Carlton V Essendon

[ShooterMcGavin8]

Both teams look atrocious and for a couple of years to come, which list would you prefer ?

 

[j0rdy1]

Essendon and its not even close.

 

[SickQwon]

Essendon won't even have a list next year..

 

[De Iulio2Wiggins]

We're paying Daisy megabucks to sit on his ring and watch the footy, can't imagine what it's going to feel like to have to do this for twenty blokes

 

[Vindicater]

We could get multiple bans and our list would still be better than Calrtons.

Once the WADA stuff is done and dusted (bans or not) and Hird is shown the door I expect our players to once again start playing to their potential.

 

[The Blue Baggers]

carlton have a base to build , kreuzer , murphy , gibbs & cripps are all above anything the bombers have coming through

the bombers lack talent all over the park , and that is with a full list !!

 

[j0rdy1]

carlton have a base to build , kreuzer , murphy , gibbs & cripps are all above anything the bombers have coming through

the bombers lack talent all over the park , and that is with a full list !!

I'd take Heppell, Hurley and Daniher over those 4.

 

[juss]

Carlton. Essendon will be down for a few years, Carlton will rise quicker.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Essendon for me. They're better in the KPs.

 

[Monkey King]

I think Gibbs winning the B&F says more about the poor shape of your list than the quality of the base you are building...

Made the All Australian squad and was considered by some in the media as being stiff to miss a spot in the final 22. Was in good form last year, so I think this is just talking him down for whatever reason you have.

 

[j0rdy1]

Made the All Australian squad and was considered by some in the media as being stiff to miss a spot in the final 22. Was in good form last year, so I think this is just talking him down for whatever reason you have.

I just don't think he is as good a player as people make him out to be, his a good player. But he isn't an out and out superstar that you want to build a team around. Daniher/Hurley are/will be in the discussion for the best player in their position. Heppell already AA and a B&F he is well on his way to being a superstar midfielder. I just think their base is better than Carltons.

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

carlton have a base to build , kreuzer , murphy , gibbs & cripps are all above anything the bombers have coming through

the bombers lack talent all over the park , and that is with a full list !!

Kreuzer, Murphy and Gibbs are closer to retirement than their draft age, and by the time Carlton are competent again, they'll be in cushy coaching roles or boardroom jobs.

Heppell, Merrett, Langford, Laverde, Daniher. That's five proper young guns, Carlton have two (Menzel and Cripps) and one is reportedly fed up with the joint.

Throw in Essendon's considerable advantage in the key positions and it's not close, even if bans are forthcoming.

 

[The Blue Baggers]

Kreuzer, Murphy and Gibbs are closer to retirement than their draft age, and by the time Carlton are competent again, they'll be in cushy coaching roles or boardroom jobs.

Heppell, Merrett, Langford, Laverde, Daniher. That's five proper young guns, Carlton have two (Menzel and Cripps) and one is reportedly fed up with the joint.

Throw in Essendon's considerable advantage in the key positions and it's not close, even if bans are forthcoming.

gee whiz the bulldog supporters are more impressed with the bumbling bombers than Essendon supporters themselves

always suspected the bulldogs have western suburb envy of their northern neighbour !!

 

[The Blue Baggers]

Kreuzer, Murphy and Gibbs are closer to retirement than their draft age, and by the time Carlton are competent again, they'll be in cushy coaching roles or boardroom jobs.

Heppell, Merrett, Langford, Laverde, Daniher. That's five proper young guns, Carlton have two (Menzel and Cripps) and one is reportedly fed up with the joint.

Throw in Essendon's considerable advantage in the key positions and it's not close, even if bans are forthcoming.

huge laughs , if you are going to count daniher I will count casboult

big call on a couple of the others which have barely played

ps; if I were a bulldog I would be enjoying my team and not be too worried abt the blues & bombers which are both pretty s@#$%

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

gee whiz the bulldog supporters are more impressed with the bumbling bombers than Essendon supporters themselves

always suspected the bulldogs have western suburb envy of their northern neighbour !!

I don't know if envy is the right word.

huge laughs , if you are going to count daniher I will count casboult

big call on a couple of the others which have barely played

ps; if I were a bulldog I would be enjoying my team and not be too worried abt the blues & bombers which are both pretty s@#$%

Casboult has improved, but Daniher will be a top 5 forward in the competition, no doubt in my mind. Fair enough re Langford/Laverde, but Carlton just haven't got that sort of talent around, Menzel/Cripps aside. Of course, development is a huge factor too, but that's not exactly a point in the Blues' favour either.

I am enjoying my team's success, but I'm an AFL fan with an interest in every club. Hence my venturing outside of the Western Bulldogs board.

