List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

[stormskye]

The Macrae one is worse.
Demattia, Steene, Ryan are speculative and a bit spuddy.
Macrae’s was an addition extension of a proven bona fide Coliban.

Ryan is anything but Spuddy. He’s had an excellent season. Strong in air and in rebound. A good decision maker. His injury is very unfortunate

 

[satty]

Ryan is anything but Spuddy. He’s had an excellent season. Strong in air and in rebound. A good decision maker. His injury is very unfortunate

Not to mention would be very tough for ryan to break into a defense as a starter given the players that are currently playing there.

 

[The Phantom]

Ryan is anything but Spuddy. He’s had an excellent season. Strong in air and in rebound. A good decision maker. His injury is very unfortunate

He’s a bit spuddy.
May not be the full Desiree, but he at least has reached Kipffler levels.

 

[The Phantom]

He got a 1 year extension in 2024.

Apologies. I just got Karl to help me fact check. You’re right. It was one year.
Only half as bad as I thought.

 

[satty]

I think ryan will eventually demand a trade.
Just look who are in front of him, maynard,q,houston,perryman,josh daicos

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Josh Daicos

Age

27

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.3

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

MG

230.5

4star

D

16.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.5

4star

MG

230.5

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.2

5star

, and other mids like pendles and crisp who occasionally rotate through the half back.Which will be the case until end of next year, so the only way he is coming in if any of the above get injured.

Don’t think he is good enough aerially to take over howe’s spot. He could take take perrymans spot and allow pez to move into the midfield , but it seems parker is ahead of him in term of preferred small/mid defender.

 

[The Phantom]

I think ryan will eventually demand a trade.
Just look who are in front of him, maynard,q,houston,perryman,josh daicos, and other mids like pendles and crisp who occasionally rotate through the half back.Which will be the case until end of next year, so the only way he is coming in if any of the above get injured.

Don’t think he is good enough aerially to take over howe’s spot. He could take take perrymans spot and allow pez to move into the midfield , but it seems parker is ahead of him in term of preferred small/mid defender.

He can go to Port as part of the Butters deal.

 

[satty]

He can go to Port as part of the Butters deal.

He is a South Australian isn’t he?

 

[The Phantom]

He is a South Australian isn’t he?

Yup.

 

[SchuPie]

The Macrae one is worse.
Demattia, Steene, Ryan are speculative and a bit spuddy.
Macrae’s was an addition extension of a proven bona fide Coliban.

I think Steele has gone past Macrae in one game

Ryan has talent, but as said, is stuck behind others, I’d like to see him tried as a defensive wing or as an outside mid

Steene is wait and see

Demattia was the wrong pick, not his fault.
Whoever made the final decision needs a kick in the jacks.
However, he still might have a role to play at AFL level. Might.

 

[Apex36]

It's not a smart cultural move to use a contract to force a player to stay when he doesn't want to. I can't imagine us doing it.

Nah I’m calling BS on this. There’s plenty of cases where a player has asked to move under contract and been refused, and then they’ve stayed long term. Unless Cameron was very unhappy at the pies, or we were given a ludicrously good trade offer, which by all accounts is not the case, I can’t imagine that we’d be letting him walk under contract.

 

[sr36]

Nah I’m calling BS on this. There’s plenty of cases where a player has asked to move under contract and been refused, and then they’ve stayed long term. Unless Cameron was very unhappy at the pies, or we were given a ludicrously good trade offer, which by all accounts is not the case, I can’t imagine that we’d be letting him walk under contract.

Footy trades are a buyers market. It's why the Pies and the Cats have shifted away from the draft. You get better value with your recruiting chips at the trade table than at the draft, because when a player asks for a trade, it's a risk to keep someone in your group who wants to be somewhere else..

 

[Mollythedolly]

Ryan is anything but Spuddy. He’s had an excellent season. Strong in air and in rebound. A good decision maker. His injury is very unfortunate

Ryan has some significant flaws to overcome imho. Reminds me of Poulter in a lot of ways. Below average disposal by foot, decision making not great. Can kick the footy well but seems to prefer to blaze long to a contest. Very 1 sided but doesn’t play to minimize the impact that might have, often running onto his left before making a last minute correction onto his right and blazing long. I can’t recall a footballer in the 21st century who goes back behind the mark as often, even when he has time and space, gesticulating all over the place, only to blaze long. Has good pace and his intercept work is good, but not great in 1v1 contested situations. Was well short of a return to senior footy imho, needs a big preseason.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I think ryan will eventually demand a trade.
Just look who are in front of him, maynard,q,houston,perryman,josh daicos, and other mids like pendles and crisp who occasionally rotate through the half back.Which will be the case until end of next year, so the only way he is coming in if any of the above get injured.

Don’t think he is good enough aerially to take over howe’s spot. He could take take perrymans spot and allow pez to move into the midfield , but it seems parker is ahead of him in term of preferred small/mid defender.

