Politics Aussie Fascists, (neo)Nazis and Leg Spinners

[stefcep]

So the doctors, accountants, pharmacists pharmacists, teachers, and other middle class professionals I’ve encountered in the last week of non white heritage are all just secret uber drivers eh?

So...how about we train our own?

How many did you encounter as a proportion of the total intake.

And you do know that there is a correlation between stagnating wages and immigration? Ask the pharmacist employees what they think of their wages and conditions.. I guess its not your wage, then why care about it, right?

 

[phantom13]

So...how about we train our own?

How many did you encounter as a proportion of the total intake.

And you do know that there is a correlation between stagnating wages and immigration? Ask the pharmacist employees what they think of their wages and conditions.. I guess its not your wage, then why care about it, right?

Correlation isn’t causation though.

Not knowing the difference seems to be a HUGE issue for people like yourself

 

[Soggy2112]

Nup. We're not going past that. In 2022 we had over 700,000 immigrants. In 2023 it was 660,000. Surely that should have fixed why we have a 2 year wait for elective surgery? Or the lack of construction workers. I mean thats nearly 5 cities the size of Geelong in 2 years. Surely those shortages would have been fixed with soooo many ariving with the "required expertise".

Enough of the gaslighting: all we get is more Uber, Amazon and door dash drivers many of whom are students using their courses as a back door to PR. I suppose its good for the millionaire Uni Chancellors, so there is that silver lining.

Yeah you’re gonna need to provide evidence if you’re going to make that claim.

If your concern is around a skills shortage, then why does this protest not involve people advocating for the government to support people better in getting in to trades.

Btw, people like delivery drivers are still important to society. If the high number of immigrants fulfilling these roles aren’t there, who is going to do it?

People who are committed to this nation and willing to adapt to the local way of life.

Yeah what does that mean?

You yourself have claimed that Australia is built on Judaea-Christian values. I presume then you are pro Islamic immigration, as the values of Islam closely align with the values of Judaism and Christianity?

Again you miss the point entirely. What you should be asking is WHY does the Uni degree cost so much in the first place? Why do Uni's have million dollar salaries for Chancellors and spend millions on marketing? And how much is that Uni degree really worht these days when so many have them?

Shorten is getting paid more than the PM!

Three points:

1. Why shouldn’t Uni chancellor’s be well paid? It’s a hugely important role that we would want high quality people in. You have to pay well to get that.
2. Unis have to spend on marketing to compete. Or are you suggesting they be government owned and run? That’s something I would probably get behind.
3. Where has this myth that uni degrees are not valuable come from? On a personal level I graduated four years ago and currently earn significantly more than the median Australian salary, working a job I could not get without that degree. I would hardly be the only person in that boat. Getting a degree or a trade is still hugely valuable for the average person.

 

[Saint Shags]

Fair enough..setting aside the ethics of taking away doctors trained by other nations, how many of the 660,000 in 2023 do you think were trained for those roles that we need? Secondly with 660,000 immigrants in one year are they not going to demand those same services?

Its like a cat chasing its tail, and leads to nowhere.

So quick question.

How many of those are counted as:

Skilled workers
Temporary students
Returning citizens

 

[demondavey]

Yes I seriously think politicins are stupid, and worse many are corrupt and do the bidding of their backers: the Libs with the property industry and Labor with the corrupt and criminal building and constructioin unions.

Its a failing economic policy that has led us toa per capita recession- the GDP pie is bigger but your slice of it is smaller.

You're being lied to and you're too ****ing stupid to see it.

Not really. I survive in this society really well. I work hard, make money, pay off my mortgage, have an education and have total freedom to do virtually what I’d like within the confines of the law.

There’s corruption everywhere, it’ll never not be there. Fingers and pies. Happens globally.

But I can tell you one thing, immigration isn’t the issue.

 

[Soggy2112]

So...how about we train our own?

Are you then asking for increased investment in education and getting people in to trades or university?

Because I’m all for that. Haven’t seen too many at this protest arguing that though…

 

[schneebly111]

So...how about we train our own?

