Official Club Stuff BREAKING: Luke Sayers steps down effective immediately (Jan 22nd)!

[Wickzki]

So far, his drafting has been conservative (not a criticism), selecting players I would describe as having high floors, but perhaps limited ceilings.

Trades have somewhat been similar, in terms of conservative

Needs to really go hard now to target known weaknesses, improving durability, speed and and better footskills

First, hammer right on the head here.

Just quietly, I get a real feeling that Austin and Cook suspected this year might happen. It's not something you ever want to say publicly, especially considering how long we've been waiting already, but just how they're going about it.

Durability is the big one. We hit that in the draft by getting the best endurance runner in the draft range we had. Ollie may never be a superstar but he's a safe 150+ game player (Collison injuries permitting).

In Acres we also got a guy who is durable. Isn't the most skilled player in the team but you can be assured he's going to be there more often than not (Collison injuries permitting).

This isn't bad considering we have half a dozen players who really struggle to get on the park. In fact, despite being critical of Acres inconsistency with his kicking, it's exactly what we needed. I believe we smashed the rest of the draft with a rough Cowan, Binns and the flyer in Lemmey.

Next step in list management is jettisoning those who aren't durable and strengthening it with durable depth and landing two or three super skilful pacy runners who we'd hope would give us a half forward line and a boost elsewhere.

I do believe the list will have a night and day difference to it next year and we'll be thankful Austin went the safe route to begin with to give it a solid footing.


As for Forty3 post regarding differences of opinion with Voss I argue that's where the rumor of Dimma or someone similar coming into assist him will come.

I agree that Voss is vocal and I actually appreciate that. If he's going to fall it'll be doing it his way. Given our past this is a step in the right direction. Now when we stick by him and get him the help that he needs he'll be better positioned to implement the strengths of the assistants in the program.

On Cook, this is a huge positive. Not only does it signify that there is more work to be done to get the club where he wants it to be but it also signifies that he believes that the club will actually get there or has every opportunity to.

If you've ever been in management and knew something wasn't where it should be and had no confidence in it then you'd know how easy it is to walk away especially when you're his age. This screams the opposite. This screams rolling the sleeves up, digging in and doing the hard work that needs to be done.

This is what the club needs.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Sounds like assistants are going into survival mode and trying to save their own jobs by turning on the main guy, very Carlton of them, let's hope the football department isn't falling for it, everybody needs to be held accountable including them.

2 of them have been at our club before…

 

[passmark]

It gets better. Ex AFP boss Mick Fuller (yeah ScoMo's mate) is now a PWC partner.

Nothing to see here, move along.

 

[Pablito]

Meeting of the five families tonight at the club. All I could hear in my head was the godfather theme watching that vision.

 

[norway blue]

Meeting of the five families tonight at the club. All I could hear in my head was the godfather theme watching that vision.

Vince will be the godfather4.


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[Blue_Hock]

Brian Cook wanting to extend (if true) is great news for us. However, there is a part of me thinking the clubs current state is worse than I thought and he feels he has to.

 

[RPCB]

Good.

Cook is the only bloke in the entire organisation who’s a proven winner.

Give him the keys and get the * out of his way!

Yeah, it’s good.

But is anyone sick and tired of always having to read emails from our President about all the problems at our club? It’s been going on for years and when will it end? I would rather never hear from Luke Sayers outside of different programs the club is running. That would show the club is stable for the first time in 20 years.

Browne thought that interview with Fitzpatrick was "significant"

Mike Fitzpatrick: : “I don’t really have a burning desire, no.”

Media: “He said the word “really” after “I don’t.”.

“Mike Fitzpatrick doesn’t rule out leadership tilt.”

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Nothing to see here, move along.

Just putting out the wheelie bins, allegedly.

 

[Coona Blues]

Brian Cook wanting to extend (if true) is great news for us. However, there is a part of me thinking the clubs current state is worse than I thought and he feels he has to.

Tells me Cook is invested, and that is the best news I have heard today.

No great problem for me if Fitzpatrick completes Dad’s Army with old fashioned, been there, done that values. This club is very close to where we want it to be, but there are clearly some significant barriers internally. Guessing Cook has it sussed out and calculating how to move forward with all of the varying factions pulling different ways. This world has become a very complex place to navigate. The best way to solve any complex problem is to break it down in to bite sized bits.

I am sure there are multiple ways to get where we want to be, some more simple and time effective than others.

 

[norway blue]

As an elite does he really know football at a grass roots level. Did he play for north Albury reserves. Does he have the club at heart. ????I’d prefer Bruce Doull.


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[DangerousD]

Having a very vocal and stubborn head coach, a previous list manager as head of the footy department, and the high up figures within the club still under the spell of his predecessor has somewhat limited his authority.
One could argue that this is on Austin for not being strong enough as a leader, but that would be very unfair, without understanding the handcuffs he’s had on him.

I would love to hear some more detail and context to the above, seems quite interesting g and important.

cheers for the info

 

[jpfalvo]

You are still missing the point JP, like most supporters

Tiger supporters wanted blood at the end of 2016, board, coaching, fitness, players, et, etc.

Nothing changed at board level in terms of people (I could be wrong)

The changes have started at board level, but that isn't the key to change our onfield output, not ours, not any club

I understand your point. This is a board thread for discussion on the board

But the Richmond comparisons for our malaise are not right from onfield perspective.

