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that is still not guaranteed.
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It was on sbs and that didnt help.
It really did need 1 of the big 3 to take it to the next step
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With the terrible ratings this year no commercial channel was going to waste money on soccer.
I doubt the ABC has the money either with the government always threatening to cut their budget.
With the terrible ratings this year no commercial channel was going to waste money on soccer.
I doubt the ABC has the money either with the government always threatening to cut their budget.
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- A radical proposal to short-circuit pay negotiations with the AFL Players Association by putting an offer directly to the footballers to vote on has been placed before league bosses by Melbourne president and prominent industrial lawyer Glen Bartlett.
- The AFL says it will has put Gold Coast's Metricon Stadium on standby if the decision is made not to play an historic match in China. Rising international tensions have raised some doubts about playing the May 14 Port Adelaide-Gold Coast game in Shanghai.
- Port Adelaide’s $4 million China trial in doubt from North Korea
- THE Port Adelaide Football Club strongly refutes unfounded media speculation that its upcoming game against the Gold Coast Suns in Shanghai on Sunday 14 May is in doubt.
- THE final piece of the Jiangwan Stadium jigsaw is being put in place, with the construction of the temporary stands for the historic Round 8 game between Port Adelaide and the Suns underway.
- Geelong and St Kilda have reinforced their bid to join the national women's league in 2018, putting forward separate submissions to be considered this week by the AFL Commission.
- Sydney and Greater Western Sydney have expressed their frustration at the AFL's underwhelming efforts in promoting and marketing the game in NSW and Queensland.
- THE AFL is optimistic it can break its all-time attendance record as 2016 strugglers Richmond and Essendon roar back to life. The league has just recorded its highest four-round total in VFL/AFL history, with 1,318,207 fans attending the first month of footy. That figure is up almost 20,000 on the next-best figure — 2013’s 1,298,738 — with old “Big Four” clubs including Richmond and Essendon pulling strong crowds.
- Is the alignment model destroying the DNA of East Perth?
- Football Federation Australia has failed to entice the three commercial free-to-air television networks into bidding for A-League and Socceroos matches, leaving the ABC in the box seat to gain the rights. Seven West Media, Nine Entertainment, Network Ten and current FTA rights holder SBS are understood to have not lodged an official bid with the FFA by last Thursday's deadline, having baulked at some FFA requirements such as having to pay Fox Sports $2 million in annual production costs.
- National second division needed to boost player depth - IN the last round of the 2000-01 National Soccer League season, 199 Australians featured with 161 of those starting. In last weekend’s 27th and final round of the A-League, 69 Australians started while another 23 came off the bench.
- Andrew Johns says players want 26 per cent of NRL revenue
- Canberra Raiders chief executive Don Furner says a synthetic surface would be a big jump in Australian sport and it would need NRL approval to use it. Fairfax Media revealed last week chief minister Andrew Barr was looking into an artificial surface for the proposed $350 million rectangular venue.
- Phil Gould wants Penrith Panthers to be debt free in three years.
- The National Rugby League (NRL) has agreed a partnership with building services company AGI, which will invest AUS$50,000 (US$35,000) into rugby league grassroots growth and development projects in Western Australia throughout 2017.
- Players are growing increasingly frustrated as the Super Rugby overhaul saga continues to drag on, with the ARU yet to announce if it will cut the Western Force or the Melbourne Rebels.
- The Australian Rugby Union should bolster its Melbourne market in the same way the AFL empowers Greater Western Sydney, according to former AFL and Melbourne Rebels chief executive Ross Oakley.
- Australian rugby needs Western Force and Melbourne Rebels should go, according to Matthew Bourke
- Former Western Force chief executive Peter O’Meara has questioned the independence of a top Australian Rugby Union executive involved in the process to cull a team from Super Rugby.
- The Australian Rugby Union’s chief operating officer Rob Clarke has broken months of media silence to savage former Western Force boss Peter O’Meara.
- Netball Australia is in political turmoil, with board chair Anne-Marie Corboy standing down after less than a year in the post and then ousted as a director at a special general meeting called by the member organisations last week.
- State bodies move to engineer an overthrow of the Netball Australia board.
- The Nine network is looking to justify forking out more than $450 million in a new TV deal with Cricket Australia by seeking more control over the scheduling of matches and in-game advertising.
