Phantom Draft Chris25's 2009 Phantom Draft

Anjahads · Aug 23, 2009

adagio said:
Judging by Woosha's comments, I'd say this is actually a very likely pick for us.

Hi Adagio,
Could you shed some light about Rohan?I have been trying to find some info about him but have had no luck.I did read some people rate him a top 5 pick.Lucas sounds like he might be somewhere between a 5-10 pick.

Cheers

EagleMan87 · Aug 23, 2009

Anjahads said:
Hi Adagio,
Could you shed some light about Rohan?I have been trying to find some info about him but have had no luck.I did read some people rate him a top 5 pick.Lucas sounds like he might be somewhere between a 5-10 pick.

Cheers

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2009/06/01/74775_geelong_sports.html

Good article about him.
Other than that
- He was named on a HFF in the Under-18 AA side this year
- 186cm, 79kg
- Played as FB in the lower leagues
- High X-factor, as well as forward pressure/tackling
- Is a ranga

And finally this from the main phantom draft thread:

LukeHodge15 said:
Love this kid, electric quick game breaking tallish midfielder. What sets him apart from so many is he can get to top speed within 2 steps (Like quickstep Judd bursting from a pack).

The thing that stands out with Rohan is his scope for improvement is just outa this world and his high intensity suggest that he could obtain his potential. Similair to Hill of last year, when u are 2.8 quick and have extreme talent, especially at 186cm. Ur AFL positions are endless.

Cunnington would have been the safe selection but i just think Rohan could end being a "delicious" game breaking player

adagio · Aug 23, 2009

^^ What he said

As I've said previously, I certainly don't profess to be any kind of expert, e.g. I don't follow the TAC Cup at all.

I was a keen observer of the U18 champs though, and Rohan's name certainly popped up a lot. Caught him in action on the final day against WA and he certainly has a lot of x-factor about him. Something just tends to happen when he is around the ball, much like Naitanui.

He's just the type of player we need in our forward line - quick, crumbs goals, tackles hard. He also has a lot of upside, and going on recent years (Naita, Swift, Notte, Houlihan), Woodhouse appears to have no problem taking a punt on the prospective.

From the AFL site:

Gary Rohan (Vic Country)
An eye-catching, explosive half-forward capable of taking a big grab, Rohan excelled in putting on forward pressure with 20 tackles

Eastern Rangers · Aug 24, 2009

monna said:
I just can't see Freo passing over Morabito. If he's available to them, they'll take him. Why? See Stephen Hill last year!

Unsure. But with Shammer and Hase getting on they could do with another pure onballer as opposed to a utility like Morabito.

Eastern Rangers · Aug 24, 2009

Big_Ives said:
being a long time west coast supporter im hopinh that we indeed do get kane lucas and keep the wa boys home. yet i just cant see it happening

1. scully
2. trengrove
3. morabito
4. butcher
5. lucas

is lucas a certainty for # 5 or is he just hyped up by the west coast supporters ? do the east coast teams rate him? + who is dustin martin and why would he be taken ahead of lucas (i hope he does)........i dont know what wooshas on but i have no idea why he would want to bring lecras out into the midfield when he is doing so well in that small forward role. sureley he should have one more solid midfeilder in his sights at the draft?

Well the Victorian media dont rate Lucas because he has played mainly in the forward line but he's a genuine midfield prospect who dominates Colts, has probably strengthened his game, takes a good mark and is a pretty good shot on goal.

He averaged 20.6 disposal and 5.8 Marks a game playing off the HF line, Dustin Martin was one of Vic Counties main movers and shakers and did his chances no marm.

I still think we lack outside midfielders and would love him at Westcoast, his 188cm, hard running and a good finnisher. I dont think his cookie cutter, he can improve his game allot in terms of inside work and impact in contested situations if he does that he will be one very good player.

Anjahads · Aug 24, 2009

adagio said:
^^ What he said

As I've said previously, I certainly don't profess to be any kind of expert, e.g. I don't follow the TAC Cup at all.

