Changes v Sydney

[badbeats]

Why do I get the feeling a late change is coming?

 

[Ralph Lorenz]

I'm sort of glad they kept Neade in the side for this week. Sure, he had a stinker last week but he's shown how he can impact a game. He needs to take that step forward to become more consistent though. Once he manages that, he could be anything.

Hopefully with our less constricting opposition this week, he finds a bit more of it and has some good I50's.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Surely if there was any doubt then Young would have got the call up. Probably has more to do with 5 underdone players being 1 too many for comfort and Gus was the obvious choice out of Wingard, Hartlett, Trengove and Ryder.

I get that, one of those 5 had to be sub, but it was what Gus didnt do in the quarter he was on that makes me questions how fit he is.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

You could be right here about Kenny... However I don't really see Burgo as a risk taker and I am pretty sure this side of things comes down to his call, not so much Kenny's.

Burgo aint on the selection committee. He might not have been asked - can Redo go 90% of the game time in the ruck? That is fully match fit. Burgo was probably asked a few different questions and based on his answers things were balanced up.

 

[SureBuddy]

Burgo aint on the selection committee. He might not have been asked - can Redo go 90% of the game time in the ruck? That is fully match fit. Burgo was probably asked a few different questions and based on his answers things were balanced up.

I know he isn't on the selection committee, but there is no way Kenny would be picking a player than Burgo hasn't endorsed to be fit enough to run out a game.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I know he isn't on the selection committee, but there is no way Kenny would be picking a player than Burgo hasn't endorsed to be fit enough to run out a game.

But you are stuck in this mindset that he has to be able to spend 90% of time on the ground going flat out like a mid fielder. He doesnt. Ken and co. would go to Burgo with a few scenarios. Burgo would say which ones Redo could handle completely and which ones he wouldnt. Then Ken and co. have to make decision about how much risk they want to take.

If the base scenario is we want him to start in the forward pocket be able to put pressure on his defender for the first 20 minutes, then ruck the last 8 to 10 minutes of the quarter, then for the next 2 quarters we mix it up between forward line and the bench but has to ruck for 8 to 10 minutes for both of those 2 quarters then subbed off for the last, then Burgo has obviously said yes. If the extreme scenario is that he has to ruck 90% of the game then I reckon Burgo would have said no. So the selection committee then assess the risk of the in between scenario's happening and Burgo probably has in put into that.

If Ryder goes off the ground for the rest of the game after 5 minutes of play then I have no doubt we will be stuffed and Redo will be extremely fatigued in the last quarter.. But what is the percentage that is going to happen? 1%? Ken would be prepared to take that risk IMO.

 

[SureBuddy]

But you are stuck in this mindset that he has to be able to spend 90% of time on the ground going flat out like a mid fielder. He doesnt. Ken and co. would go to Burgo with a few scenarios. Burgo would say which ones Redo could handle completely and which ones he wouldnt. Then Ken and co. have to make decision about how much risk they want to take.

If the base scenario is we want him to start in the forward pocket be able to put pressure on his defender for the first 20 minutes, then ruck the last 8 to 10 minutes of the quarter, then for the next 2 quarters we mix it up between forward line and the bench but has to ruck for 8 to 10 minutes for both of those 2 quarters then subbed off for the last, then Burgo has obviously said yes. If the extreme scenario is that he has to ruck 90% of the game then I reckon Burgo would have said no. So the selection committee then assess the risk of the in between scenario's happening and Burgo probably has in put into that.

If Ryder goes off the ground for the rest of the game after 5 minutes of play then I have no doubt we will be stuffed and Redo will be extremely fatigued in the last quarter.. But what is the percentage that is going to happen? 1%? Ken would be prepared to take that risk IMO.

I never had it stuck in my mind that he was going to play 90% as a flat out midfielder dude. I said you could confidently assume he could run out the full game if it was required, otherwise they wouldn't pick him. However that full game certainly does not mean he has to ruck the entire game and not spend spells up forward resting and on the bench.

Anyways, just super damn excited to see the big red run out and Ryder up forward.

 

[Kickpuncher]

Would like to see Redden become a full time forward when Lobbe returns. Could be our replacement for Schulz when he finally hangs up the boots.

 

[chimmez]

Is there any chance that this move has been made because Ryder can also play the tall half-back role that Butcher cannot? This could provide us another tall option if Tippet / Franklin get off the chains somehow.

I'd imagine that Redden would be starting in the ruck and taking around 50-60 percent of the load, but this move has also provided us with the extra tall defender if we need one.

 

[Power Raid]

It's great to see redden back

Before his injury he was our first choice ruck

 

[Power Raid]

But still not enough Krak in the selection for my liking

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

What are the changes

 

[RossFC]

What are the changes

Redden in for Butch

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

Redden in for Butch

Wow wow wow

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

Massive fan of young from day 1...

Why is out all the time

 

[*PAF]

Sydney's big weapon is their tall forward line.
If we stretch them they may be forced to change their structure and we cannot afford to have Trengove spending time in the ruck.

Trengove plus one of Wetshoff/Ryder dropping back will give us plenty of height if needed. That can only be done if Lobbe or Redden play.

 

[edgie]

Redden too early.

Hate to say I told you so...

 

[Forzaport]

Redden too early.

Hate to say I told you so...

Not exactly surprising. I think the coaches were hoping he'd offer more than what he did but he really should have returned via the SANFL.

Anyway, this discussion is better in another thread.