Changes for Gold Coast

[Scham]

Pav was cleared.

Then he comes in for Griff

 

[sherrif]

Not sure what you're on about. The "forward only" players had between 5 - 10 possessions each (Pav actually started in one centre square bounce). Walters had 13 but cycled through the midfield on occasion. Why single out our debutant? (effectively the first time Weller has been selected for a full game with no sub impact or resting of players).

Weller has earned the right to 5 senior games on the trot. Incidentally he didn't get gifted a goal - while it looked simple, without him choosing to accelerate on receipt, he wouldn't have scored. Mayne would not have scored as his inevitable hesitation would have seen the chance lost.

Surely you'd focus on the real issue - the game plan and then our long run poorly performing senior players like Mayne, Suban, C Pearce, Mzungu and now Barlow. The first four, along with de Boer, should now be Peel players and used as depth only.

The real issue is playing players who deserve to play. Weller was by far the worst offender at letting his man run twenty metres off him. It was one of the laziest performances I've seen from a dockers player ever and I've followed them since their inception. Im giving up though. Yep Weller is a superstar who deserves his performances because well, well. Ok Im out.

 

[free at last]

Bondy is on 6pr now

 

[sherrif]

I'll do some research when you learn to read.
Did you see where I said (If fit)?

I'm doubting you mental capacity if you think Weller was worst on ground. Our biggest issue yesterday was skills. Weller only had 5 disposals but at least each one of them was effective. Oh and he was the only player to lay a tackle in the forward 50, oh and he scored 20% of our goals. Yes it was a gimme but at least he was in the right place at the right time.

Your best mate Mayne 0 goals 0 tackles and ran at 60% DE. If you can keep up with the Maths that means 40% of his disposals were bad. I have never once said Weller had a good game. A 4th gamer was never going to have the game of his life when all of our A graders failed to turn up. But he tackled, scored a goal and the few times he got a possession used it effectively. Both Ballas and Mayne (both 100+ gamers) had worse games than him.

What exactly is a 4th game forward meant to do when our midfield doesn't fire. Fyfe and Mundy had 4 clearances between them!

Yeah Weller's the problem

Captain obvious comment here. Mora hasn't played for ages and hasn't even played for Peel in 2016 so pretty clear he is not fit. If you read my post my critique of Weller was based on how far he played of his man when the Bulldogs had the ball. Mental capacity? Yep Im sure Ive got you covered thanks. Mayne's not my best mate. I though he was terrible. I was responding to a post about Weller showing effort.

 

[DMan 11]

Sheriff, I think you're a quality poster and generally read the game well - but history shows when you get your back up about something you tend to defend it beyond the point of reason.
I think this is where you're heading with Weller now - perhaps let it go mate ...
To say it was the one of the laziest efforts by a Fremantle player in history is plain absurd .

 

[Scham]

I'm not trying to be smart but has anyone from the club actually said that Jonno will definitely play this week or are there some assumptions being made in this thread?

 

[sherrif]

Sheriff, I think you're a quality poster and generally read the game well - but history shows when you get your back up about something you tend to defend it beyond the point of reason.
I think this is where you're heading with Weller now - perhaps let it go mate ...
To say it was the one of the laziest efforts by a Fremantle player in history is plain absurd .

Yep, fair point. My original point was that Weller didn't play as well as most on here was saying. He did look lazy at times to me. Ill leave it at that and offer an agree to disagree with Unique Name and a peace offering.

 

[Unique Name]

Sheriff, I think you're a quality poster and generally read the game well - but history shows when you get your back up about something you tend to defend it beyond the point of reason.
I think this is where you're heading with Weller now - perhaps let it go mate ...
To say it was the one of the laziest efforts by a Fremantle player in history is plain absurd .

FWIW sherrif I also enjoy your reports and I also think you are a quality poster.
The whole team was terrible bar Dawson. I'm just placing more blame on our A graders than the younger players who I don't expect to be great when the team doesn't play well.

 

[Grape Bear]

Bondy is on 6pr now

Please summarise. Thank you in advance!

(Why isn't Ross?)