I was a keen observer of the U18 champs though, and Rohan's name certainly popped up a lot. Caught him in action on the final day against WA and he certainly has a lot of x-factor about him. Something just tends to happen when he is around the ball, much like Naitanui.

He's just the type of player we need in our forward line - quick, crumbs goals, tackles hard. He also has a lot of upside, and going on recent years (Naita, Swift, Notte, Houlihan), Woodhouse appears to have no problem taking a punt on the prospective.

From the AFL site:

Gary Rohan (Vic Country)
An eye-catching, explosive half-forward capable of taking a big grab, Rohan excelled in putting on forward pressure with 20 tackles

Thanks Adagio and Eagleman,sounds like the type of player we should take if available.I hope we do not exchange our pick 6.It would have to be an exceptional young gun to do so.

Chris25 · Aug 27, 2009

Well I'm working on another update to my draft, possibly adding on a third round...

Just wondering what Saints fans think about taking a key forward with their first pick? They obviously have Riewoldt and Koschitzke as the big two, but after that I'm not sold on their depth. With the unfortunate retirement of Allen, as far as I'm aware they only really have two untried options - Cahill and Lynch. I'm thinking Carlisle might be a good fit, as I think their midfield depth is pretty good.

cannons · Aug 27, 2009

Pykie said:
Dont be surprised if Gary Rohan's name is called out.

Hard to see Norf going for a player with flair.

Pykie · Aug 30, 2009

cannons said:
Hard to see Norf going for a player with flair.

You born post 2000's?

I heard Carey, Abraham, Allison, Harvey and co went O.K

Melbourne has only just broken their vanilla image in the last 2 seasons, prior to that, Jeff Farmer was your idea of flair.

Demon 16 · Aug 31, 2009

saxymaxy said:
new to bigfooty and dont know how to make my own post so i'll just have to make my phantom draft here...

1: Melbourne - Tom Scully
2: Melbourne - Jack Trengrove
3: Fremantle - Anthony Morabito
4: North Melbourne - Ben Cunnington
5: Richmond - John Butcher
6: West Coast - Kane Lucas
7: Sydney - Daniel Talia
8: Essendon - Dustin Martin
9: Port Adelaide - Matthew Panos
10: Hawthorn - Gary Rohan
11: Carlton - Koby Stevens
12: Brisbane - Luke Tapscott
13: Western Bulldogs - Jack Fitzpatrick
14: Collingwood - Nathan Vardy
15: Adelaide - Mitchell Duncan
16: Geelong - Andrew Moore
17: St Kilda - Roland Ah Chee
18: Melbourne - Jordan Gysbergs
22: West Coast - Travis Colyer
38: West Coast - Lewis Jetta

what do u all think about that order?
should be intresting to see what changes after draft camp...

It would be interesting to hear your reasoning besides each player to understand why youve gone this way. That said, I think its a pretty good effort sm.

If Melbourne go for 2 midfielders with 1 & 2, it would take a pretty good midfielder to slide for them to overlook Carlisle and Griffiths with their 3rd pick. I dont know enough about Gysberts myself, but Ive read some good things. Do you think he would be tempting enough for Melbourne here?

The Professor · Aug 31, 2009

Demon 16 said:
If Melbourne go for 2 midfielders with 1 & 2, it would take a pretty good midfielder to slide for them to overlook Carlisle and Griffiths with their 3rd pick. I dont know enough about Gysberts myself, but Ive read some good things. Do you think he would be tempting enough for Melbourne here?

I would be happy taking three midfielders. Scully, Trengove and Gysbert.

Game described like a young Jack Grimes on afl.com.au. Love Grimey but IMO just a bit early to use Grimey as a comparison.

Chris25 · Aug 31, 2009

Time for an update to my phantom draft (the original, and the best if I do say so myself). The names in blue are the latest changes to my draft...

1. Melbourne - Tom Scully
No surprises here from Melbourne. They have essentially come out and said they will be taking Scully, and it's no wonder why.

