2nd Test squad named

[aussie1st]

Australia: Michael Clarke (capt), Brad Haddin, Ed Cowan, Ryan Harris, Ben Hilfenhaus, Mike Hussey, Nathan Lyon, Shaun Marsh, James Pattinson, Ricky Ponting, Peter Siddle, David Warner (12th man to be named).


No surprises.

 

[dan warna]

good riddance to Starc, his only purpose was to run batsmen into form

Haddin seems to continue the faith of the selecters despite his incompetence behind the stumps and with the bat.

Lets hope he doesn't cost us a win this time as he did in the ashes.

I think our bowling attack is very close to full strength and I don't know where harris or cummins are going to fit in if hilfy and siddle continue their vein of form.

 

[Dukes Of Hurley]

I dont think Harris should walk into the side
hilfy bowled very well, as did siddle and patto
They also all contributed vital runs

Keep the same side as boxing day

 

[hbk_aus]

Haddin must have compromising photos of the selection panel...very lucky. I guess the fact that Wade has had a quiet month or so has saved him.

 

[dan warna]

Haddin must have compromising photos of the selection panel...very lucky. I guess the fact that Wade has had a quiet month or so has saved him.

they've been playing short form cricket and haddin has the asic's marketing contract, mateship with clarke and he's from NSW, he's allowed 2 or 3 years of rubbish cricket before they drop him.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Haddin must have compromising photos of the selection panel...very lucky. I guess the fact that Wade has had a quiet month or so has saved him.

More to the point.. they are basically the same player. Slashers and average keepers. Might as well keep the more experienced one in the team.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Dan Christian quietly dropped from the squad. No Watson.

I can't see Australia taking four quicks into a test match at the SCG and relying on Clarke to bowl a few overs as the front-line spinner. 12th man will surely be one of the quicks, but I don't see Ryan Harris displacing one of the three fast bowlers that bowled India out twice for sub-300 scores.

 

[hbk_aus]

More to the point.. they are basically the same player. Slashers and average keepers. Might as well keep the more experienced one in the team.

You clearly haven't watched Wade play the longer form of the game. He can graft innings. And has form this season. Both things that elude Haddin these days...

 

[Bradesmaen]

You clearly haven't watched Wade play the longer form of the game. He can graft innings. And has form this season. Both things that elude Haddin these days...

Just like Haddin tried to do the other day... but both generally fail at it, going for a slash.

 

[legend166]

they've been playing short form cricket and haddin has the asic's marketing contract, mateship with clarke and he's from NSW, he's allowed 2 or 3 years of rubbish cricket before they drop him.

You know I have card powers now.

Just remember that.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I can't see Australia taking four quicks into a test match at the SCG and relying on Clarke to bowl a few overs as the front-line spinner. 12th man will surely be one of the quicks, but I don't see Ryan Harris displacing one of the three fast bowlers that bowled India out twice for sub-300 scores.

I think we ought to forget about the SCG being a spinning paradise, if it's going to a pitch like those so far this season. Apparently those bowling pace have had far more success at the SCG than those bowling spin this season, as it has had more grass on the wicket, (and in the SCG test last year only 3 of the 30 wickets came from spin, despite Swann bowling 44 overs and Beer 38), so it is a very valid option. Lyon has hardly had any influence on the past two matches and I'm guessing Clarke has often only thrown the ball to him in those games because the others needed a break, not because he really wanted someone to bowl spin at that point. If he'd had another good pace option in those times I dare say he'd have been getting them on instead, as pace was what was getting the job done.
So with Harris being available again now, he's probably licking his lips at the prospect of being able to throw the ball to him at those times, if it is going to be another grassy wicket, suiting pace.
Our "quicks" have ripped through NZ and India in the past two games and with potentially the best of the lot available again now, it could be a winning move to pick him for this next test. It's obviously a fair sized risk, though, given Harris' history of breaking down. Hopefully they'll make the best call. If Harris wasn't injury prone and was match fit and it was another wicket suiting pace and seam it would probably be a very easy call.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/c...or-sydney-clarke/story-fn67w6pa-1226232843866

 

[dan warna]

You know I have card powers now.