 

[Lach72]

Cue? Meet rack

 

[meima]

I'm not trying to be smart but has anyone from the club actually said that Jonno will definitely play this week or are there some assumptions being made in this thread?

I think from Ross presser after WB game.

 

[sherrif]

FWIW sherrif I also enjoy your reports and I also think you are a quality poster.
The whole team was terrible bar Dawson. I'm just placing more blame on our A graders than the younger players who I don't expect to be great when the team doesn't play well.

Fair point. Sorry if I came across more personal than intended. I can admit when I have gone over the top with responses. That was the case in this thread. My point Weller was not a star who didn't give great effort got lost. I wasn't comparing him to other players. I enjoy your posts too.

 

[Unique Name]

Please summarise. Thank you in advance!

(Why isn't Ross?)

I imagine Ross is struggling right now wanting to take control over ever aspect like he is used to doing. He said he struggled after the Mt Barker game letting the cobblers (Assistants) do the cobbling.

 

[Unique Name]

Cue? Meet rack

I feel sick.

 

[Lach72]

Esti had heard during the week it was 6-8...let's hope it's that

 

[Lach72]

I feel sick.

Yep.
We're going nowhere. and it's incumbent on those running the show to develop the younger kids now

 

[Lach72]

Johnson definitely back in

 

[Randomizor]

Cue? Meet rack

God ***** damnit

 

[ChimpaWompa]

From the very start they were being very coy about Bennell playing this year... "wanting him to be a long term player" and all that.

 

[Scham]

Ballas and Mayne have been frustrating to watch in recent times, I admit. But I don't think things are as simple as just swap Mayne for Crozier (no obvious candidate for ballas).
Bulldogs practically walked out of our forward 50, and their quick movement forward killed us before we had time to setup our defense.
Then look at how much difficulty we had moving the ball out of our defensive 50. Once we turn the ball over, it's a quick score for them. This looked exactly like how we play early last year!
If anything, we need more tackling and pressure up forward, not less.

That said, the defensive pressure in the forward 50 should not just fall just onto these 2. The rest of the forwards need to pick up the slack. Not saying their performance is anything except poor yesterday, but anyone will look like an idiot running around aimlessly if non of their other teammates do their job at least covering space.

I'd have Grey as the closest comparison but whilst Balla's kicking isn't great, Brady's is worse. IMO Tucker could also play the role effectively if need be.

 

[Talking Dockers]

RTB needs to aim for 5th-8th at best by playing the likes of Collins, A.Pearce, Langdon, Weller, Blakely & Grey. We were exposed for leg speed and quick ball movement and if he keeps flogging the same horses he will finish much lower. Experiment with Mayne down back because he is not producing up forward.

Also put mark stone back in charge of stoppages

 

[Lach72]

Yeah...that Peel game gives us a taste, then it's up in smoke...
Palmer blows a knee, Mora three, Barlow snaps his leg robbing us of his best years...Pitt, Simpson...

Swear we're ****ing cursed

 

[Rion]

If that game doesn't result in changes I think we are in for a long year. For me it'd be.

Out: Mayne, Griffin, Mzungu, Pearce
In: Langdon, Johnson, Alex Pearce, DeBoer

Would bring DeBoer in and play him only as an inside mid along with Barlow who's probably got enough credits in the bank. Hope Sutcliffe has also played his last game in defence. Might be able to rediscover some form with some more midfield time.

 

[Lach72]

If that game doesn't result in changes I think we are in for a long year. For me it'd be.

Out: Mayne, Griffin, Mzungu, Pearce
In: Langdon, Johnson, Alex Pearce, DeBoer

Would bring DeBoer in and play him only as an inside mid along with Barlow who's probably got enough credits in the bank. Hope Sutcliffe has also played his last game in defence. Might be able to rediscover some form with some more midfield time.

We planning on hitting fewer targets this week

 

[E Shed]

Bond said precisely nothing on 6PR. Expect MJ to be fit, no word yet on Harley.
Other than that he mouthed platitudes and they let him get away with it.
When asked about Langdon etc coming in and freshening up the side he said a bunch of stuff that had nothing to do with the question and they didn't follow it up. Politics 101. Same with the question about not scoring enough.
Really lame interview. At least with Ross he gives you something.