw you a farewell game’.

Tex the same. One minute he’s the primary key forward target controlling movement in and to the forward line, following the final siren he’s only worthy of SANFL unless there’s injuries.

We lack the balls to make the tough calls on our greats of the club.

 

[Mostyn]

We just gave Bond who is further down the pecking order a two year deal

Why would we give out a longer deal to a less valued player?

You're comparing one and two year deals. "Longer" is subjective.

Perhaps we know there's less interest in Taylor from other clubs? Perhaps Bond does a nullifying small defender role that we don't have many other players for, and we feel we have a lot of small forwards and we're about to recruit another? Maybe Taylor is expected to lift his fitness this off-season and change role, and we want the option to move on from him if he's unable to?

Players who are on the edge of the squad aren't turning contract certainty down. They know how quick careers can end.

 

[dylan123]

Even without the guarantee of being in the AFL side (which no player should have anyways), if Tex wants to go around again I'd be more than happy to have him on the list vs the alternative.

Gunston would have very much been on that kind of thinking this season. Dear and Lewis injured early gave him games and he let his football do the talking from there. Tex is older but you can't predict how the season will play out where having him step straight in will see far less of a loss than whoever else we'd look to. Now we've moved him out of taking the forward ruck (I still dont really get why we did it given the goals he was able to generate from it), if he goes on, I wonder if he should be trying to get lighter to help him move a bit better - although I'm not sure it would help much in his case.

 

[Mostyn]

Assuming this is true, does that mean we have a problem with our recruiters? Given we are so desperate for decent midfielders, why have they recruited so many who aren't good enough?

Most kids play a lot of midfield coming up, because they're always the best players in the junior team.

They can't and won't all play midfield at the elite level. They're recruited because they have tools that can translate into other roles in the ground.

 

[Daniel6]

The treatment of Tex is exactly the same as Thommo, which I cannot understand. Thommo was first choice stoppage mid playing full minutes in our most important game of the year. Following the final siren it ‘you’re not in our plans, you can play in the SANFL and we might be able to throw you a farewell game’.

Tex the same. One minute he’s the primary key forward target controlling movement in and to the forward line, following the final siren he’s only worthy of SANFL unless there’s injuries.

It’s called respect. Tex has earnt that right to make the decision himself. The club knows Tex will make the decision in the best interest of everyone, not just himself with a selfish decision.

I’m very comfortable allowing Tex to make this decision.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

You're comparing one and two year deals. "Longer" is subjective.

Perhaps we know there's less interest in Taylor from other clubs? Perhaps Bond does a nullifying small defender role that we don't have many other players for, and we feel we have a lot of small forwards and we're about to recruit another? Maybe Taylor is expected to lift his fitness this off-season and change role, and we want the option to move on from him if he's unable to?

Players who are on the edge of the squad aren't turning contract certainty down. They know how quick careers can end.

It's in our interest to sign him for 2 or 3 years on cheap money as we did with Bond

Which didn't happen, therefore

 

[Syd Crow]

Most kids play a lot of midfield coming up, because they're always the best players in the junior team.

They can't and won't all play midfield at the elite level. They're recruited because they have tools that can translate into other roles in the ground.

I expected a reply like that. How well has that worked out do you think over the last 5 years or so?

 

[BunjiMac]

Time feels right for Tex.

I'd like to see him remain at the club as a forward coach or mentor.

In fact I want him to take Welsh under his wing as I still think that's a rough diamond that could be anything with the right guidance.

 

[Mostyn]

It's in our interest to sign him for 2 or 3 years on cheap money as we did with Bond

Which didn't happen, therefore

Therefore we obviously don't think it IS in our interest.

Fringe players would bite our hand off for a multi-year deal. We obviously have reservations and don't want to impact our list flexibility in 2026.

 

[Mostyn]

I expected a reply like that. How well has that worked out do you think over the last 5 years or so?

For every team in the league that all do the same thing?

I would think we'll for some clubs and poorly for itgers.

 

[GreyCrow]

The treatment of Tex is exactly the same as Thommo, which I cannot understand. Thommo was first choice stoppage mid playing full minutes in our most important game of the year. Following the final siren it ‘you’re not in our plans, you can play in the SANFL and we might be able to throw you a farewell game’.

Tex the same. One minute he’s the primary key forward target controlling movement in and to the forward line, following the final siren he’s only worthy of SANFL unless there’s injuries.

And Thommo spent the next 12 months getting changed out of his car at 11am

I dont see Tex doing this

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Therefore we obviously don't think it IS in our interest.

Fringe players would bite our hand off for a multi-year deal. We obviously have reservations and don't want to impact our list flexibility in 2026.

If Bond and Taylor both got offered one year deals then yeah.

It was the difference between the two, when Taylor is ahead of Bond so if anything you'd think it would be the other way around, that made me think hmm ok

 

[119others]

The treatment of Tex is exactly the same as Thommo, which I cannot understand. Thommo was first choice stoppage mid playing full minutes in our most important game of the year. Following the final siren it ‘you’re not in our plans, you can play in the SANFL and we might be able to throw you a farewell game’.

Tex the same. One minute he’s the primary key forward target controlling movement in and to the forward line, following the final siren he’s only worthy of SANFL unless there’s injuries.

Not sure if serious here?

How would you actually know how we are treating Tex? Or what the clubs strategy is re Tex if he plays on next year? Perhaps you have an inside source at the club?

If HE decides to play on it would clearly involve more rest weeks. That’s logical. Under no scenario are we giving him another year for him to play all SANFL though as you say possibly with a “farewell game”. And he wasn’t the primary key forward this year. TT now clearly is and unfortunately Tex still favoured often over Fog as Fog has serious question marks going forward. He had a very underwhelming last 13 games ave a goal a game with most against non finalists and shocking numbers vs finalsists.

We need for Fog to come good but he may well have the worst long term contract of any player we have ever handed out (from the clubs perspective). It actually scares me having our tall forwards without Tex with Fogs question marks and no SANFL player looking likely to be able to step up (look at rookie Lions talls in Gallop and Morris as a comparison)

 

[GreyCrow]

Not sure if serious here?

How would you actually know how we are treating Tex? Or what the clubs strategy is re Tex if he plays on next year? Perhaps you have an inside source at the club?

If HE decides to play on it would clearly involve more rest weeks. That’s logical. Under no scenario are we giving him another year for him to play all SANFL though as you say possibly with a “farewell game”.

Now granted its from Tom Morris - but its out there

 

[119others]

Now granted its from Tom Morris - but its out there

Ok thanks I get that and that’s what I would expect. It’s logical. Tex wont be playing 20+ games of AFL again in a season. It may be 15 with most interstate games missed (Melbourne games the possible exception)

But isn’t Tex still more of an asset to the team than Fog is? (Which is scary). Rested up he could play a role in finals. He was our best forward vs Pies and should have kicked at least 3. His influence around the club as our true spiritual leader along with coaching of young guys (if Welsh and Murray were ever going to make it having Tex mentoring is as good as you could ask for)


I reckon Tex will give it one last crack. The allure of the flag is just too great esp if we pick up another couple of first 18 players (more impactful even than the “B grade” level of talent brought in last year with the 3 mature guys). Getting Ah Chee and perhaps Petracca definitely makes us better next year.

I reckon he may play around 15 minor round games in AFL with the other 8 either completely rested or playing SANFL for a few.

That’s my prediction and also preference.