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Bidding War For Darcy Daniher

Seems Swans maybe be interested in Darcy.

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/bidding-war-looms-for-daniher/2007/09/05/1188783319904.html

IN 1986 Anthony Daniher was traded by Sydney after playing 115 games and went to Essendon, where he played 118 matches in red and black.

Coincidentally, 1986 was the first year of the national draft, and the timing of Daniher's move to Windy Hill, which allowed him to reach the 100-game milestone at two clubs, will this year have consequences he could never have imagined.

At the time, Daniher's son Darcy was but a twinkle in Anthony and his wife Jo's eyes, but this year the 17-year-old will become the first player to take part in the draft's father-son bidding system.

Under the system, youngsters who qualify for father-son selection because their father played 100 games or more at more than one club will have their services bid for.

With his father and mother both growing into their 20s, the family believes he might have a little bit of height left in him. And with his pedigree — his father played 233 games and was regarded as one of the best full-backs of his time — it is fair to say there has been plenty of interest.

Darcy was given permission to train with the Bombers about a month ago but has been waiting until a recent hamstring injury clears up and his school football commitments to finish at St Bernards, where he is completing year 12.

In the meantime, he has been a regular visitor at Windy Hill, sitting in on team meetings, meeting the players and walking and talking through training sessions with the assistant coaches. He will begin pre-season training once they return in October.

"I trained a bit with the side last pre-season so I know the place a bit but as far as memories from when I was a kid, I know I used to (go there) but I can barely remember it," Darcy says. "Dad retired in '94 so I was only five years old."

Not that Sydney has been dragging its feet in courting the young Daniher.

In Darcy's case, he must select between Essendon and Sydney, then the winning club must choose to accept the player by first nominating him as a father-son selection, then announcing what selection it will use to take him in the national draft.

From there, the losing father-son club and the remaining 14 clubs have the chance to bid against the winning club. The winning club then has the last bid should another club — or clubs — nominate a higher draft selection than the initial bid.

Darcy is a key-position prospect, standing 192 centimetres and 90 kilograms and playing centre half-forward for the Calder Cannons.

With his father and mother both growing into their 20s, the family believes he might have a little bit of height left in him. And with his pedigree — his father played 233 games and was regarded as one of the best full-backs of his time — it is fair to say there has been plenty of interest.

Darcy was given permission to train with the Bombers about a month ago but has been waiting until a recent hamstring injury clears up and his school football commitments to finish at St Bernards, where he is completing year 12.

In the meantime, he has been a regular visitor at Windy Hill, sitting in on team meetings, meeting the players and walking and talking through training sessions with the assistant coaches. He will begin pre-season training once they return in October.

"I trained a bit with the side last pre-season so I know the place a bit but as far as memories from when I was a kid, I know I used to (go there) but I can barely remember it," Darcy says. "Dad retired in '94 so I was only five years old."

Not that Sydney has been dragging its feet in courting the young Daniher.
 
Its unfortunate that this bidding system will effectively be trialled at our expense (or Sydney's, depending on Darcy's preference). If Darcy had chosen Essendon over Sydney we could've simply used pick 39 to pick up a bargain. Now we may have to use 23, conceivably 6, or even need to trade to attain another pick to use.

I don't think the system will work, given there is no real accountability involved, with clubs only hypothetically stating which pick they would give up. Naturally they will be more inclined to skew their bid higher than they would be to bid too low, and force the father-son club to waste a higher pick.

Interested to hear thoughts on this matter.
 

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Its unfortunate that this bidding system will effectively be trialled at our expense (or Sydney's, depending on Darcy's preference). If Darcy had chosen Essendon over Sydney we could've simply used pick 39 to pick up a bargain. Now we may have to use 23, conceivably 5, or even need to trade to attain another pick to use.

I don't think the system will work, given there is no real accountability involved, with clubs only hypothetically stating which pick they would give up. Naturally they will be more inclined to skew their bid higher than they would be to bid too low, and force the father-son club to waste a higher pick.

Interested to hear thoughts on this matter.

We actually have pick 6, due to the professional tankers.

There is accountability and any club that bids MUST take the player with their nominated pick if his club of choice doesn't choose to match the bid.
 
We actually have pick 6, due to the professional tankers.

There is accountability and any club that bids MUST take the player with their nominated pick if his club of choice doesn't choose to match the bid.

Oops.... meant 6.

So if a team bids first round draft pick 16 or 17, we would have to use 6 right..... not 23?

Not much accountability there, as holding the sixth pick is much more of an advantage than theirs.

Only alternative would be to trade for a pick closer to 16 or 17, but that would be pretty transparent and put us on the back foot come trade week.
 
