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Interesting how the AFL media are quick to jump on blokes like Weitering etc. as not developing properly. Look at some of the other players from the same draft.
Schache, Francis, Weideman... What have they done?
Schache, Francis, Weideman... What have they done?
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#1s always get more scrutiny, just look at Jack Watts.
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Got it. So many others don't get it
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GAME 60 Rnd 17 - LOSS vs St Kilda (116-52)
14 Youth Players
Coaches Votes: 8 Patrick Cripps.
[Supercoach] Youth - AFL Player Ratings (+/- change)
[156] Patrick Cripps – 512.2 (+8.6)
[114] Charlie Curnow – 356.2 (+13.9)
[56] Sam Petrevski-Seton – 264.2 (+5)
[93] Zac Fisher – 270.8 (+12.7)
[52] Jack Silvagni – 190.5 (+0.1)
[64] Matthew Kennedy - 179.4 (+13.5)
[71] Jed Lamb – 144.2 (+1.5)
[40] Caleb Marchbank - 129.9 (+3.9)
[45] Paddy Dow – 114.1 (+2.1)
[50] Jarrod Pickett - 60.9 (+6.8)
[56] Harry McKay - 71.5 (+6.9)
[65] Lochie O’Brien – 42.7 (+7.2)
[15] Cameron Polson - 10.9 (+1.1)
Average: [64] 170.9
Game 60, of a 66 Game Rebuild, the marathon is almost over (if it will ever be over). The AFL Player Ratings are taking a dip, after climbing to a high after Game 57, our recent performances has sent the metre spiralling downward. The bridge created by our average player ratings is so perfect you could fit a troll under there to talk to kids.
My apologies for the lack of constant games updates, the end is coming up to be honest, i'm daunted by the though (but actually i've just been super busy).
Patrick Cripps soldiered on through a quagmire of limpless efforts the past fortnight. Against the Saints he had 35 disposals including his usual 23 contested possessions at 86% efficiency. He also had 10 contested, 1 goal and and a lazy 8 Coaches Votes. Charlie Curnow also had an astounding game as always. He had 16 touches, 5 marks, 5 1%ers and a goal. Zac Fisher has 22 touches, 3 clearances, 5 tackles and his standard excellent goal from 50m+. I can't go through every player but there wasn't a whole lot else going on.
There's big things brewing, the thread is culminating, and trust me THE BLUES are coming.
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nothing surer..........cept the delicious floury goodness of cake maybe............
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AFL Player Ratings - as at the conclusion of R17
Patrick Cripps - 16 (+2)
Charlie Curnow - 150 (+17)
Sam Docherty - 206 (-19)
Lachie Plowman - 215 (-1)
Zac Fisher - 261 (+18)
Jacob Weitering - 271 (-2)
Sam Petrevski-Seton - 273 (+5)
Jack Silvagni - 383 (-2)
Matthew Kennedy - 392 (+11)
Sam Kerridge - 394 (-6)
Nick Graham - 441 (-8)
Caleb Marchbank - 449 (+5)
Darcy Lang - 463 (-1)
Paddy Dow - 465 (+5)
David Cuningham - 489
Jarrod Garlett - 494 (-4)
Harry McKay - 522 (+15)
Tom Williamson - 525 (-1)
Jarrod Pickett - 549 (+11)
Lochie O'Brien - 590 (+15)
Harrison Macreadie - 610 (-8)
Ciaran Byrne - 639 (-2)
Pat Kerr - 653
Cameron Polson - 663 (+1)
Patrick Cripps - 16 (+2)
Charlie Curnow - 150 (+17)
Sam Docherty - 206 (-19)
Lachie Plowman - 215 (-1)
Zac Fisher - 261 (+18)
Jacob Weitering - 271 (-2)
Sam Petrevski-Seton - 273 (+5)
Jack Silvagni - 383 (-2)
Matthew Kennedy - 392 (+11)
Sam Kerridge - 394 (-6)
Nick Graham - 441 (-8)
Caleb Marchbank - 449 (+5)
Darcy Lang - 463 (-1)
Paddy Dow - 465 (+5)
David Cuningham - 489
Jarrod Garlett - 494 (-4)
Harry McKay - 522 (+15)
Tom Williamson - 525 (-1)
Jarrod Pickett - 549 (+11)
Lochie O'Brien - 590 (+15)
Harrison Macreadie - 610 (-8)
Ciaran Byrne - 639 (-2)
Pat Kerr - 653
Cameron Polson - 663 (+1)
Zac Fisher really has come on more than anyone could have realistically hoped.
Cripps Fisher Dow SPS LOB Kennedy - we have the basis of a decent midfield right there
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Having a great year, now at +233 for the season. A strong finish to the year could see him push towards that top 200 which would be a phenomenal achievement.
Wonder where he sits with regards to largest overall ranking increases across the competition, he's got to be close to the top surely.
For two years in a row we've had someone rise by more than 230 in the rankings, Charlie last year and Fish this year. Will be interesting to see if someone can do it in 2019.