2. Melbourne - Jack Trengove
After the loss of McLean and the addition of Pick 11, I think Melbourne will put off choosing a tall for now. Trengove is second best player in the draft, and would offer an immediate replacement for McLean. With a better midfield, perhaps even a Newton or Jamar might be able to step up as a key forward.

3. Richmond - Dustin Martin
Martin had a good draft camp, and that has seen him rise in the draft order. Personally, I still like Butcher for this pick. But Richmond have a couple of options up forward, and their midfield stocks are quite thin. Martin would offer some much needed skill and toughness to the Richmond midfield.

4. Fremantle - Anthony Morabito
Fremantle have all but confirmed they will take Morabito if he is still around. Midfielders of his size are quite rare, and I think he'll be the best player taken in this draft.

5. North Melbourne - Ben Cunnington
I strongly considered Butcher here, but I think North will overlook him and go for the best available midfielder. North have a couple of key forwards (although I have question marks over how successful they will be) and will feel comfortable enough waiting until the second round to take a key forward. Cunnington meanwhile will work well alongside of Swallow and Ziebell, and unlike their other midfielders can have an impact on the scoreboard.

6. Sydney Swans - John Butcher
They have White and Johnston, but with Butcher their forward line will be set for the next 10 years. Sydney can't afford to drop down the ladder for too long, and drafting Butcher is the best way to avoid this. While they'll still be able to take a quality midfielder at Pick 14.

7. West Coast - Kane Lucas
The rumours are that Jetta will be considered here, but the draft camp has just further strengthened Lucas' claim for this selection. He might not be the flavour of the month, but he has been considered as a top 10 selection all year and nothing has changed.

8. Port Adelaide - Luke Tapscott
Tapscott is the next best midfielder in the draft. He'll offer the Port midfield a big body and good foot skills, while also providing another option across half forward.

9. Port Adelaide - Koby Stevens
Stevens is a genuine midfielder with decent skills and he works hard, something Port is lacking. And I can see his inside game working quite well with Tapscott, Pearce and Rodan.

10. Essendon - Lewis Jetta
With the loss of Lovett, I'm expecting Essendon to look at drafting speed while Jetta does have the skill to go with the speed. His draft camp has seen him rise in the rankings, and although I think Pick 10 might be a little early for him, I think Essendon would be the best fit for him outside of WA.

11. Melbourne - Jake Carlisle
After taking Scully and Trengove with their first two picks, Melbourne will turn their attention to a KPP. I rate Black as the next best key forward, but I think Melbourne will go with versatility and the fact that Carlisle can play forward and back will see him get the nod.

12. Carlton - Aaron Black
After trading away Fevola and not receiving a forward in return, the Blues should look at drafting one here. Black is the best available, and he will provide the target they will be sorely missing. There is only so much you can ask Fisher, Waite and O’hAilpin to do. Black will at least give them a genuine forward.

13. Adelaide - Gary Rohan
I just can’t see Rohan going in the top 10, the second half of the first round is more his area. And Adelaide should be rapt to get him here. Rohan offers speed and defensive pressure off half forward, which is exactly what Adelaide need. The fact that he doesn’t win a lot of the ball won’t be an issue at the Crows, as they have other players who do just that.

14. Sydney Swans - Jake Melksham
Melksham was always one player who could push into the first round, and his performance in the TAC Cup Grand Final should see that happen. He has the speed, agility, skill and the ability to play both inside and outside. So he ticks all the boxes, and that is perfect for a team like Sydney.

15. Western Bulldogs - Daniel Talia
With Barry Hall joining the Bulldogs, I think Talia will be the one missing link between them and a premiership. Williams, Hargrave and Everitt are good players, but all are better suited to playing a rebounding role. Talia will offer support for Lake, while freeing up guys like Hargrave and Morris to play on people their own size.

16. Port Adelaide - Matthew Panos
Port need another tall forward, and Panos is the best genuine forward available at this point. He should help to straighten them up, and will take the pressure off of Westhoff. And the fact that he is South Australian is just a bonus, not the reason for the selection.