I'm just glad to see that the player gets to decide which club he wants to go to, rather than it being up to the two clubs to fight it out with picks.
 
they've created another discrepancy, surely they should change it to a bidding war or cash or something, i mean if sydney chooses to tak him with 16 we aint gonna use pick 6.

holes holes holes, i cant see us getting him
 
last year we missed out on the first round PP because they'd changed the rules (which whilst disappointing, was the right decision, so we wear that); now we have to bid for our Father Son, when last year Geebung got Hawkins for a 3rd rounder.

Pass the sour grapes :mad:


yeah but according to the Fonz its all cool, the whole game is going to $hit and he just sits back and rides the gravey train!!!! We need Sheeds and Sam Newman running the AFL, these 2 are possible the best two pure footy minds around. I say this inspite of newman's bizare antics, he is incrdibly smart and knowledgable about the game (which is the reason people wanted him off air).
 
they've created another discrepancy, surely they should change it to a bidding war or cash or something, i mean if sydney chooses to tak him with 16 we aint gonna use pick 6.

holes holes holes, i cant see us getting him

Who said we had to use pick 6 ? Isnt the next best pick after 16 our second round pick ;)
 
Oops.... meant 6.

So if a team bids first round draft pick 16 or 17, we would have to use 6 right..... not 23?

Not much accountability there, as holding the sixth pick is much more of an advantage than theirs.

Only alternative would be to trade for a pick closer to 16 or 17, but that would be pretty transparent and put us on the back foot come trade week.
Seriously, this has been gone over so many times already but people still dont get it.

Firstly, if we are nominated by Darcy then we only have to use our NEXT PICK after the highest bid by a rival club. The pick we use does not need to be in the same round as highest bid, it just needs to be our NEXT DRAFT PICK.

Secondly, the entire bidding process takes place before trade week, so there can be no trading away of picks to lower the draft selection we take him with.
 

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Seriously, this has been gone over so many times already but people still dont get it.

Firstly, if we are nominated by Darcy then we only have to use our NEXT PICK after the highest bid by a rival club. The pick we use does not need to be in the same round as highest bid, it just needs to be our NEXT DRAFT PICK.

Secondly, the entire bidding process takes place before trade week, so there can be no trading away of picks to lower the draft selection we take him with.

Thanks for the answer Eccles... but calm down with the attitude.

Not all of us are across every thread on this site. This is the first thread I've seen on this topic and the question hadn't been addressed in here.
 
Seriously, this has been gone over so many times already but people still dont get it.

Firstly, if we are nominated by Darcy then we only have to use our NEXT PICK after the highest bid by a rival club. The pick we use does not need to be in the same round as highest bid, it just needs to be our NEXT DRAFT PICK.

Secondly, the entire bidding process takes place before trade week, so there can be no trading away of picks to lower the draft selection we take him with.

Calm down buddy
 
Thanks for the answer Eccles... but calm down with the attitude.

Not all of us are across every thread on this site. This is the first thread I've seen on this topic and the question hadn't been addressed in here.
I apologize for the agro... its been a long day, and this is now the 7th or 8th time I've written out this explanation of the system.
 
These rule changes all come into effect when we're involved :(
There are always hard luck stories. If I remember right it was a rule change that cost Adelaide being able to select Gibbs under the father/son rule.

I agree that in general this change probably disadvantages the team picking the father son selection, but in Darcy's case that may not be true. There have been differing views on his value, and this bidding system may see us only needing to commit one of our late round picks for him rather than forcing us to use a 3rd rounder like we would have had to previously.
 
we get robbed all the time lol. first our "priorty pick" goes to after the first round last year, instead of at the start of it. then we have to cough up at least a 2nd round pick for darcy.

we coulda had selwood! although knowing us we probably wouldnt have picked him.
 

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I've read this post from the start, byt for some reason when I just got home and opened a beer I thought this title meant there was a bidding was for the coaching services of Neil Daniher:eek:
 
I reckon we would have taken Jetta anyway.

And then Grigg with our second round pick.

Yep, there was talk of Sheedy pulling one from left field and picking up Jetta at 2- not really likely but they must've rated him crazy high. Sheedy said we could've got Selwood, but then again Sheedy says a lot of things. ;)
 
from all reports, its a million to one anyone including would risk their first round pick on Daniher, Im pretty confident at worst someone will offer their second round, which means we will get him with our third. Cant really complain if that happens.

In regards to Jetta, maybe someone can confirm this, but I remember reading around the time of the draft last sesaon that somebody from WA had rated him up there as one of the best aboriginal kids they had ever seen. Huge call obviously, a wrap and a half. When we got him when we did I couldnt really believe it.

If he can have a good pre-season and get over his problems, he along with davey as ground level forwards changes the whole structure and potency of our forward line something shocking. Really looking forward to it.
 

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