Have a look at those protesting today. Not one of them would have the Brian cells to add up 2+2 let alone finish a university degree.

The honest truth is too many white Australian kids just want to become FIFO or tradies or other working class jobs without the time and effort to finish a uni degree; or they start one and then get too concerned with drinking and partying to finish.

Migrants from other nations have the respect for education in their culture which we Australians lack, and it’s why they are a valuable contribution to our nation.

How many did you encounter as a proportion of the total intake.

Given the strictness of immigration in letting people in, I’m guessing the majority

And you do know that there is a correlation between stagnating wages and immigration? Ask the pharmacist employees what they think of their wages and conditions.. I guess its not your wage, then why care about it, right?

Then you’ll be complaining that inflation is too high.

Just admit you want a white Australia.

 

[leon123]

My data is from the last ABS publication where it went from 739,000 to to 667,000. Its all good now. What a joke.

you need to dive deeper/understanding of the 'data' - that figure is NOT permanent migrants

 

[Saint Shags]

Yeah it’s all about migration and economics eh bro?:

**** me.

They used it as a ****ing prison.

And they weren't even the first ones here!

And when the shit hit the fan in WWII where were those amazing Brits then?

 

[schneebly111]

Are you then asking for increased investment in education and getting people in to trades or university?

Because I’m all for that. Haven’t seen too many at this protest arguing that though…

Here here

Haven’t seen a single “let’s increase funding to education” sign at today’s rally.

 

[leon123]

Students and temporary visa workers who had to go home during Covid would have accounted for much of that 660k I imagine. That would be a correction, not a trend. For better or worse, education is an export, which doesn't help things but is far from being the primary source of the problem. As far as services goes, yes, more people means more demand for services, which means we need more people. This is why I say look at the underlying problems rather than immigration itself.

Spot on

 

[stefcep]

Both at the moment.

oh.. ATM.

Have you done that? Cause you seem to be complaining a lot about a policy you seem to think is changing to your whim (spoiler, it’s not)

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Things change quickly in politics and don't be so sure that this wave of immigrants always will vote Labor. The two largest sources of immigration are India and China. Indians hold very conservative values and the local Chinese are here not because they love socialism and communism, they're are very materialistic.

Jacinta Allan has one of the lowest approval ratings of any Premier ever, and the Labor party droped to just 20% a month or two ago..won't take much to topple Labor in Victoria.

 

[schneebly111]

Things change quickly in politics and don't be so sure that this wave of immigrants always will vote Labor. The two largest sources of immigration are India and China. Indians hold very conservative values and the local Chinese are here not because they love socialism and communism, they're are very materialistic.

Chinese community moved massively away from the Liberals due to their anti China scaremongering; Indian communities mostly vote Labor.

Jacinta Allan has one of the lowest approval ratings of any Premier ever, and the Labor party droped to just 20% a month or two ago..won't take much to topple Labor in Victoria.

Labor have moved back ahead of the Liberals more recently, if they keep destroying themselves internally

 

[demondavey]

**** me.

They used it as a ****ing prison.

And they weren't even the first ones here!

And when the shit hit the fan in WWII where were those amazing Brits then?

Shooting down Nazis during the Battle of Britain.

 

[schneebly111]

The evidence keeps piling up

Another white nationalistic taking centre stage



And “Heil Australia” (they are definitely saying Heil not Hail)



I wonder if any speakers today didn’t mention white nationalism, because I can’t find any?

 

[stefcep]

you need to dive deeper/understanding of the 'data' - that figure is NOT permanent migrants

So they don't need housing, infrastructure, health and education?

 

[leon123]

No its not equally. And why would they do that when they can just vote for a party that has the sense to be more selective and restrict immigration?

Do you understand the basics of a population pyramid? Well most western countries have that upside down now.

Ill make it simple.. we dont breed enough and have to many old people - one solution is immigration

 

[faible]

Why are you virtue signalling to fascists again?

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Few blokes on the conspiracy board I’d pick to be this guy

 

[phantom13]

oh.. ATM.