17. Geelong - Allen Christensen
I’ve always had him under consideration for the Geelong pick, and he finds his way back to the Cats in this version. With Drum going to Geelong, I think they have a good replacement for Milburn. While ruckmen can be picked up later, which I expect them to do. As good as the Geelong midfield is, a lot of the players are quite similar. Christensen would bring agility and speed to the Geelong midfield, the comparison is with Daniel Kerr and a player like that would be a handy acquisition for Geelong.

Chris25 · Aug 31, 2009

Re: 2009 Phantom Draft - Version 2

18. Melbourne – Nathan Vardy
They’ve taken two midfielders and a versatile tall, the last thing they desperately need is a quality ruckman. And in Vardy they get the best one on offer. Could be considered unlucky to miss the first round, but I can’t see anyone else taking a ruckman so early. I think he could well be one of the better ruckmen of the last few years.

19. Richmond – Andrew Moore
After taking Martin in the first round, is Moore really what Richmond need? No, probably not. But I have a feeling they will go for the best available player, and the good news for them is that Moore is a very versatile player. Could play a lead up CHF role or through the midfield, like O’Keefe at Sydney. If Richmond overlooks Butcher, I can see them continuing to shore up their midfield and look at KPP’s later on.

20. Fremantle – Troy Taylor
The most exciting player in the draft, and my favourite player. Taylor has everything you could ask for in a small/medium forward, and has the tricks to rival Motlop. Eventually he could be a burst player in the midfield, and he has even played in the ruck before so he obviously has a decent leap on him given he stands at 189cm.

21. North Melbourne – Brad Sheppard
Wouldn't surprise me to see North look at drafting a tall here, but Sheppard is far too good to pass on at this stage. Sheppard is a running half back, capable of going through the midfield. He has decent skills, and his attack on the ball is his best feature. Perfect Jesse Smith replacement.

22. West Coast – Travis Colyer
Colyer is another one who had a very good draft camp, and has increased his standing in the draft. West Coast need speed, and Colyer would offer that and more. He won’t be a lot of help as a small forward in my opinion, but he will have a definite impact in the midfield and will compliment Ebert, Masten and Lucas quite well.

23. West Coast – Jack Fitzpatrick
West Coast are still lacking one quality tall and after taking two midfielders already, they'll be looking at the tall here. Fitzpatrick is the best on offer, and will play up forward and is capable of playing in the ruck.

24. Essendon – Ben Griffiths
Another team who needs a tall forward, and they’ll be pretty happy with Griffiths lasting until their pick. Neagle has been around for a while now, and hasn’t shown a lot at AFL level. While personally I like Hurley more as a defender. Griffiths is big and can take a strong mark, and if it wasn’t for injuries would be going earlier. Surely one of Griffiths and Gumbleton will be able to have an injury free season.

25. North Melbourne – Jordan Gysberts
After taking a KPP, North are back to taking the best available midfielder. I like Gysberts, and I’ve had him going in the first round previously. But I think some other players have overtaken him, especially after the draft camp. Gysberts is a decent sized midfielder with good skills, and will fit in nicely with North’s working class midfield.

26. Essendon – Mitch Duncan
Like North, Essendon are back to drafting midfielders. Duncan has played primarily off half forward, and has done so very successfully. But he has the skills and ability to become a full time midfielder, and ultimately that is where he will play. In the meantime, he has the skills to play as a medium sized forward or across half back.

27. Brisbane Lions – Ryan Bastinac
Brisbane have traded away their future for a premiership now, so they won’t be taking any developing players. Bastinac is one player who could come in and have an immediate impact. He is a solid midfielder, but also one who can run all day. And I think he will play as an outside runner in the short term, and could definitely play a role at Brisbane next season.

28. Geelong – James Craig
Geelong lost a ruckman and gained a rebounding defender during trade week. They now need another ruckman even more than before, while they are still lacking depth in their KPP stocks. Craig gives them another ruck option, and ultimately a player to develop into a full back. I like Craig, and he could be one to surprise a lot of people with how early he goes.

29. Adelaide – Alex Carey
I hope Carey doesn’t get drafted. As a Redbacks fan, I would love to see him stick with cricket rather than going into the AFL. But he is just as good a footballer as he is a cricketer. Solid inside midfielder with good tackling skills. As good a replacement for Shirley/Doughty as Adelaide will be able to find.