- Sport, local government and business go DIY in wake of journalist job losses
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Real dearth of Ovals around inner Sydney, leading to a situation where it makes it very difficult to add new teams or clubs, in the outer west or SW there is more space available but less demand.
Real dearth of Ovals around inner Sydney, leading to a situation where it makes it very difficult to add new teams or clubs, in the outer west or SW there is more space available but less demand.
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I think this is true, it was hard to imagine any FTA taking up the rights to the A-League when the ratings are so woeful.
On top of that, it's not a game which is conducive to being broadcast on FTA in the first place.
It's incredible to think that SBS has been paying $7 mill per annum, but no one is even now wanting to pay $2 mil per annum (for one game per week on FTA), even for the suppposed better Sat night game.
For any sport thinking it's now part of the big league, to be on the ABC is pretty embarassing.
One positive for soccer fans is that it will allow them to maintain the line that the A-League will rate 300-400k if it was on a commercial FTA network.
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SBS ratings this season were just over half of what they were 2 seasons ago.
Interesting note: the VFL last season averaged 58,000 in Melbourne on 7 with AFL Victoria paying production costs. (SBS averaged 61,000 NATIONALLY this season with SBS paying 7 million).
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It's extraordinary that the NRL has appeared to have spent all the money in its Future Fund -& has been forced to seek loans of $125,000,000.
It would be interesting to know how much money the NRL has spent up to the present time on improving its digital presence? At least this spending is an "investment"directly for its future -& should generate good revenues in the future. If not much $, then the NRL financial management model appears to have been very poor.
These $125,000,000 loans put into context Grant's recent decision to renege on the funding deal with the NRL clubs. The reason given by the NRL for this was that the NRL grassroots required much greater funding, more than what was originally expected 12 months ago.
We know, with the recent forced merger (due to declining regd. nos.) of the U13 -U17 Western & Canterbury JRL First grade Divisions in "RL grassroots heartland", that grassroots funding has become a paramount priority.
When the $1.9 billion 5 year TV rights funding flows through soon, these NRL financial difficulties are almost certainly a short term problem.
I think the issue is that $100 million of that deal has or is about to be received as an "advance" despite it not starting until next year. That and whatever deal they did with the clubs that lead to two commissioners resigning
It's a lot of money but it is less significant if it is just going to be passed through to higher salaries and offsetting club deficits
I'd be seriously jacked if they ABC paid any money for the rights and implicitly subsidised it by putting it on ABC 1 on a Saturday night at the expense of whatever was already on a no doubt rating higher
Given that SBS will no doubt continue with its anachronistic subsidy of european soccer we will have both public broadcasters providing uncommercial support for the worlds richest game and one that is wholely private owned...yucky cultural cringe
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The Soccer Broadcasting Service is taxpayer funded -& should not be biased towards any sport. Morgan polls have constantly revealed more foreign-born spectators attend AFL matches, than foreign born attending A League matches. The Syd. based & focused SBS, fixated on soccer, virtually ignores the AFL, & provides more coverage even to the NRL.
It is incontrovertible that, if the commercial networks are unwilling to pay $2,000,00 pa for the A League, but SBS are paying currently $7,000,000 pa for identical rights of 1 game pw, then the SBS is wasting taxpayer funds. The SBS should have its sports' funding slashed. The woeful A League SBS FTA ratings, it can be argued, indicate that the SBS is not in a genuine commercial relationship with the A League -it is a defacto, taxpayer funded, wasteful, marketing arm of the A League.
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Can't see the ABC putting it on their main channel on a Saturday night. They get the biggest ratings of any channel at that time with all the oldies at home watching Midsomer Murders and the like.
I'm looking forward to all the chip on their shoulder soccer types moaning that it's on a secondary channel and the ABC becoming yet another network they hate.
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how about no!!!!! for one, Soccer isnt the A-league. EPL matches at 10pm have been rating higher than A-league matches.
what do you want SBS to do. have a weekly footy chat show based on the unique perspective of indigenous Australians.... seriously, your issue is the coverage that soccer and other sports gets on SBS not the amount of coverage AR gets.
i am not talking as a fan of soccer here either. there is another sport which they probably broadcast more content for. I, for one, would riot if they dare cut content of the Tour de France or other great cycling events. how boring would SBS be if they stopped these unique broadcasts to promote more Aussie Rules. what Aussie Rules is left to broadcast.
