Review Cats hang on by 3 points to beat Pies

[frggr]

That's kinda the point. Exactly what was said about Kirsten

Sorry, I'll be less subtle

 

[you pick one]

Anyone got the coaches votes?

 

[you pick one]

Just shows where they are at. Mullins got 9 disposals to his opponents 28. Reminds me of Shane Kirsten a few years ago against Gibson and people celebrating on this board when he was flogged.

I certainly want more than 12 touches a game from Clark and don't see his gamr as anything but below average.

Some of us have standards I guess

The Kersten/Gibson thing started with the club/Scott the used car salesman who at the end of the year flogged the lemon off to Freo and the gullible Ross Lyon.

 

[cats_09]

Anyone got the coaches votes?

Not released until this afternoon

 

[frggr]

Anyone got the coaches votes?

I guarantee Nick Daicos 5

 

[Cataholic]

Just shows where they are at. Mullins got 9 disposals to his opponents 28. Reminds me of Shane Kirsten a few years ago against Gibson and people celebrating on this board when he was flogged.

I certainly want more than 12 touches a game from Clark and don't see his gamr as anything but below average.

Some of us have standards I guess

I think Mullin keeping him to just 3 possessions in the last quarter, when the game was there to be won or lost, was telling.

 

[you pick one]

I think Mullin keeping him to just 3 possessions in the last quarter, when the game was there to be won or lost, was telling.

Yep you will never stop a player of his quality from getting his share of the footy for 4 quarters though but what you can do is limit the influence of his disposals with pressure and perceived pressure exactly what Mullin brought to the table.

 

[Hinkley29]

I don't think many people are claiming Neale had a good game. He had a few good moments, particularly early on, but that's not the same thing. And anyone bagging Clark or Mullin is, I think, judging players on some pretty facile and shallow criteria.

Neale wasn’t outstanding, but he contributed.

And the fact that he did some good things early meant that Collingwood actually had to put some time into defending him for the rest of the game. That certainly helps the team.

I thought he was adequate in the ruck when required, which is kind of all we need.

 

[Hinkley29]

Luv to see how on Fox Footy now both Kingy and Joey are breaking down what the Cats are doing tactically under the guise of "CS is coaching well" but in reality they are making sure that every team and oppo scout out there is seeing what we are doing and putting us on blast just in case someone wasn't aware.

Sure, they still have to stop it which is another deal but still airing the dirty laundry gets a but old for mine.

Go Catters

C Scott and the coaching group are too smart for that. They are already plotting the next 6 moves.

 

[OzeSparky]

Dempsey hasn't been playing forward. He's been making those runs forward from the wing. It's a tactical move. Blicavs did it once from the wing in the first quarter too.

Crisp played on the wing and after the game said he was absolutely gassed from trying to chase Dempsey on those forward runs.

And when he was on Sidebottom he sat on his head. Sidebottom swapped to the other wing after that.

 

[Hinkley29]

You can't even get his name right.

we get it, names are important.

 

[OzeSparky]

C Scott and the coaching group are too smart for that. They are already plotting the next 6 moves.

Exactly. And every team should / would know how every team likes to play.

 

[cats_09]

I guarantee Nick Daicos 5

Josh should get a few votes

If his brother gets more than it should

 

[frggr]

Josh should get a few votes

If his brother gets more than it should

Yeah Josh is a bit overshadowed!

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

Yep you will never stop a player of his quality from getting his share of the footy for 4 quarters though but what you can do is limit the influence of his disposals with pressure and perceived pressure exactly what Mullin brought to the table.

100% on the money you pick one - not up for debate that Oisin quelled his influence substantially.
There's plenty of games that Naicos cuts the opposition the shreds , this wasn't one of them.

Mullins progression has been astounding. I've never been a fan of him in defence as , despite his athletic attributes , experienced small forwards are bloody crafty and difficult to defend even for elite defenders.
His power , speed and strength are perfect for a mid - he is suited to tag at the moment but eventually we will develop him as an attacking weapon as well - that's the Geelong way

 

[terry_bright]

Neale wasn’t outstanding, but he contributed.

And the fact that he did some good things early meant that Collingwood actually had to put some time into defending him for the rest of the game. That certainly helps the team.

I thought he was adequate in the ruck when required, which is kind of all we need.

It was probably the best performance he has had in the ruck.
Not saying he won the duel, or even split the points but his previous performances in the ruck have been horrendous.

 

[cats_09]

Yeah Josh is a bit overshadowed!

If on Brownlow night - 3 Votes: N. Daicos

Check the umpires bank account to see what money they have on it - I can see him getting a vote from McRae, but I'm also comfortable in saying there was more influential Collingwood players on the night than Nick

 

[someday-somehow]

Nothing, not once, has been said about us beating arguable the best team and premiership favourites with so many players with little experience.