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That’s a cop out
We had some mega failures withmature players drafted in
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Dow would seem most likely for sure, on the back of what looks certain to be a rise of 150+ spots in his debut season.
Keen to see what Kennedy and to a lesser extent Harry can do with a full season too.
If Fish can go up by 5 ranking spots a week for the remainder of the season while doc and plow drop by about 5 a week he'll be up 3rd behind Cripps & Charlie.
Fish is currently 11th (ahead of Weit & Samo) in our overall club rankings
- Cripps 16th
- Kreuzer 70th
- Ed 127th
- Simmo 139th
- Murph 149th
- Charlie 150th
- Wright 153rd
- Jones 170th
- Docherty 206th
- Plowman 215th
- Fisher 261st
- Weitering 271st
- Samo 273rd
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Charlie will maybe crack the top 100 this year … absolutely staggering.
Charlie is a gun and imo already a top 100 player in the league.
As a rankings system, I think it's such a flawed system though, Zorko is not the 4th best player in the league. There are not 200 players better than Docherty come round 1 next year.
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It should be rolling 40 games, but take the best 30 from that period. Therefore if you're injured, you still get a small penalty in that you have less sample size to get your best games...but you don't get a 0.
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Yep. 66 games to get the kids.
Kids dont win flags.
We were always going to need a couple of years development after the 3 years of heavy investment in the draft and losing senior players.
Like I said at the start of all this, 2016-18 were all just about getting the nucleus of the side assembled. The next few years we will switch to trades and free agents to fill in holes in that nucleus, while that nucleus develops.
Were a shot for finals in 2020 if we nail the picks in the 66 games and we manage to get in quality in 2019 via free agents and trades. Otherwise it's most likely going to be 2021 were back up the pointy end.
This is why we needed to trade Gibbs. We needed as many early picks as we could get in the important early phase of getting the bulk of that list assembled (the reset).
People who thought you could gut a list and replace it with 18-20 year olds and be in finals contention were deluded. It was a root and branch list cull and total reset.
Next year wont be much better than this year. Bottom 4 for near certain. But we should start to rise the year after or a year after that presuming we can attract talent over that time.
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Critical mass exactly the right word. We need 20+ players in a four to five year age bracket.
Thankfully were not too far off.
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AFL Player Ratings - as at the conclusion of R18
Patrick Cripps - 15 (+1)
Charlie Curnow - 150
Lachie Plowman - 215
Sam Docherty - 219 (-13)
Zac Fisher - 260 (+1)
Jacob Weitering - 268 (+3)
Sam Petrevski-Seton - 273
Jack Silvagni - 379 (+4)
Matthew Kennedy - 380 (+12)
Sam Kerridge - 394
Nick Graham - 436 (+5)
Caleb Marchbank - 444 (+5)
Darcy Lang - 462 (+1)
Paddy Dow - 465
David Cuningham - 492 (-3)
Jarrod Garlett - 508 (-14)
Jarrod Pickett - 518 (+31)
Harry McKay - 519 (+3)
Tom Williamson - 527 (-2)
Lochie O'Brien - 581 (+9)
Harrison Macreadie - 615 (-5)
Cameron Polson - 637 (+26)
Ciaran Byrne - 646 (-7)
Pat Kerr - 656 (-3)
Career best games from Pickett and Polson headline the movement this week, with both experiencing a significant jump up the rankings.
Kennedy was terrific too yesterday and the rankings reflect a strong game, albeit not his strongest for the club (can't have been far off). He's building a nice platform to launch into the preseason, and it's going to be interesting to track his improvement in 2019 with some continuity under his belt.
Cripps continues to rise too, up to 15th now, can he rise further before the end of the year?
Patrick Cripps - 15 (+1)
Charlie Curnow - 150
Lachie Plowman - 215
Sam Docherty - 219 (-13)
Zac Fisher - 260 (+1)
Jacob Weitering - 268 (+3)
Sam Petrevski-Seton - 273
Jack Silvagni - 379 (+4)
Matthew Kennedy - 380 (+12)
Sam Kerridge - 394
Nick Graham - 436 (+5)
Caleb Marchbank - 444 (+5)
Darcy Lang - 462 (+1)
Paddy Dow - 465
David Cuningham - 492 (-3)
Jarrod Garlett - 508 (-14)
Jarrod Pickett - 518 (+31)
Harry McKay - 519 (+3)
Tom Williamson - 527 (-2)
Lochie O'Brien - 581 (+9)
Harrison Macreadie - 615 (-5)
Cameron Polson - 637 (+26)
Ciaran Byrne - 646 (-7)
Pat Kerr - 656 (-3)
Career best games from Pickett and Polson headline the movement this week, with both experiencing a significant jump up the rankings.
Kennedy was terrific too yesterday and the rankings reflect a strong game, albeit not his strongest for the club (can't have been far off). He's building a nice platform to launch into the preseason, and it's going to be interesting to track his improvement in 2019 with some continuity under his belt.
Cripps continues to rise too, up to 15th now, can he rise further before the end of the year?
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