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Really likes seeing the boys play an aggressive strategy, even if it didn’t work out.

Weaknesses we can address in one trade season:

1) another key forward. Gunston isn’t exactly Jeremy Cameron, but if we had him tonight instead of JZ it would have meant multiple goals of differences
2) an experienced key defender. In hindsight it would have been better to play Walker instead of Bonar for his 1v1 capabilities, but relying on a 1 gamer and Bonar was just a bridge too far
3) real wingers. Give me blokes who can run 14km in a match and still kick straight most of the time. It would change the quality of our overall squad immediately.
Those and another skilled, fast, crumbing small is the menu for the off-season.
 

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I had to go watch after reading your comment. Strange for a coach to single a player out like that I feel. Said it wasn’t his best game, maybe a slight challenge from the coach for the last month of footy for Bon Bon

The journalist directly mentioned McKay (or maybe Dawson?) and Bonar being good I think.
He sort of had to distinguish between the 2 as he thought 1 had played well and the other hadn't.
It's not like he brought Bonar up for having a poor game himself.
He just said not his best game also.
We need more out of Bon though. I'd move him up to defensive winger and let him use his speed and kicking on the counter attack.
 
You know something… North did plenty of things right in that game. For what it’s worth, I think if we had a dominant key forward (say a Harry McKay/Curnow/Hawkins) in addition to Larkey plus a capable small forward playing we would have given that game a red hot shake.

Alas, the connection between mids and forwards (a bit of ball usage and a bit of leading patterns) wasn’t there to make us a scoring threat.

3 tackles in our forward 50 for the game ain’t it. Couldn’t bring it to ground.

Essendon needing to create a lot of their scoring chains from the d50 is not a good way to play football and it’s clear why they are where they are. It would have been good to be able to stop those chains a bit more effectively, but with better entries we would’ve take that away from them in the first place.

Individually:

- I’ve seen some criticism of Dawson. I thought he showed a bit. His disposal was pretty tidy and looks like he’s not afraid to run with the ball and create. With a pre-season under his belt and a better system (or a system at all) I think he can be an AFL quality player.

- Jy took it personally and tried his guts out.

- Would like to see our effective tackles percentage. Felt like we couldn’t stick one all day.

- The hatred I have for Jake Stringer is at times unhealthy.
 
I sat up on level 3 yesterday and the main thing that stood out was the lack of running to provide an option for the ball carrier. Looked quite stagnant.

It is most weeks.

There is a serious lack of cohesion between when we win the ball with what we are going to do with it.

Our ‘system’ looks makeshift at best.

There are posts on here about us having dumb footballers. I disagree, we have poorly drilled footballers. It’s like this year has been all thinking chip chip chip slow ball movement because we’re trying to be surgeons. Or it’s been hey just go chase leather.

Neither have worked or will work consistently. There is no framework for consistent defence of quick ball movement, there is no framework for consistent scoring.

I’d be very surprised if most of our assistants aren’t let go at the end of the year with whoever coaches us bringing in some people they want.

The game yesterday played out basically as I expected.
 
Harsh on Taylor as well


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Curti Taylors owes me just over 400 bucks. All as he had to do was not fumble yet again and get the ball to Baileys Cott.
Who was waiting for it with his arms out, oh but not Mr Fumbles he bumbled yet another opportunity.

I had Bailey for 19.5 plus disposals he finished with 19 FFS. I did afford myself a giggle, but it summed up where Taylor is, poor decision maker with poor skills below his knees. I have said for ages now, Curtis plays like he's 6ft 7.

Now it will be interesting how a new coach sees it.

Next season, you'd hope we're finding room for Cunners, Comben, Phillips, pick #1, Young, Curtis, ( watch how he goes about it Taylor) Corr, maybe Goater, Bergman and Harvey.

THen factor in Larkey, JHF, LDU, Simpkin, Goldy, McKay, McDonald, Perez, Thomas and that's about it, so yes looking again Taylor will continue to get games.

Oh well
 
It is most weeks.

There is a serious lack of cohesion between when we win the ball with what we are going to do with it.

Our ‘system’ looks makeshift at best.

There are posts on here about us having dumb footballers. I disagree, we have poorly drilled footballers. It’s like this year has been all thinking chip chip chip slow ball movement because we’re trying to be surgeons. Or it’s been hey just go chase leather.

Neither have worked or will work consistently. There is no framework for consistent defence of quick ball movement, there is no framework for consistent scoring.

I’d be very surprised if most of our assistants aren’t let go at the end of the year with whoever coaches us bringing in some people they want.

The game yesterday played out basically as I expected.

I normally stand on level 1 so it’s not as noticeable. It’s good to sit up on level 3 every now and then because you can really see how the games been played. The amount of times we gave the ball carrier nothing except a long kick down the line was shocking.
 