Just remember that.

Then I have no idea why Haddin continues to get selected despite dropping catches, having terrible footwork and being generally incompetent at everything he does, and without a doubt the worst player in the test side for the past 3 years being far worse than MJ has at his absolute worst.

I might go with the compromising photo's of the selectors theory then

 

[eddiesmith]

What a joke

 

[The Passenger]

pretty predictable.

i'd keep harris on ice for a little while yet.

give him a bit of a work out in a T20 game, asking the brisbane team to bowl his four overs straight through (none of this warming up and cooling down bullshit) and get him off the field so he doesn't have to be throwing himself around.

but i would also wanna see how the three paceman go and whether they can back up their melbourne form, in particular hilfenhaus and to a lesser extent siddle....

if they can, than Harris probably has to sit and wait for an opening which may only come through injury. If they can't then it makes the decision a little easier...

 

[courtjester]

I cannot understand bringing Harris back into the squad. I'd want him to have a FC game under his belt before he comes back into the team.

Pattinson, Siddle and Hilfy were pretty potent in Melb. I'd be keeping them as a unit for the next few tests. The bonus with them is that they are all strong and fit and can bowl long spells.

Lyon should not be dropped, but if they are thinking about it, surely the better thing to do would be to bring in a fit all-rounder rather than Harris, someone who can strengthen the tail as well. If Harris goes down injured early, we're stuck with three bowlers only.

Only change I'd make from Melb is Haddin out, someone tidier with the gloves in.

 

[dan warna]

I cannot understand bringing Harris back into the squad. I'd want him to have a FC game under his belt before he comes back into the team.

Pattinson, Siddle and Hilfy were pretty potent in Melb. I'd be keeping them as a unit for the next few tests. The bonus with them is that they are all strong and fit and can bowl long spells.

Lyon should not be dropped, but if they are thinking about it, surely the better thing to do would be to bring in a fit all-rounder rather than Harris, someone who can strengthen the tail as well. If Harris goes down injured early, we're stuck with three bowlers only.

Only change I'd make from Melb is Haddin out, someone tidier with the gloves in.

Lyon has been solid for every game he's played.

He did his part this test to pin down the batsmen when on.

While being an unabashed fan of o'keefe and a fan of Harris, lyon shold not be judged on 1 game where he didn't take a bag of wickets.

Deserves to be pursued with.

the hilf provided sufficient variation from Siddle and Pattinson to be continued with as well.

I didn't see a single weakness in our bowling this test match.

To bowl out the best batting line up in the world for less than 300 and 200 is two innings while our moderate batting line up outscored them is a testament to our bowlers.

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

Would be extremely surprised if they went with 4 quicks. Harris to be 12th man for mine.

 

[aussierulesrules]

pretty predictable.

i'd keep harris on ice for a little while yet.

give him a bit of a work out in a T20 game, asking the brisbane team to bowl his four overs straight through (none of this warming up and cooling down bullshit) and get him off the field so he doesn't have to be throwing himself around.

Harris has now played two Big Bash games and two club games (on either side of Christmas), which means he's played in match conditions and has been able to get through all the "throwing himself around" stuff, to prove he's at least over his injury and he's also apparently been bowling in the nets at the MCG, (to those in the test team) in the last week, so I dare say he's bowled a lot of balls and Clarke and co will know first hand how well he's bowling.
With no first class games over the Big Bash period, this is all they're going to have to go on. I'd be getting him to bowl the equivalent of a few 5 over spells (all Clarke is generally bowling them in the tests) each day, plus a lot of running around, for the next day or so and if he gets through all that OK and is bowling well, there's not much more he'd need to do to be considered available for selection. I doubt they would have wasted a spot in the squad if they didn't consider him ready.
I expect it will all come down to how the pitch and conditions look on the morning of the test (unless the conditions are clear further out).

 

[aussie1st]

Lyon has been solid for every game he's played.

