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They have every right to investigate these things, given the potential issues/conflicts with the Joel Selwood and Chris Scott incidents.

With that said, if anyone actually bothers to watch the 90 second clip, the AFL, sources, and Caro herself, are at pains to say that Geelong is not being accused of anything, but rather audited given these potential conflicts have confirmed the need to check that everything is above board.

My only thing here will be, is if the AFL comes back and says we're not in breach of anything serious, then will people actually stop with the conspiracy theories and accept that as fact? Given that we will have actually opened up our books and provided details of our financial dealings...that's something that 17 other clubs will not have done.

If anything significant is found, I'll be the first to say that I'm wrong about this. I would hope though if it comes back clean, that others would have the courtesy to offer the same - given the amount of years we've copped shit about hypothetical 3rd party deals/rorting the system. I guess we'll see though if tribalism and impartiality is overruled by acceptance of direct sources - something modern society seems to have a lot of trouble with.
When have the AFL ever done an investigation on anything and found any wrongdoing?
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Round O
 
They have every right to investigate these things, given the potential issues/conflicts with the Joel Selwood and Chris Scott incidents.

With that said, if anyone actually bothers to watch the 90 second clip, the AFL, sources, and Caro herself, are at pains to say that Geelong is not being accused of anything, but rather audited given these potential conflicts have confirmed the need to check that everything is above board.

My only thing here will be, is if the AFL comes back and says we're not in breach of anything serious, then will people actually stop with the conspiracy theories and accept that as fact? Given that we will have actually opened up our books and provided details of our financial dealings...that's something that 17 other clubs will not have done.

If anything significant is found, I'll be the first to say that I'm wrong about this. I would hope though if it comes back clean, that others would have the courtesy to offer the same - given the amount of years we've copped shit about hypothetical 3rd party deals/rorting the system. I guess we'll see though if tribalism and impartiality is overruled by acceptance of direct sources - something modern society seems to have a lot of trouble with.
Tbf I don’t think anyone has that much faith in the honesty and morales of the AFL as an organisation , that they wouldn’t sweep it ( or anything else at another club ) under the rug if they had the chance
 

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what took you so long seinfeld GIF
 
Oooohh you can taste the squirming from cats fans in here. Whatever the outcome of the audits, there’s one thing we can all agree on. Geelong are cheats and their town is a meth filled dump 👍
Hi craffles
 
They have every right to investigate these things, given the potential issues/conflicts with the Joel Selwood and Chris Scott incidents.

With that said, if anyone actually bothers to watch the 90 second clip, the AFL, sources, and Caro herself, are at pains to say that Geelong is not being accused of anything, but rather audited given these potential conflicts have confirmed the need to check that everything is above board.

My only thing here will be, is if the AFL comes back and says we're not in breach of anything serious, then will people actually stop with the conspiracy theories and accept that as fact? Given that we will have actually opened up our books and provided details of our financial dealings...that's something that 17 other clubs will not have done.

If anything significant is found, I'll be the first to say that I'm wrong about this. I would hope though if it comes back clean, that others would have the courtesy to offer the same - given the amount of years we've copped shit about hypothetical 3rd party deals/rorting the system. I guess we'll see though if tribalism and impartiality is overruled by acceptance of direct sources - something modern society seems to have a lot of trouble with.
Let's be real, they'll all jump to another conspiracy to explain their own club's inadequacies, we'll continue to take the piss out of them for it and everything will continue on as it always has.
 
The biggest issue that cats fans aren't able to understand at present is the fact that not everyone who works in accounts (i.e. with direct execution of and access to payments and 'sponsorships') at cotton on is a cats fan, and may or may not be discussing invoices raised post-contract/specifics of third-party sponsorships at some of melbournes finest establishments
 
Honestly I don’t understand why Richmond supporters get so wound up about Geelong- as far as I remember the Cats never beat them in a truly meaningful game, so what’s it all about? If it went back and forth I’d understand. It would be like Hawthorn fans getting shitty at Freo
Dunno, the 15 goal drubbing in the 1995 prelim was pretty meaningful.

Richmond were even shitter for 20 years after
 

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Caro is an elite news breaker

Breaks the big stories consistently but cops hate because people get sensitive when she reveals news about their club 😂
It's not really a story, though

The actual story is "AFL auditing third party deals across the league"

Caro's just click-baiting everyone by going "and Geelong are also being audited, but isn't it interesting they've had recent "issues" with TP deals.....oh and I'm not suggesting Geelong have done anything wrong"

And people are soiling themselves over it
 
I'm a bit perplexed as to why they need to conduct an 'audit'? My understanding was that the AFL had to tick off on all 3rd party deals and that this had been the case since Judd's proposed ambassador deal with Visy when he crossed from the Eagles.