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Having not attended for a number of weeks it was depressing seeing at ground level our poor hand and foot skills.

Unless Clarko is a skills magician, the only option is the Exit Door for another group
I think you’re wrong on this.

I wont write an essay on why, but it broadly comes down to the whole is more than the sum of its parts.

Basically, I don’t think players’ skills can be evaluated objectively right now. You think players are like robots, but strangely, they’re a lot more like humans.

When a player misexecutes these skills you think we need to turn over the list for, the execution relies on:
  1. Their general skill level (your point. Agree. Some players better than others.)
  2. Their composure. This can be improved, and Improves with system (the easier your teammates make it for you to know where you’re kicking/handballing, running patterns, leading into space)
  3. The pressure (both onfield and off)
Basically, good coaches and good administrations create clubs which make a very difficult game slightly less difficult.

I reckon it’s 15% difference between being 10th and winning a flag.

If what you were saying is true, teams would never rise up the ladder without a complete list turnover. But it happens.

All IMHO of course.
 
It is most weeks.

There is a serious lack of cohesion between when we win the ball with what we are going to do with it.

Our ‘system’ looks makeshift at best.

There are posts on here about us having dumb footballers. I disagree, we have poorly drilled footballers. It’s like this year has been all thinking chip chip chip slow ball movement because we’re trying to be surgeons. Or it’s been hey just go chase leather.

Neither have worked or will work consistently. There is no framework for consistent defence of quick ball movement, there is no framework for consistent scoring.

I’d be very surprised if most of our assistants aren’t let go at the end of the year with whoever coaches us bringing in some people they want.

The game yesterday played out basically as I expected.

Gasometer This is what I was saying above.
 
Considering the level of output from the captain, and Phoenix Spicer, which in combination we played two short, I thought we did okay

On top of 7 changes including 2 on the day of.

We smashed them in contested ball so at least you know we were up for the fight. It is just every outside of the contest needs work.

The end of the season cannot come quick enough.
 
I normally stand on level 1 so it’s not as noticeable. It’s good to sit up on level 3 every now and then because you can really see how the games been played. The amount of times we gave the ball carrier nothing except a long kick down the line was shocking.

It exacerbates practically every issue we have.

We don’t move so the kicker needs to put the ball somewhere then we have 4 blokes contest and no one down and they whip it away because that shit is easy to defend with system.

It’s not changing this year.
 

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Just reflecting on a few posts here and my thoughts now the pain has eased. Agree that our outs did not help. Contested ball wins very positive and probably the stats highlight. I feel we at least hd a crack, with a few exceptions, but in the end we were just undermanned. I see some positives.
 
I sat up on level 3 yesterday and the main thing that stood out was the lack of running to provide an option for the ball carrier. Looked quite stagnant.
A lot of people pointing fingers telling others where to lead to rather than just doing it themselves. Was super frustrating to watch yesterday.
 
The way the game played out makes sense when considering the outs we had.

We had pretty much a full on ball team - smashed them around the contest.

Our cohesion and run off half back was amiss. With outs in Perez, Hall, Young & Corr and the in's of a first gamer and first year player in Arch - that's forgivable. Either one of Hall or Perez is big in this regard.

No bringing the ball to ground, ground ball pressure, tackling in F50 and very few marks aside from CZ. With outs in Paul Curtis (one of our best across all these areas), TT & Mahony (even those who don't like him would acknowledge his ability to tackle and create F50 stoppages) our F50 hit up leads, link play into the F50 and ability to hold the ball in was awry. That meant we were badly exposed on the way out with 5 goals from D50 transition from the opposition.

So basically, we smashed em in the contest where we were near full strength. The 4 we had out across half back and 3 across F50 hurt us. There's the way the game played out.
 
Am hoping this continual domination by * over us is one of those streaks that goes **** up when the wheel turns and it matters.

A la Richmond getting tanned by Geelong for year after year until they broke through or Hawthorn winning the flags that both formed and then broke the Kennett Curse.
 
Am hoping this continual domination by * over us is one of those streaks that goes **** up when the wheel turns and it matters.

A la Richmond getting tanned by Geelong for year after year until they broke through or Hawthorn winning the flags that both formed and then broke the Kennett Curse.
What about us vs Melbourne? I think that is the model we want, tho without the decade plus of domination.
 
What about us vs Melbourne? I think that is the model we want, tho without the decade plus of domination.
Agree but I was meaning where the payback has been on the big stage for all to see.

Richmond killing Dangerfield on grand final day, Hawthorn breaking Geelong in 2008 and then in the ~2013-15 finals etc.

There was a period Geelong absolutely terrorised Richmond, it must've been fun for them to pay it all back.

A premiership that featured us dissecting * and Sydney on the way would be kinda nice in the same way.
 

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