Couldn't agree more with this statement. Geelong Football club effectively put up the middle finger to the face of the AFL for consecutive 6 day breaks, Collingwood's (and others) ridiculous MCG advantages and equalization and proved that heart and teamwork can overcome the odds. Fantastic effort for Geelong to even contest at this level given the inexperience in their side.

 

[fpm84]

If on Brownlow night - 3 Votes: N. Daicos

Check the umpires bank account to see what money they have on it - I can see him getting a vote from McRae, but I'm also comfortable in saying there was more influential Collingwood players on the night than Nick

Dangerfield and Smith were clearly the two best players on the ground and it will be an absolute injustice if this isn't represented in AFLCA votes and on Brownlow night.

 

[GlenMiddlemissed]

Neale wasn’t outstanding, but he contributed.

And the fact that he did some good things early meant that Collingwood actually had to put some time into defending him for the rest of the game. That certainly helps the team.

I thought he was adequate in the ruck when required, which is kind of all we need.

Neale 1 goal 8 disp 4 marks (3 contested) 2 tackles 3 hitouts 4 score involvements 251 metres gained 27 games

Cameron 1 g 11 dis 4 marks(0) 1 t 1 ht 4 si 242m 261 games

 

[Jumping Jack]

Interesting week at the selection table.

Out: Stanley - Humphries (injured)

Available: Stewart - Miers

Possibles: Knevitt - Kolo - Henry

Likely Scenarios: Stewart a straight swap for Humphries / Miers a straight swap for Wiltshire

Will be interesting to see what the club does in the ruck as the Stanley replacement. If Kolo / or Henry are back they're both a good match up for Stringer or Hogan. SDK or COS a good match up for Cadman. That potentially releases Blicavs to spend more time in the ruck. Briggs is a big unit but Blicavs will blow him up around the ground.

Personally I think we're getting to a point of thinking about sending Neale back to the VFL to work on a few things. If Neale plays he has to have the job of making Sam Taylor

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Sam Taylor

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

130.5

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.5

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

60.8

1star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.8

5star

MG

110.8

2star

accountable. Compete and bring the ball to ground - but don't let Taylor sag off and just get to other contest to chopout his defenders.

Toby Conway would have been handy if fit / available / or not locked in the rehab room.

 

[Jumping Jack]

Neale 1 goal 8 disp 4 marks (3 contested) 2 tackles 3 hitouts 4 score involvements 251 metres gained 27 games

Cameron 1 g 11 dis 4 marks(0) 1 t 1 ht 4 si 242m 261 games

Proof that stats alone are not always a great representation of a players contribution or impact. By most measures Cameron was in the best 4-5 players on the ground. Neale was nowhere near that.

 

[GlenMiddlemissed]

Interesting week at the selection table.

Out: Stanley - Humphries (injured)

Available: Stewart - Miers

Possibles: Knevitt - Kolo - Henry

Likely Scenarios: Stewart a straight swap for Humphries / Miers a straight swap for Wiltshire

Will be interesting to see what the club does in the ruck as the Stanley replacement. If Kolo / or Henry are back they're both a good match up for Stringer or Hogan. SDK or COS a good match up for Cadman. That potentially releases Blicavs to spend more time in the ruck. Briggs is a big unit but Blicavs will blow him up around the ground.

Personally I think we're getting to a point of thinking about sending Neale back to the VFL to work on a few things. If Neale plays he has to have the job of making Sam Taylor accountable. Compete and bring the ball to ground - but don't let Taylor sag off and just get to other contest to chopout his defenders.

Toby Conway would have been handy if fit / available / or not locked in the rehab room.

Who do you suggest we play to make Taylor accountable?

See stats above, maybe Jezza needs to go back to the VFL to work on a few things too?

 

[BotsMaster]

Does anyone have the last few minutes of the game with non-fox commentary?

 

[Vdubs]

They have, they lose to the Crows, then Dogs and the Swans loss today was their third, the issue is this mirrors last year where they dropped 3 in a row to Swans/Bombers/Bulldogs before they rolled us at GMHBA by 4 points. That said we were equally in dire form.

That said they haven't lost 4 in a row since 2022 and in years where they do that they tend to miss finals.
They do have a good run after the Geelong match though so losing to us doesn't mean the end for them, but I would love us to really complicate their season because they then play;
Freo who don't travel well @ ENGIE
Blues coming off winning their annual GF against us and then struggling @ Marvel
Tigers aka yellow and black percentage boosters @ ENGIE
Port who are wildly inconsistent @ Manuka

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