List Mgmt. Buckley "Mix up with Mayne recruitment".

[Hardas]

Mayne should be fired up today.

HIs dad sure was.

 

[Countrypie]

Having listened to the interview and then laboriously read through the reaction on various outlets including this forum, I honestly don;t knw what the fuss is about. Buckley said there was a bit of a mix up (You don't think?). Only in this snowflake world could we possibly have the reaction that we've had. Everyman and his dog knows the deal was a bad one for Collingwood. Everyone knows Chris Mayne is a decent enough bloke who does all the right things in terms of work rate and effort. It doesn't change the fact that someone at Colllingwood made a right royal faux pas. I very much doubt if the coach signs off on dollars and TPP etc. I think he stated the obvious.

It's time to build a bridge and get over it

 

[Captivating]

Having listened to the interview and then laboriously read through the reaction on various outlets including this forum, I honestly don;t knw what the fuss is about. Buckley said there was a bit of a mix up (You don't think?). Only in this snowflake world could we possibly have the reaction that we've had. Everyman and his dog knows the deal was a bad one for Collingwood. Everyone knows Chris Mayne is a decent enough bloke who does all the right things in terms of work rate and effort. It doesn't change the fact that someone at Colllingwood made a right royal faux pas. I very much doubt if the coach signs off on dollars and TPP etc. I think he stated the obvious.

It's time to build a bridge and get over it

Jesus....the coach should shut his pie hole and not talk about this stuff in public. I am staggered that Bucks could be so stupid here. What benefit at all is there in taking about Mayne and his contract, even if it is "the obvious". For someone with so called media nous, he royally ****ed up.

 

[Countrypie]

Jesus....the coach should shut his pie hole and not talk about this stuff in public. I am staggered that Bucks could be so stupid here. What benefit at all is there in taking about Mayne and his contract, even if it is "the obvious". For someone with so called media nous, he royally ****** up.

Did he?
Listen to the interview.

 

[noideaatall]

I'm sure I watched some interview with Bucks, 360 or something, in which he was asked about Mayne. He confirmed he was part of the group that selected him but had nothing to do with his terms. So nothing really new here at all. What doesn't make sense is why Bucks felt the need to say anymore. Did he make a mistake or was it deliberate? I am not convinced everything is running smoothly at the pies.

 

[Jafo]

God we payed him a pack, for how many games!

13 games. One more Damn it and we would have got a Father Son. Just one more!

 

[Help My Club]

That is exactly what a troll would say not even making an effort to conceal yourself, mods can you just ban this guy already.
Jasper84 384 is right on the money, you take a massive contract you need to live up to expectation. I'm sure there's internal pressure on Mayne from within the club, his ridiculous contract would be the cause of a bit of in-fighting of what would be players who are more (much) worthy recipients of that coin.

"....you take a massive contract you need to live up to expectation."

Couldn't agree more pal. Can you think of anyone else in the same boat? I'll give you a little clue. It's been going on for 6 years and then some.

 

[left at home]

13 games. One more Damn it and we would have got a Father Son. Just one more!

Looking back now on this,cannot believe we did not give him a fair well game
Such a champion for us

 

[Jafo]

Looking back now on this,cannot believe we did not give him a fair well game
Such a champion for us

I think more of a blight that we didn't make him Captain of our team of the Century.

 

[left at home]

I think more of a blight that we didn't make him Captain of our team of the Century.

Dam did think that, captain coach may be.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

As an aside but from this recent media storm in the teacup.

People always wishing wanting more "honesty" more being "upfront" from their Club, their coach, their players.

Someone is telling it like they see it, (and nothing not known or even controversial), and people see it as an opportunity to give the biggest whack they can.

And next time they will wonder when listening to another boring (eg player) interview*, why they can't just be more upfront etc....



* player interview eg:
"Yeh, nah, the boys played really well, we did it hard because we didn't want to let the fans down. We love the jumper. Last season's loss really burned in our guts... yeh, nah was great by the boys."

(Translated:
We did ok, mainly slack actually, but we know Brisbane is crap. Just went half throttle, but we have energy to chase some skirt, don't think we won't.
The fans. Those dumb idiots, we just pretend we love the silly jumper, so the morons who whinge all the time on social media will shut up for once, the great non achievers some of them are.
Last season Brisbane were still crap but we all stayed up playing cards we were stuffed when they beat us.
The team was ok, but I can't stand some of them anyway because they don't shower much.)

(The above is fake ofcourse)

 

[Big Bryza]

Hi guys.
I was left flabbergasted by the comments of Buckley when a bloke has 3 years to run on his contract.
Ok, it was an error, but to announce this?

Anyone who knows Mayne knows if nothing else this guy is a clubman. At Freo he ran starlight foundation projects and was a massive influence on community projects etc.

