Strategy Changes: Round 18 Freo vs Hawks

[groggm]

Knowing Serong will cop a tag 100%, why not plonk him in a forward pocket and try something different in the midfield - he might even snag a couple of goals he has shown a knack for it previously

 

[Cesoir]

A lot of our players don't have the cohunas and/or skill to kick it to him. Let's face it when they do it's either too high or in the dirt or to the defender's advantage..

The other side of that equation is that Jye seems to have developed some bad habits. Firstly he decelerates before the ball gets to him at times, allowing his defender to impact the contest. Secondly, he doesn't seem to want to take the ball in his hands, opting to try to mark on his chest. Again, this allows the defenders to impact the contest.

He just needs to watch the way Josh Tracey attacks the ball on the lead - flat out and takes the ball out front in the hands.

 

[Paracleet]

Lol it’s almost too evil …. even for me

Jye Amiss = Jack Anthony

I wouldn’t say it’s common but it happens more than people want to admit players burst out of the blocks and then never reach that standard again

Anthony looked like a superstar in his fist 2 years at the pies , similar type of player to Amiss as well

The worst kind of players too because you often overpay them based on their early form and end up with an overpaid list clogger

We’ve had a few @ Freo
Connor Blakley
Lachie Weller
Daniel Gilmore

Conversely players can start fast hit a flat spot for a couple of years and then re-ignite but accuracy aside Amiss’s inability to win a 1on1 contest deep even if he gets a mismatch is alarm bells for mine

Fmd

 

[Alfonz]

Knowing Serong will cop a tag 100%, why not plonk him in a forward pocket and try something different in the midfield - he might even snag a couple of goals he has shown a knack for it previously

I wouldn't be so sure he will get tagged. There might be a defensively minded role (e.g. Nash), but I'd be surprised if it is a hard tag. The Hawks didn't tag Daicos or Neale (or anyone else) for example. If they want to run a hard tag, then it might disrupt their normal method of playing. Good teams often back themselves and don't run hard tags.

 

[mike91]

Your dreaming. JOM came on in the 4th quarter and had more impact than Erasmus. Erasmus still has low game time, why? Apparently he's young and full of vim and vigour?

JOM also played better than our whole midfield. Using your logic, Serong, Andy, MJ can get stuffed?

We get it, you don't rate him. But at least come up with better garbage than this

 

[mike91]

We're playing Raz to up his trade value in a season where we need to make finals and JLs job possibly on the line.

Because that makes sense.

Nuffie logic going extreme levels here

 

[The Feeder Club]

I think the Sutcliffe/Sheridan level is the ceiling for Erasmus and probably Johnson.

They're both lucky that Fyfe, JOM, Young and O'Driscoll have missed a lot of footy this year.

I would use Suban as a closer analogy. It's just hard to believe for me that Serong is getting worn closer than a cheap safari suit each week, and we don't have Erasmus playing the same role Subes used to play.
He seems ideal for it

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

The worst part about Freo losing is the loss itself.

The 2nd worst part about Freo losing is Brodie suddenly becomes a superstar. Hasn't played for over 2 years, not even a crumb of interest from other clubs, and these days only plays well against bad WAFL teams. Absence truly makes the heart grow fonder it seems.

 

[ubiquitous226]

Team we're short on previews for both this week and next week vs Collingwood, who's keen to have a crack?

Win Prizes - Season 2025 Game Previews

Happy New Year to all who celebrate and observe! As is tradition, I am running comically late in wrapping up the Poster of the Year competition and 2025 is no exception. We had 15 outstanding previews presented to us, so I want to start off by giving a huge thank you to heavho mattis117 King...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Bud]

Swap Amiss for Cox forward to back.. Amiss will channel the other great full forward who we turned into an elite full back Chris Tarrant

Chris Tarrant

Age

45

Ht

193cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

3.2

1star

K

2.6

1star

HB

0.6

1star

M

1.2

2star

T

1.8

4star

.. Cox can play loose as he does forward and run at the footy .. Amiss needs a task and is fit enough to do it

 

[Madas]

How is Johnson escaping any attention at the moment.

I've got Ras ahead of Johnson now.

 

[BeinPurplenGreen]

Team we're short on previews for both this week and next week vs Collingwood, who's keen to have a crack?

Win Prizes - Season 2025 Game Previews

Happy New Year to all who celebrate and observe! As is tradition, I am running comically late in wrapping up the Poster of the Year competition and 2025 is no exception. We had 15 outstanding previews presented to us, so I want to start off by giving a huge thank you to heavho mattis117 King...

www.bigfooty.com

Can I do back to back previews or does that guarantee another pathetic selection committee decision?

 

[jakefooty23]

Will Amiss actually get dropped though? Voss was the one that got subbed off after all, may need the extra height vs the Hawks aswell.

The reason we lack forward pressure is because Switta is injured and Shai has been used further up the ground. Unfortunately neither one of Freddy or Reid are great pressure forwards.

Walker should come in this week, but who for? Banfield has been solid but i don't see who else he comes in for.