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Things change quickly in politics and don't be so sure that this wave of immigrants always will vote Labor. The two largest sources of immigration are India and China. Indians hold very conservative values and the local Chinese are here not because they love socialism and communism, they're are very materialistic.

Jacinta Allan has one of the lowest approval ratings of any Premier ever, and the Labor party droped to just 20% a month or two ago..won't take much to topple Labor in Victoria.

I mean, if you wanna hypothesize which party is gonna win more votes moving into the future I’d say it’s likely to be one not aligning with a protest that is now just a flat out nazi rally. Most common folk don’t want that association being made.

If you wanna do some fact checking India and China are 2 and 3 on our migration countries guess what number 1 is (hint, it’s whiter than even you wanna be)

 

[leon123]

So they don't need housing, infrastructure, health and education?

Yes, our capitalist based economy likes demand, it feeds our economy - increased demand - its a good thing from a 'growth perspective'. Sure... be like Russia - declining demand, higher proportions of old people - who then pays taxes to support these old people? who nurses these old people

 

[stefcep]

Have a look at those protesting today. Not one of them would have the Brian cells to add up 2+2 let alone finish a university degree.

You could even call them....The Deplorables. It worked out well for Hilary Clinton. I mean what could go wrong?

The honest truth is too many white Australian kids just want to become FIFO or tradies or other working class jobs without the time and effort to finish a uni degree; or they start one and then get too concerned with drinking and partying to finish.

The honest truth is you're generalizing about people based on their skin color and nationality. Do you do "irony"?

Migrants from other nations have the respect for education in their culture which we Australians lack, and it’s why they are a valuable contribution to our nation.

See above.

Given the strictness of immigration in letting people in, I’m guessing the majority

I'm guessing you're wrong.

Then you’ll be complaining that inflation is too high.

Just admit you want a white Australia.

Just admit you hate White Australia.

 

[Saint Shags]

So they don't need housing, infrastructure, health and education?

In the 20 years between 2001 and 2021 the population increased by 34% whilst the the number of houses/dwellings increased by 39%

Is it really immigration thats the issue here?

Im thinking not.

 

[schneebly111]

Just admit you hate White Australia.

Yes. Absolutely hate the “white Australia” on display by these racist gronks today, I absolutely despise every piece of crap that has exited their mouths today.

That white Australia can get in the bin forever.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

You going to try and convince me otherwise? I am responding to the type of argument your racist white gronk makes about ‘losing Aussie culture’

I asked the question; define Australian culture?

Your argument is trite. Saying that there is no culture because it is similar to another culture is moronic. That's like saying Spain doesn't have a culture because it's influenced by the Romans or that the US doesn't have a culture because it's a derivative of European culture. Which is obviously not the case. One of the stupidest things ive ever read.

Australia has a clear and distinct culture.

Defined by excellence, larrinkinsim, outdoorsness, layaboutism and mateship. We share a lot of British traits being a part of the Commonwealth and former British colony but morphed into a way representative of our people and our environment. We lack the posh and pomp of England in favour of a relaxed attitude necessary for the heat and isolation. We are notoriously good humoured and laughable. You meet an Australian anywhere in the world and they will be more laid back and funny than the European or US counterparts. We are a symbol of excellence. Despite our small population we continually excel in Sport, science and economics. We are a culture of heroes - Don Bradman, Kathy Freeman, Ian Thorpe. While yes other places do have beaches, it is the most ingrained in our culture. Not some place for beach bars, tourists or a place you spend a weekend in the summer, we are connected with the coast, so much so that we have the most developed coastline metropolitan in the world, we walk to it barefoot and grab a coffee overlooking it. I could go on.

There are even negatives to our culture. We are an overly humble people, who (to our detriment) criticise those who succeed or break away from the pack. The '"tall poppy" syndrome is a clearly defining characteristic of Australian culture uniquely seen endemically in our society.

There is a clear and distinct Australian culture.. and it's people like you, with your self hatred that you transplant onto Auatralia currently driving this country and its culture into the dirt.

 

[schneebly111]

Even though she marches alongside them at the front and let them speak at the microphone the rally organiser claims neo Nazis had nothing to do with the rally