Bag him all you like as a player. We all do it and on the Freo board he'd have no shortage of posters tearing him apart.

Publicly? Not sure what to say about this in a respectful way but I never really liked Buckley and now that's he's got an extension and come out with this? I struggle to see how it's acceptable.

Where did Bucks say Mayne is a s**t bloke??

 

[Big Bryza]

Another disappointing article from Robbo's clone, John Ralph. l wonder how long it took Ralph to contact Mayne's dad to get a reaction to Bucks' comments in the hope he would bag the club and coach.
Ralphy how many Collingwood VFL games have you watched this year? Im tipping none.
So an article is written by ****** Ralph, telling us Mayne was dropped, not given an opportunity to do his thing and is a F50 defensive "specialist", so much so that the "suggestion" is Mayne can replace Elliott or Fasolo!!
Sorry to burst your non story article, Mayne at times in the VFL looked disinterested, couldnt get a kick, let alone lay a tackle and looked like a player who has come to the end of a career. After round 4 this year, the media were ripping Chris Mayne apart, and said he needed to be dropped. Some were saying AFL footy had passed him.
These articles written by those ******s Robbo and Ralphy, are just to dig it into Buckley, Eddie and the club.
Anyway its not Mayne's fault, he was signed to play a specific role, unfortunately for him other players have passed him on the list.
I cant see what role he could play, and where on the ground. Even if Fas gets his wish to head home to WA, then the club will trade to fill that role immediately, so Mayne is still behind the 8 ball.
I know Bucks' has put a line through Mayne, and l posted over 2 months ago the club were working out how to end their association with Mayne at seasons end.
Anyway, Ralphy write an article about Hawthorns' contract with Vickery, and speak to his mum or dad and get them to bag Clarko and the Hawks. Unfortunately it will never happen.

Jon 'Ralphy' Ralph is the biggest flog in the AFL media, which is a phenomenal effort!

 

[12kilos]

Who are these "Mayne lovers" that you keep declaring victory over?

If you were in this forum after last years trade period there were quite a few of of us that thought he would be a valuable acquisition. Also that it wasnt unreasnable the money that was spent on him or the length of his conrract, becouse he was a free agent.
In regards to the mayne lovers what can i say? i didnt put there names down in my little black book, or do i believe that in this forum we should be naming names. This forum is based on peoples predictions and opinion thats all.
Maybe the people that liked your answer to my comments were some of the mayne lovers maybe not.? Or maybe you also thought he was a good get as a free agent? maybe not.
Just look at my past messages from last years trade period were i baged Mayne's recruitement to collingwood, were many of us defended him and gave me crap. Also some of us supported my comnents.

 

[golazo]

If he came out and gave the same standard, boring response that almost every coach/player does for every single question aimed at them instead of being honest, people would be having a go at him for that. Bloke can't win either way

 

[Quicky]

As an aside but from this recent media storm in the teacup.

People always wishing wanting more "honesty" more being "upfront" from their Club, their coach, their players.

Someone is telling it like they see it, (and nothing not known or even controversial), and people see it as an opportunity to give the biggest whack they can.

And next time they will wonder when listening to another boring (eg player) interview*, why they can't just be more upfront etc....



* player interview eg:
"Yeh, nah, the boys played really well, we did it hard because we didn't want to let the fans down. We love the jumper. Last season's loss really burned in our guts... yeh, nah was great by the boys."

(Translated:
We did ok, mainly slack actually, but we know Brisbane is crap. Just went half throttle, but we have energy to chase some skirt, don't think we won't.
The fans. Those dumb idiots, we just pretend we love the silly jumper, so the morons who whinge all the time on social media will shut up for once, the great non achievers some of them are.
Last season Brisbane were still crap but we all stayed up playing cards we were stuffed when they beat us.
The team was ok, but I can't stand some of them anyway because they don't shower much.)

(The above is fake ofcourse)

I think you want honesty but you don't want to see someone kicked while they're down either.

 

[doodles98]

Having listened to the interview and then laboriously read through the reaction on various outlets including this forum, I honestly don;t knw what the fuss is about. Buckley said there was a bit of a mix up (You don't think?). Only in this snowflake world could we possibly have the reaction that we've had. Everyman and his dog knows the deal was a bad one for Collingwood. Everyone knows Chris Mayne is a decent enough bloke who does all the right things in terms of work rate and effort. It doesn't change the fact that someone at Colllingwood made a right royal faux pas. I very much doubt if the coach signs off on dollars and TPP etc. I think he stated the obviouse

It's time to build a bridge and get over it

There was nothing wrong with what he said in a factual or literal sense. He was being honest and as you say stating the obvious. But sometimes being honest and stating the obvious is the wrong thing to do. As Maynes coach, from an inter-personal professional perspective it was a big mistake.
The main problem I have with it, apart from the poor man management aspect, is that it was self serving from Bucks at Maynes expense. Essentially Bucks is trying to exhonerate himself from this right royal stuff up and blame Gubby and in the process has thrown a currently contracted player under the bus.
It was poor, but when you are under pressure in the media and answering questions off the cuff these things will happen from time to time. Interesting to see Mayne Play his best game of the year yesterday I thought.