Parker and Cochran have also gone past him this year.

 

[Apex36]

Footy trades are a buyers market. It's why the Pies and the Cats have shifted away from the draft. You get better value with your recruiting chips at the trade table than at the draft, because when a player asks for a trade, it's a risk to keep someone in your group who wants to be somewhere else..

I agree with a lot of your stuff sr, but jeez you come out with some nonsense sometimes.

 

[sr36]

I agree with a lot of your stuff sr, but jeez you come out with some nonsense sometimes.

I think that's some of my least nonsensical.stuff. Port knew they weren't getting the full price for Houston. A good player wanting out sucks - but most clubs let them go and wear a loss.

 

[Hardas]

I think that's some of my least nonsensical.stuff. Port knew they weren't getting the full price for Houston. A good player wanting out sucks - but most clubs let them go and wear a loss.

Maybe a shot at back to back flags would help, if we're going completely hypothetical.

 

[Apex36]

I think that's some of my least nonsensical.stuff. Port knew they weren't getting the full price for Houston. A good player wanting out sucks - but most clubs let them go and wear a loss.

Do they? There’s plenty of players who ask the question under contract and are shut down. If they’re coming up to free agency it’s a different story, but I think you’re overplaying how many players are actually allowed to move by their clubs while under contract.

 

[The Phantom]

Ryan has some significant flaws to overcome imho. Reminds me of Poulter in a lot of ways. Below average disposal by foot, decision making not great. Can kick the footy well but seems to prefer to blaze long to a contest. Very 1 sided but doesn’t play to minimize the impact that might have, often running onto his left before making a last minute correction onto his right and blazing long. I can’t recall a footballer in the 21st century who goes back behind the mark as often, even when he has time and space, gesticulating all over the place, only to blaze long. Has good pace and his intercept work is good, but not great in 1v1 contested situations. Was well short of a return to senior footy imho, needs a big preseason.

Agree.
And both Poulter and Ryan have equally crap mullets. But Ryan’s cumulatively worse with the moustache. He’s no Markov.

 

[Ctracks]

Agree.
And both Poulter and Ryan have equally crap mullets. But Ryan’s cumulatively worse with the moustache. He’s no Markov.

Is he a faux ‘kov?

 

[Bussie]

Reality is, we're going to have to move on a few, if Ryan has potential, he may have to find it elsewhere. Macrae, Dean, Ryan all off the senior list, hard to see anyone else in line to be cut before these guys, only thin that may save them are some retirements. We'll worry about that after we win the flag

 

[Mollythedolly]

I think that's some of my least nonsensical.stuff. Port knew they weren't getting the full price for Houston. A good player wanting out sucks - but most clubs let them go and wear a loss.

Can’t recall us fighting to keep any player once they indicate they want to be somewhere else. Maybe we’ve been too accommodating.

 

[rdangelo]

Even if we don't want to pay Cameron big dollars we can hold him for another year as he's contracted. And if we can win the flag this year we'd have 2 flags next to his name at least so thank you very much for your service.

If he wants to stay but we don't offer him what other clubs do then I don't want to hear anyone cry about him wanting to leave.

Same with Mihocek, if other clubs offer him 2 and we offer him 1 and he wants to go then so be it. If we don't phase out our older guys starting this year don't be surprised when 5 of them go at once next year, and at a minimum we'll have 8 list changes this year.

 

[No SPIN]

Ryan has some significant flaws to overcome imho. Reminds me of Poulter in a lot of ways. Below average disposal by foot, decision making not great. Can kick the footy well but seems to prefer to blaze long to a contest. Very 1 sided but doesn’t play to minimize the impact that might have, often running onto his left before making a last minute correction onto his right and blazing long. I can’t recall a footballer in the 21st century who goes back behind the mark as often, even when he has time and space, gesticulating all over the place, only to blaze long. Has good pace and his intercept work is good, but not great in 1v1 contested situations. Was well short of a return to senior footy imho, needs a big preseason.

I’ve made the effort to watch his games with particular emphasis on this attribute given the skepticism here previously.
Definitely not one sided - very capable on his left.
HDM is the quintessential one sided player.

 

[jmac70]

Ryan has some significant flaws to overcome imho. Reminds me of Poulter in a lot of ways. Below average disposal by foot, decision making not great. Can kick the footy well but seems to prefer to blaze long to a contest. Very 1 sided but doesn’t play to minimize the impact that might have, often running onto his left before making a last minute correction onto his right and blazing long. I can’t recall a footballer in the 21st century who goes back behind the mark as often, even when he has time and space, gesticulating all over the place, only to blaze long. Has good pace and his intercept work is good, but not great in 1v1 contested situations. Was well short of a return to senior footy imho, needs a big preseason.

Is he the second worst Collingwood player of all time?

 

[Mollythedolly]

Is he the second worst Collingwood player of all time?

Crawl back into your IPA.