SBS is great how it is. it what the government channels should do. broadcast those sports or leagues out of the limelight. i remember when they had the rights to the Olymipics. We could actually watch sports we normally wouldnt get to see. Volleyball and Handball to name a few. its variety should be encouraged.
There was a strong case for SBS's soccer coverage and investment back in the 80s under its charter but, IMO, this is no longer the case and hasn't been for some time.
If SBS is outbidding commercial FTA networks for professional sports, particular foreign competitions, than this is blatantly not right. With digital television, pay tv and the internets, there is surely no longer a case for a public subsidy of European soccer with all its gratuitous wealth.
How is this justified spending of a public broadcaster?
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People have copious information sources online in both english and every other language of european soccer. The A League is a set of private franchises in a competition that already dwarfs the coverage of all other second tier sports. And a "football opinion" resource?
The ABC already puts "football" ahead of "AFL" on its ribbon....
For all the hand wringing about co-funded stadiums that are actually filled and don't prevent any code from playing on it, too many public agencies in this country act to skew resources towards globally rich sports at the expense of the domestically successful and, in the case of the Australian football, indigenous ones
We live in a cultural cringey wonderland.
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How about you settle down. SBS isnt likely to be paying 7 million for the EPL rights, and its notable that they actively didnt want the A-league rights this season...but no one else wanted them either.
Since catering to these people is part of its charter, it couldnt hurt. Some promotion to aboriginal people couldnt hurt - Its not like the A-league has a huge percentage of indigenous players. THREE players...
The issue is SBS paying well beyond commercial terms for a product, and thus wasting taxpayer funds. If commercial networks wont pay 2 million for a product, why has SBS been paying 7 million?
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The Tour actually rates. SBS has broadcast very little Aussie Rules ever - except indigenous stuff on NITV (again as befits its charter).
if its paying beyond commercial terms for material nobody else wants, then it is ripping off the taxpayer. And it knows it, which is why it previously said it wanted to offload the rights it had, and why it wont even pay 2 million for the next lot. With the advent of the internet there are other avenues besides broadcast television for unpopular rating sport - see what the NBL and WNBL have done for example.
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whats wrong with sbs funding the epl?
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they overpaid for the a-league 3 years ago. it happens. it was the first time the a-league was shown on FTA. you couldnt be sure what the ratings would be like. hindsight is golden and it is great that you and others are talking from it.
who cares about the A-league and indigenous players. was the a-league shown on NITV. so its relevance to this discussion is .........
Be that person then Wookie. i am a "soccer troll".
the tour rates alright after some very hard work. but do the classics rate well. the Vuelta. cycling central. they lost the Giro this year but as a soccer fan, i wouldnt know.
What Aussie Rules are there left to broadcast? you go on and on about the NITV charter and why they must broadcast MG but ignore the fact that the TSL would not be a part of the SBS charter.
did you not just post an article indicating that SBS were not interested in broadcasting the a-league? they have moved to fix your concerns.
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personally, i didnt like that they got it. think it would have been better if they kept the World Cup games they onsold to Optus. the world cup should be their core commitment to soccer. everyone supports that.
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Have to laugh that people have a problem with SBS/ABC paying for A-League but are all good with SBS selling off most of the World Cup next year, thus destroying the coverage we all love.
Clear agendas at play.
Clear agendas at play.
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Apparently sbs and abc should only show aussie rules because of some pax ar rubbish a few here are pushing
Reality is sbs and abc funding and its use has never been under greater scrutiny and govt oversight than it is today. Libs are not fans of either, and some in the party are still pushing for them to be privatized.
If either was just wasting money on a boondoggle, the libs would be all over them like door knobs on degoey.
Any price paid will have been reviewed to death internally and by the board, and only approved when its decided that the price paid is appropriate for the benefit that they expect the content to provide them with
To the extent that it is even inconsistent, can you identify the poster who has "a problem with SBS/ABC paying for A-League but are all good with SBS selling off most of the World Cup next year"?
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Yep - I think Lowy must have used a bit of muscle and called in some political favours which allowed SBS to waste a huge chunk of its budget on something which doesn't rate.
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I'm uncomfortable as well at the thought of ABC broadcasting soccer but while they're broadcasting other sports such as the cycling and EPL, there really isn't much to be gained by critically looking at it. The question here is why FFA have failed their sport in not finding a FTA commercial partner.
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