 

[swanny1234]

My concern is the other message it might send to him. At the moment he's doing a mountain of work leading up the field and getting ignored time and time again (people are right that it's staggering to see live how many times he's metres free of his man only for his teammates to not hit him up - he would rack up the touches in a team like Collingwood or Hawthorn who bite off that kick instinctively).

So he does all this selfless running for the team only to be told his reward for sticking to his role is to go back to the WAFL, then what happens when he comes back? Why would you want to be the one doing the sacrificial leads to make space for the other forwards behind you? Why would you want to be the one who blocks Treacy's man so he can run out on the lead? If the only thing being valued is the amount of times you get the ball then everyone is just going to sit back wanting to be the one sitting in the hotspot where we always (infuriatingly) kick it high and long.

For years I said I thought Tabs was a net negative to the team despite kicking goals because he had no concept of working within a system with other forwards and would invariably drag his man to the ball even if it got in everyone else's way. We have much smarter forwards now who are much more capable of working as a cohesive unit and I'd be wary of sending the wrong message to those who are working hard but not getting their 'lick of the icecream' for a period.

Whilst I understand that, ultimately a forward is there to finish his work, and Amiss simply isn't doing it. You have to question why his lead isn't often honoured? Do the players have less confidence in him than in Treacy or Voss?

I don't see being dropped to the WAFL as a punishment, I see it as a vital part of his development, go back, find some form, build some confidence, then return anew.

I consider this similar to a batsman that is out of runs, sometimes dropping them to Shield cricket is the best thing for them, instead of continuing to persist like they did with Marnus Labuschagne, and I feel Amiss right now is the Dockers version of Marnus - at his best he is clearly in our best side, but right now he's so lacking in confidence, he needs a spell in the WAFL.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Knowing Serong will cop a tag 100%, why not plonk him in a forward pocket and try something different in the midfield - he might even snag a couple of goals he has shown a knack for it previously

because then you lose your best clearance middle.

Hawks have already won the battle.

The best option I can think off, is to get him to tag another Hawks player.

If Serong is still getting tagged, then it means two hawks are close together leaving a fremantle player in space. It would also upset the Hawks setup in the middle, and may allow us to get some damaging (straight out the front) clearances.

Obviously, it only works if we have other mids who can do the job, so then it is up to Erasmus, JOM, Brayshaw and Bolton to lift from the get go.

 

[malpaso]

JOM also played better than our whole midfield. Using your logic, Serong, Andy, MJ can get stuffed?

We get it, you don't rate him. But at least come up with better garbage than this

You think Erasmus is better than JOM? Good luck.

 

[ubiquitous226]

Not paywalled, JLo is publicly signalling Amiss needs to do more but not currently going to be dropped.

‘We probably expect more’; Longmuir puts heat on Amiss

Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir has conceded the team needs more out of misfiring forward Jye Amiss as he teased a return for Hayden Young within the next fortnight.

thewest.com.au

 

[ubiquitous226]

Can I do back to back previews or does that guarantee another pathetic selection committee decision?

Even an unofficial preview would be great!

 

[go_the_dockers]

Not paywalled, JLo is publicly signalling Amiss needs to do more but not currently going to be dropped.

‘We probably expect more’; Longmuir puts heat on Amiss

Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir has conceded the team needs more out of misfiring forward Jye Amiss as he teased a return for Hayden Young within the next fortnight.

thewest.com.au

This video backs it up. I assume the article is based on the video.

Switta -hopeful to play this week, if he gets through training then I expect we will pick him.

 

[fleur]

Voss missed a sitter too. A few of the players did, but all the blame is being put on Jye

 

[ubiquitous226]

This video backs it up. I assume the article is based on the video.

Switta -hopeful to play this week, if he gets through training then I expect we will pick him.

Yeah it references 7 news so I assume it was one of the regular segments, I just personally don't watch videos as much.

 

[ubiquitous226]

Voss missed a sitter too. A few of the players did, but all the blame is being put on Jye

Voss in general has had reduced impact over the last few weeks as well, he's still doing some nice things like Amiss but I also personally believe our best mix will be one less tall whoever that is.

 

[chaosball32]

Voss in general has had reduced impact over the last few weeks as well, he's still doing some nice things like Amiss but I also personally believe our best mix will be one less tall whoever that is.

Voss has had a quiet 2 games, Amiss has been quiet pretty much all year. Let’s not forget Amiss has also played more than 3x as many games as Voss has, so you’d be expecting greater output.

If Voss gets dropped and Amiss keeps his spot I give up on JL. Would prove there is zero selection integrity.

 

[fleur]

Voss in general has had reduced impact over the last few weeks as well, he's still doing some nice things like Amiss but I also personally believe our best mix will be one less tall whoever that is.

Pat’s had less of a role since Sean’s been back, but yes, it’s much of a muchness between him and Jye whenever Sturt is available.

 

[thistimeforsure]

Voss missed a sitter too. A few of the players did, but all the blame is being put on Jye

I doubt there’s been a player in worse form who’s played every game in the entire competition

This protected species crap isn’t doing him much good