 

[j0rdy1]

gee whiz the bulldog supporters are more impressed with the bumbling bombers than Essendon supporters themselves

always suspected the bulldogs have western suburb envy of their northern neighbour !!

I still think both lists are utter garbage but I prefer Essendons if its only for Hurley, Daniher and Heppell. Both clubs are in for a world of pain for a few years imo.

 

[DrEvil_]

It's like having to pick between doggie poo or monkey poo....

 

[eth-dog]

If you did a combined 25 (because it seems like a good number) and under 22 about 20 of the players would be from Essendon. Then again, there'd only be 1 ruck (McKernan).

EDIT: I was a bit harsh, a few outside of Menzel and Cripps would be there. Might as well give it a shot (as of 21/08/15):

FB: Tuohy (Car) - Hurley (Ess) - Carlisle (Ess)
HB: Gleeson (Ess) - Henderson (Car) - Hibberd (Ess)
MF: Zaharakis (Ess) - Heppell (Ess) - Z Merrett (Ess)
HF: Menzel (Car) - Jaksch (Car) - Laverde (Ess)
FF: Edwards (Ess) - Daniher (Ess) - Colyer (Ess)
OB: McKernan (Ess) - Cripps (Car) - Docherty (Car)
IC: Langford (Ess) - J Merrett (Ess) - Ashby (Ess) - Graham (Car)

 

[MightyDons4]

If you did a combined 25 (because it seems like a good number) and under 22 about 20 of the players would be from Essendon. Then again, there'd only be 1 ruck (McKernan).

EDIT: I was a bit harsh, a few outside of Menzel and Cripps would be there. Might as well give it a shot (as of 21/08/15):

FB: Tuohy (Car) - Hurley (Ess) - Carlisle (Ess)
HB: Gleeson (Ess) - Henderson (Car) - Hibberd (Ess)
MF: Zaharakis (Ess) - Heppell (Ess) - Z Merrett (Ess)
HF: Menzel (Car) - Jaksch (Car) - Laverde (Ess)
FF: Edwards (Ess) - Daniher (Ess) - Colyer (Ess)
OB: McKernan (Ess) - Cripps (Car) - Docherty (Car)
IC: Langford (Ess) - J Merrett (Ess) - Ashby (Ess) - McKenna (Ess) (yes I know McKenna hasn't played a game but the kid's a gun)

Graham and Boekhorst should be in over Ashby and McKenna

 

[eth-dog]

Graham and Boekhorst should be in over Ashby and McKenna

Ashby shits on Boek, Graham I'll concede

 

[kade]

If you did a combined 25 (because it seems like a good number) and under 22 about 20 of the players would be from Essendon. Then again, there'd only be 1 ruck (McKernan).

EDIT: I was a bit harsh, a few outside of Menzel and Cripps would be there. Might as well give it a shot (as of 21/08/15):

FB: Tuohy (Car) - Hurley (Ess) - Carlisle (Ess)
HB: Gleeson (Ess) - Henderson (Car) - Hibberd (Ess)
MF: Zaharakis (Ess) - Heppell (Ess) - Z Merrett (Ess)
HF: Menzel (Car) - Jaksch (Car) - Laverde (Ess)
FF: Edwards (Ess) - Daniher (Ess) - Colyer (Ess)
OB: McKernan (Ess) - Cripps (Car) - Docherty (Car)
IC: Langford (Ess) - J Merrett (Ess) - Ashby (Ess) - Graham (Car)

Yarran at his best is clearly a better player than Tuohy, Gleeson, zaka, laverde, Edwards, Docherty, Langford, jerrett, Ashby, Graham. Yarran and Colyer are prob even.Obviously i didn't include key position players

 

[eth-dog]

Yarran at his best is clearly a better player than Tuohy, Gleeson, zaka, laverde, Edwards, Docherty, Langford, jerrett, Ashby, Graham. Yarran and Colyer are prob even.Obviously i didn't include key position players

I violently don't rate Yarran, but I'd definitely dispute Zaka and Tuohy. Tuohy is Yarran with defensive skills.

 

[Ambrosia]

I personally have Essendon ahead but realistically neither side has enough star/proven youngsters for it be clear either way.

 

[yyou]

have a soft spot for the Blues,
but would choose Bombers especially if they can retain Carlisle
better spine
can build mids easier than a spine IMO

 

[Donakebab]

Yarran at his best is clearly a better player than Tuohy, Gleeson, zaka, laverde, Edwards, Docherty, Langford, jerrett, Ashby, Graham. Yarran and Colyer are prob even.Obviously i didn't include key position players

Except the bloke can't even get a game. Talent means nothing when you've only got a pea for a heart and a few rocks rattling around your skull.