Understood.
No need to support the sentiment though (not saying you are personally to be clear)
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Are Carlton on the verge of greatness?
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No need to support the sentiment though (not saying you are personally to be clear)
I don't endorse it, I guess you could say my ambivalence supports it. TV, the media, society are all gross. Throw in ads, gambling exploitation and the whole thing is an ugly circus. I guess we all choose to participate. We could boycott it if we really wanted to make a stand. I'm not that deep on the rage meter.
Well that'd take the collective to deliver that.
Regardless, we're veering off the the thread.
Back to the thread, the blose are on the verge of something and it ain't greatness.
How many coaches have the burned in the last 20 years? Including proven good ones.
The difference I guess is they got Brian Cook in. He might be the one who can turn around whatever has been rotten at the club for so long (quite possibly the influence of coterie groups over football decisions). Maybe a better coach would stand a chance now, becauise whatever has held a (should be) powerful club back must go well beyond the football department alone.
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We've given Voss a good crack at the job I feel. Almost certain he's going to be given the arse but the club has stuck with him through thick and thin over the last 3-4 years.
Agree there, and last year with Curnow/McKay pairing actually working, and some progress from others, it semed it might pay dividends. Even I started to belive in Carlton's false hope that time. By "burned" I didn't necessarily mean prematurely sacked.
With "burned" I meant set up to fail. From the outside, as a not particularly observant observer, it seems the club has had other issues in the background making the coaching and football jobs that much harder. Particularly for inexperienced coaches, perhaps impossible.
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Whether Voss is good or not or middling, whom and i to know.
Sacked or not sacked. Makes no difference to me.
Getting a new coach, what exactly more will they get out of this list? Because i can't see it.
I can see the list in decline. A new coach will be sacked even quicker.
Rinse and repeat.
Sacked or not sacked. Makes no difference to me.
Getting a new coach, what exactly more will they get out of this list? Because i can't see it.
I can see the list in decline. A new coach will be sacked even quicker.
Rinse and repeat.
As said embark on a total rebuild now and bottom out and time has come now do such thing at carlton proably say the same with the likes of melbourne essendon these type as well all 3 should bottom out and embark on rebuilds
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Never had a real proper rebuild ya reckon? Where have you been the last 10 years?
Laying the blame on Voss and giving him the flick will be such a Carlton thing to do.
The problem isn't the coach.
There has been a lot of interruption this year to the playing list with injury and mental health matters.
The list has also been top heavy with a few stars and inadequate depth.
List management has been too keen on recruiting names on big deals that have not delivered. McGovern, Martin, Williams etc and then they let go quality players like M Kennedy.
They need to address the injury situation and the list management decisions.
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Don't disagree, but he's gone regardless imo.
Personally I think Voss is an average coach but far from the root of the problem.
Then becomes a question of whether it's worth keeping an average coach and try and fix the other issues around him, or try and fix the other issues and get a coach you also think will be an improvement on Voss.
Blues already at 30 years, longest flag drought in the clubs history.
Struggling to see how they could win a flag in the next 5 years
Stromageddon
Hour of Pessimism
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If I could say one thing as a footy fan, it's that Carlton are shit.
Their juju was ****ed when the brown paper bags happened.
Nothing good has happened since. Spoonbowls, Malthouse, watter bottles - the list goes on.
Yet year after year, the media go all in on how Carlton's gonna make finals this year and yada yada yada.
I've been watching AFL since 2001 and never once have I thought "hey, Carlton are good now." I've even been fooled by thinking Essendon were good once. But never the Blues. It was ingrained early in me that they were shit, and I just can't let go of that belief.
Their juju was ****ed when the brown paper bags happened.
Nothing good has happened since. Spoonbowls, Malthouse, watter bottles - the list goes on.
Yet year after year, the media go all in on how Carlton's gonna make finals this year and yada yada yada.
I've been watching AFL since 2001 and never once have I thought "hey, Carlton are good now." I've even been fooled by thinking Essendon were good once. But never the Blues. It was ingrained early in me that they were shit, and I just can't let go of that belief.
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Not yet — Carlton aren’t on the verge of greatness. In fact, they’re starting to look like a team slipping back into familiar chaos.
Last year, the Richmond 2016–17 comparison had legs: a superstar core (Curnow, Cripps, Walsh, Weitering, McKay), a coach under scrutiny (Voss like Hardwick), and a finals run that hinted at a breakout. But in 2025, that narrative has completely unraveled.
They’re 6-10, and just got belted by 50 points by Port at Adelaide Oval — a ground where Richmond famously made their premiership statement. For Carlton, it was the opposite: disorganised, passive, and lacking identity.
Off-field? The noise is growing. The talk of a Cerra–Fantasia leadership co-ticket isn’t about fresh ideas — it’s a sign of internal division. Fantasia isn’t even best 22 every week. And while Cripps is still officially captain, even the suggestion of a leadership change mid-season reflects a club unsure of who it is or where it’s going.
And then there’s the now-infamous Lego saga — a team-building exercise that somehow sparked tensions, exposed personality clashes, and became symbolic of a group that struggles to gel. Great clubs don’t fracture over plastic bricks.
Yes, Carlton have talent. But talent without alignment means nothing. Right now, this isn’t a club on the verge of greatness — it’s a club at a crossroads, unsure whether to regroup or fall apart.
Until they find unity, build trust, and deliver four quarters consistently, they’re not building anything great — no matter how many Lego pieces they pile together.
Not yet — Carlton aren’t on the verge of greatness. In fact, they’re starting to look like a team slipping back into familiar chaos.
Last year, the Richmond 2016–17 comparison had legs: a superstar core (Curnow, Cripps, Walsh, Weitering, McKay), a coach under scrutiny (Voss like Hardwick), and a finals run that hinted at a breakout. But in 2025, that narrative has completely unraveled.
They’re 6-10, and just got belted by 50 points by Port at Adelaide Oval — a ground where Richmond famously made their premiership statement. For Carlton, it was the opposite: disorganised, passive, and lacking identity.
Off-field? The noise is growing. The talk of a Cerra–Fantasia leadership co-ticket isn’t about fresh ideas — it’s a sign of internal division. Fantasia isn’t even best 22 every week. And while Cripps is still officially captain, even the suggestion of a leadership change mid-season reflects a club unsure of who it is or where it’s going.
And then there’s the now-infamous Lego saga — a team-building exercise that somehow sparked tensions, exposed personality clashes, and became symbolic of a group that struggles to gel. Great clubs don’t fracture over plastic bricks.
Yes, Carlton have talent. But talent without alignment means nothing. Right now, this isn’t a club on the verge of greatness — it’s a club at a crossroads, unsure whether to regroup or fall apart.
Until they find unity, build trust, and deliver four quarters consistently, they’re not building anything great — no matter how many Lego pieces they pile together.
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The gameplan is obviously pretty bad though - in fact tactically it seems almost non existent most of the time. That's mostly on coaching, but on field leadership too. Those things may be true, but the coaching is one of many reasons.
Define "verge".
The team seem to have really lost their way on field this year, and now look checked out
Off field needs a lot of work also
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How many premierships have Carlton won in your lifetime?
Compared that to me and my mob?
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