Hardwick had year on year improvement and 3 yrs of finals before 1 down year. The board challenge for them, wasnt needed, as they had a lot right with a smart Football CEO in place.

Thus board change not needed.

Whereas, with us, we have a board with members in place who have presided over in some case multiple coach sackings, CEO changes et al.

Ultimately, for us, the question goes back to, are the right people in place to make the right decisions?

Onfield performance continuing to have false dawns, eventually supporters start asking this question.



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[jpfalvo]

I guess that you are having a bit of a joke in forgetting the obvious but our current CEO Brian Cook has been In charge at club level for five premierships (2 at West coast and 3 at Geelong) whilst Brendan Gale has three to his name.

Does that qualify as "ilk"?

We have Cook now and all eyes go to him, to see what he will do. But he has 18mths to go on his contract. We will he lock in...

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[jpfalvo]

Isn't it only an internal investigation being run by PWC at present? If so I wouldn't think he'd be bound to stay in the country let alone step down from anything particularly since he doesn't even work there any more.

No its been referred to the Federal Police. This is a very very big deal

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[jpfalvo]

Not waving any flag Passy. Maybe I should say keep looking at anything to blame.

Make it easy for you. Remove the whole board, who do you enlist and what do they do next

Fire away

There is a whole thread on this.
Many great suggestions, have a read

Thanks to The Old Dark Navy's for providing a thread for that discussion.

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[BigFrizz36]

As an elite does he really know football at a grass roots level. Did he play for north Albury reserves. Does he have the club at heart. ????I’d prefer Bruce Doull.


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North Albury reserves were defeated in a low scoring game over the weekend by Myrtleford. Seniors won though.

 

[AlecDuncan]

So, Matho out, Fitzy in?

 

[Arr0w]

I understand your point. This is a board thread for discussion on the board

Yes i know, I am taking about the board

But the Richmond comparisons for our malaise are not right from onfield perspective.

I think it is, it's apt, like at the Cats under Thompson

Hardwick had year on year improvement and 3 yrs of finals before 1 down year. The board challenge for them, wasnt needed, as they had a lot right with a smart Football CEO in place.

So this could be Voss's down year. You might not think it was needed, but there were 2 separate tickets and supporters wanted blood, board as well

Thus board change not needed.

Maybe like ours, but we have one change so far

Whereas, with us, we have a board with members in place who have presided over in some case multiple coach sackings, CEO changes et al.

Yes, and where have we benefited with all these changes, yet other more successful clubs in recent timeshave resisted sacking coaches. Can't have it both ways

Ultimately, for us, the question goes back to, are the right people in place to make the right decisions?

None of us here would know

Onfield performance continuing to have false dawns, eventually supporters start asking this question.

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What question are you asking, what resolution do you seek to force improvement

 

[Arr0w]

There is a whole thread on this.
Many great suggestions, have a read

Thanks to The Old Dark Navy's for providing a thread for that discussion.

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I read it, not too far off this thread

 

[SurreyBlue]

So, Matho out, Fitzy in?

 

[windows1]

So, Matho out, Fitzy in?

I mean gee…..he may as well have said yes. That ‘No’ was excruciating.

Only question now is does he take over soon or at the end of the year?

Personally I think it would be enormous to have Fitzy as President. Enormous. He’s not a consultant that’s for sure. He’s a Premiership Captain and former AFL Chair. Think he’s be awesome.

 

[norway blue]

North Albury reserves were defeated in a low scoring game over the weekend by Myrtleford. Seniors won though.

Thnx 36. Love ovens and murray.


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[Wickzki]

I want to say this.

Mike Fitzpatrick is not a man to mix words.

He will tell you as he sees it and you will like it.

Biggest takeaway from the small interview that he did?

When he said the board isn't more united than what the media would want you to believe

Combine that with Forty3 news and you better believe this club is locked jn and aware of what they need to do off the field to get the on field where it needs to be

If it wasn't then your realistic big tickets would have the likes of Fitzy behind them.

Fix what needs work off field, support Nick Austin on getting the list right and this club will go places very quickly.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Comparing our board to Richmond's in 2016 is incredibly shallow...

So because they stuck with their board and it turned out well, we need to stick with ours? Bollocks!

Our board has continued to make mistake after mistake, (even the AFLW side of things is a disaster with players wanting out... coach sacked there too but that's another story...) sacked so many coaches, sacked a CEO, sacked assistant coaches, sacked a list manager, conducted a full external review of every facet, went through a 'process' for a new coach which was essentially get Clarko oh he doesn't want to come, let's get Ross oh wait do we really want him? oh let's try again for Clarko, damn he still doesn't want to come... shit we told them we want an experienced coach, who's left? oh Vossy, yeah he's the guy we wanted all along anyway!

And... after 8 years of rebuilding, we're still in bottom 6 territory...

Richmond's board had a 10 year plan and they stuck with their coach through thick and thin. Hardwick was their man and they went and got the right people around him when he was struggling. Furthermore, by 2016 they had experienced a few years of finals and saw improvement in each of those years... we've regressed yet again and you can't blame injuries this time...

The fish rots from the head down and unfortunately, it looks like we have another dirty crook for a president...

 

[Wickzki]

I mean gee…..he may as well have said yes. That ‘No’ was excruciating.

The way he said no was as much as saying to the journalist "you're not listening to a damn thing I'm telling you."