He did his part this test to pin down the batsmen when on.

While being an unabashed fan of o'keefe and a fan of Harris, lyon shold not be judged on 1 game where he didn't take a bag of wickets.

Deserves to be pursued with.

the hilf provided sufficient variation from Siddle and Pattinson to be continued with as well.

I didn't see a single weakness in our bowling this test match.

To bowl out the best batting line up in the world for less than 300 and 200 is two innings while our moderate batting line up outscored them is a testament to our bowlers.

I wouldn't call going at 3.88 runs an over as pinning the batsmen down. That isn't his fault India are just that good against spin. I definitely felt the pressure released when he came on when we needed to give the fast bowlers a rest. This is where Watson is so valuable to the team. If he was in the side he would have taken Lyon and Hussey overs and kept the pressure on a pitch which was clearly favouring the seamers.

Just to be clear I'm not calling for Lyon to be dropped he deserves his spot just mentioning what I felt happened.

 

[Underarm]

this is just people trying to create a selection issue that isnt there. 4 quicks is overkill, and would require Warner, Clarke and Hussey to bowl quite a bit of overs throughout the Innings. Since its a back to back test, Hilfy,Siddle and Pattoman will still be a little tired and so having a decent spinner in the side is going to be helpful not a guy that can only bowl 5 overs at a time.

 

[roostersgal4eva]

I wouldn't call going at 3.88 runs an over as pinning the batsmen down. That isn't his fault India are just that good against spin. I definitely felt the pressure released when he came on when we needed to give the fast bowlers a rest. This is where Watson is so valuable to the team. If he was in the side he would have taken Lyon and Hussey overs and kept the pressure on a pitch which was clearly favouring the seamers.

Just to be clear I'm not calling for Lyon to be dropped he deserves his spot just mentioning what I felt happened.

You may not be but 99% of Bigfooty is....I can't comprehend why the want to use this test series to discard/want drop him after this test match when your up against guys they even took Warnie to the cleaners (1-91 is still 109 runs less the what Warne conceded in his first India test)..we need to start looking long term and im going to say the same about Patterson, Lyon should be played come hell or high water.

We have the right balance we don't need to change it for the sake of it so i would pick this bowling quartet and stick with them FFS - if you want extra bowling pick an alrounder

3.38per over against the spin kings isn't that bad since everyone is making out he went of 10 an over....

 

[lionbear]

I would rather play 10 players then name Haddin at the moment.

They would give away less byes & I would feel a lot more comfortable with the number 7 batting position.

Wade or Nevill should be playing next week. Fair enough Ponting and Hussey don't have people knocking on the door, but Haddin has had his door smashed down. If it is TV contracts and being mates with the Captain as to why he is continuing to be in the side, well it explains why we are no longer number 1 in test cricket.

Gutless by the selectors

 

[roostersgal4eva]

Couldn't agree more lion

Besides, Why Change the only thing thats working in our side? Our batting needs the changes not our bowling...

 

[aussierulesrules]

Why change it? Because it can easily get even better and it's not so much the bowling that has been so successful in the past 2 tests, it's been the fast bowling. They've done all the damage, because the pitches have suited them and it could easily be a similar situation for this next game.
Put it this way, who would India rather be facing, if it's the sort of grassy, seaming and swinging pitch that the SCG has apparently been in recent times (and was for the same test last summer, when spin got just 3 of the 30 wickets, despite Swann playing)? Lyon, who they have very little trouble with, if at all, or one of the best fast bowling options in the world, who could easily rip through their top order like the other three did in the last match?
If it is another grassy pitch, they will be hoping and praying we pick Lyon, I expect.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Then I have no idea why Haddin continues to get selected despite dropping catches, having terrible footwork and being generally incompetent at everything he does, and without a doubt the worst player in the test side for the past 3 years being far worse than MJ has at his absolute worst.

I might go with the compromising photo's of the selectors theory then

Siddle was right up there with Haddin and MJ, so why was he kept in the side for so long?

I'm fine with the squad, just lacking UK.