That process had led to a number of proposed deals being knocked back including Frank Costa's proposed deal to Gary Ablett to represent the property arm of his business back in 2018.

How are we in a position where all commercial agreements and player sponsorships are not on some sort of register at AFL HQ? In that case it becomes a very simple case of if the deal is facilitated by the club or has a link to the club (for example a sponsor/or business linked to a major club benefactor such as a previous or current president) then it is clearly included in the TPP.

I think the AFL have created a significant rod for their own back here by allowing a number of deals with significantly related parties (think existing major sponsors) and they're now trying to crack down on it in a way in which it doesn't emphasise their own incompetence in allowing these deals in the first place given its likely a few clubs are really starting to use their off field heft to advantage themselves and circumvent the league's equalisation measures.

Or at least that is my take. I fully expect nothing to come out of this other than some revised 'guidelines' around third party deals and an understanding from all clubs that deals of these types are now off the table with current settings grandfathered for players who have already entered into them.
 

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I'm a bit perplexed as to why they need to conduct an 'audit'? My understanding was that the AFL had to tick off on all 3rd party deals and that this had been the case since Judd's proposed ambassador deal with Visy when he crossed from the Eagles.

That process had led to a number of proposed deals being knocked back including Frank Costa's proposed deal to Gary Ablett to represent the property arm of his business back in 2018.

How are we in a position where all commercial agreements and player sponsorships are not on some sort of register at AFL HQ? In that case it becomes a very simple case of if the deal is facilitated by the club or has a link to the club (for example a sponsor/or business linked to a major club benefactor such as a previous or current president) then it is clearly included in the TPP.

I think the AFL have created a significant rod for their own back here by allowing a number of deals with significantly related parties (think existing major sponsors) and they're now trying to crack down on it in a way in which it doesn't emphasise their own incompetence in allowing these deals in the first place given its likely a few clubs are really starting to use their off field heft to advantage themselves and circumvent the league's equalisation measures.

Or at least that is my take. I fully expect nothing to come out of this other than some revised 'guidelines' around third party deals and an understanding from all clubs that deals of these types are now off the table with current settings grandfathered for players who have already entered into them.

As noted elsewhere, ticking off the deal is one part, but auditing to make sure the deal is being honoured correctly is (or should be) part of the process.

Bit of a piss take if you sign off on a deal saying Joe Bloggs is going to work as Company X's Relationship Manager 3 days a week for $150k a year, if all he really does is show up at the Christmas Party and flirt with the CEOs wife.

All third party deals are submitted to the AFL, so I'm sure they have a register of sorts. The system can't be as straight forward as you propose because the AFLPA want their members to be able to earn money outside of their contracts - which including all deals with Sponsors etc as part of the TPP would hamper.

But I think you're right in that the AFL is trying to put the genie back in the bottle a bit.

Or at the very least just being "seen" to be doing something to placate Melbourne, GWS and the Bulldogs etc
 
The biggest issue that cats fans aren't able to understand at present is the fact that not everyone who works in accounts (i.e. with direct execution of and access to payments and 'sponsorships') at cotton on is a cats fan, and may or may not be discussing invoices raised post-contract/specifics of third-party sponsorships at some of melbournes finest establishments

Do you think they'd whistleblow in their organisation based on supporting another team? I don't quite get the logic here
 
Geelong supporters flooding the thread to use weight of numbers to drown out the discussion and paint everyone else as rabid conspiracy theorists - despite a credible AFL journalist bringing to light something that is in the public interest.
A credible journalist that also has to be corrected that there are multiple other clubs under an audit and there is nothing sinister in this process at all….sensationalist tactic is what is being called out here by cats supporters
 
It's not really a story, though

The actual story is "AFL auditing third party deals across the league"

Caro's just click-baiting everyone by going "and Geelong are also being audited, but isn't it interesting they've had recent "issues" with TP deals.....oh and I'm not suggesting Geelong have done anything wrong"

And people are soiling themselves over it
Caro is brilliant at what she does. People reliably have the emotional reactions journos prod them for. "Look at them squirm!" with drool and foam going everywhere is the expected response. Looks like it's all going to plan. Good job Caro!
 

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