Edit... It was also an unfortunate piece of timing... Just after a former player has accused him of lacking emotional intelligence.

 

[RGpies]

People on here and everywhere have been crying out for the club to give an explanation on what happened with the Mayne contract and who's responsible and buckley finally gives it; and he is now roasted for it, you can't win with collingwood supporters.

 

[Jasper84]

If you were in this forum after last years trade period there were quite a few of of us that thought he would be a valuable acquisition. Also that it wasnt unreasnable the money that was spent on him or the length of his conrract, becouse he was a free agent.
In regards to the mayne lovers what can i say? i didnt put there names down in my little black book, or do i believe that in this forum we should be naming names. This forum is based on peoples predictions and opinion thats all.
Maybe the people that liked your answer to my comments were some of the mayne lovers maybe not.? Or maybe you also thought he was a good get as a free agent? maybe not.
Just look at my past messages from last years trade period were i baged Mayne's recruitement to collingwood, were many of us defended him and gave me crap. Also some of us supported my comnents.

I guess I just see the term "lover" and assume that means someone who is in love with another. Not midly accepting and hoping they aren't terrible.

I had a look back and the worst I can see as far as bagging goes is CFC called one of your comments on list decisions "bullshit".

What I did see however was you pulling out the "Where are they now?" challenge on 3 separate occasions. Do you want these mystery people who have apparently dishonoured you to respond or not?

 

[DrDavoren]

Jesus....the coach should shut his pie hole and not talk about this stuff in public. I am staggered that Bucks could be so stupid here. What benefit at all is there in taking about Mayne and his contract, even if it is "the obvious". For someone with so called media nous, he royally ****** up.

Bloke can't win, I have no problem with what he came out and said, atleast he is being honest.
I would have thought yes Bucks had input into Mayne coming but the financials would have been up to Gubby and co, this is where any blame should lay.

 

[Countrypie]

There was nothing wrong with what he said in a factual or literal sense. He was being honest and as you say stating the obvious. But sometimes being honest and stating the obvious is the wrong thing to do. As Maynes coach, from an inter-personal professional perspective it was a big mistake.
The main problem I have with it, apart from the poor man management aspect, is that it was self serving from Bucks at Maynes expense. Essentially Bucks is trying to exhonerate himself from this right royal stuff up and blame Gubby and in the process has thrown a currently contracted player under the bus.
It was poor, but when you are under pressure in the media and answering questions off the cuff these things will happen from time to time. Interesting to see Mayne Play his best game of the year yesterday I thought.

Edit... It was also an unfortunate piece of timing... Just after a former player has accused him of lacking emotional intelligence.

Yeah I see that but whi is to say that frank nad honest discussions haven;t already been held with Mayne? WHo knows?

 

[soreplums]

500k per year. That would be base plus hitting targets ($300k base + $200k bonuses?). If this is somewhat he case, he wouldn't have achieved that in the 3 games he played this year.

With expected retirees and delistings in White and Blair, his cap space at least balances out. He may still be occupying a list space, but he might be better off for us at this stage than a fourth/fifth rounder.

If it was Blair v Mayne, I'd probably take Mayne

 

[Saintly Viewed]

People on here and everywhere have been crying out for the club to give an explanation on what happened with the Mayne contract and who's responsible and buckley finally gives it; and he is now roasted for it, you can't win with collingwood supporters.

That's a Bingo!

And to think everyone is sort of ignoring how Buckley said Maynes charachter as a person was terrific.

 

[TwisTz]

500k per year. That would be base plus hitting targets ($300k base + $200k bonuses?). If this is somewhat he case, he wouldn't have achieved that in the 3 games he played this year.

You would hope that there are heavy performance based clauses in his contract. I highly doubt it's as cut and dry as your guess though.

Would be nice if contracts were public so the media/us could quit the guesswork.

 

[noideaatall]

That's a Bingo!
And to think everyone is sort of ignoring how Buckley said Maynes charachter as a person was terrific.

Bucks was not criticising Mayne, though perhaps he should have been aware many would view/portray it this way. End product is it might put a rocket up Mayne, if that would help. If there was a criticism, as opposed to honest commentary, then it was of our clubs processes. A big step from what Bucks has been noted for in the past, mistake or intentional.