30. Collingwood – Josh Thomas
Beams last year, and Thomas this year. Someone gave Thomas a guarantee that he will be drafted, and I think it was Collingwood. Thomas is a very promising midfielder, with good skills and pace. One of the better players to come out of Queensland in recent years, and even in the second round Thomas could be a steal.

31. Western Bulldogs – Jesse Crichton
Best available midfielder for the Bulldogs. Crichton could go earlier, but I think this is about right for him. Crichton can play as either an attacking or defensive midfielder, and that should appeal to the Bulldogs. I like the young midfielders at the Bulldogs, so Crichton should have plenty of time to develop and iron out any deficiencies in his game.

32. St Kilda – Daniel Menzel
Menzel is a hard working running defender, with decent skills to match. Menzel should allow Goddard and Gram to run through the midfield more often, while offering another midfield option himself.

33. Essendon – Max Gawn
Essendon have drafted two midfielders and a KPP, but another ruckman is still high on their list of needs. They have a couple of star ruckmen in Ryder and Hille, plus a couple of developing talls. But another one never hurts. Gawn is 206cm, and after Vardy and Craig, is the best ruck in the draft and the depth in ruckmen does drop off significantly. Better to jump now, than wait and lose out.

34. Melbourne – Roland Ah Chee
Ah Chee had an excellent state screening, and that could well see him push up into the second round. Ah Chee will offer them something different in their midfield, and will compliment Scully and Trengove quite well.

35. Richmond – Sam Reid
After taking a couple of midfielders, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Richmond draft talls from here on out. Reid is an athletic tall at that, and can play both in defence or up forward. Probably better suited to defence, but can take a strong grab at either end. His draft camp has seen him jump up the order, and he is a genuine chance at going in the second round.

36. Fremantle – Callum Bartlett
Fremantle might be better off looking at a tall here, but there aren't really quality ones left especially early in the third round. Bartlett is quick and has good foot skills, and will add some variety to the Fremantle midfield. Could be a steal.

37. North Melbourne – Nat Fyfe
North need a tall, but like with Fremantle there aren't really any who should be going at this pick. Fyfe while not a tall, is still of a reasonable height and will give them a target up forward. He has been compared to Brett Burton, and that's exactly the role he will play at North.

38. Sydney Swans – Jasper McMillan-Pittard
McMillan-Pittard's standing in the draft has increased lately, and he could well go in the second round. And Sydney should be pretty happy getting him here. Plays primarily off half back, but he would have a real impact on the wing with his run and carry.

39. Hawthorn – Derick Wanganeen
After trading for Gibson and Burgoyne, I think Hawthorn will just go for best available. They are still missing that big bodied defender, and another ruckman. But I don’t think any of them are really deserving of this selection. Wanganeen is a very quick forward/midfielder, with good hands and skills. He’ll need a year or two in the gym before he has a real impact, but he should allow Rioli to move into the midfield on a more permanent basis.

40. Geelong – Ayden Kennedy
Kennedy is an athletic lead up forward, who should provide a good foil for Mooney, Ottens and Hawkins. His goal kicking is generally pretty good, and his draft camp results could see him go even earlier.

41. North Melbourne – Jo Dare
Dare is a country boy who has come from nowhere into draft calculations. He is 188cm, but does play taller. I can see him being a replacement for Gibson, but unlike Gibson he is composed and has awareness of what is going on around him. Has very good hands, and is a tough player which North apparently like to pride themselves on.

42. Geelong – Jesse Smith
Yes, this is the Jesse Smith from North Melbourne. Has walked out on the club, and it looks likely that he will nominate for the ND not the PSD. Geelong were keen on him, and Smith was keen on them in trade week. He has some pretty bad injury problems, but if any club could afford to take the punt on him it would be Geelong.

43. Carlton – Myles Pitt
I think Carlton have more than enough midfield depth, while their defence and ruck stocks are pretty good. So I’ve gone with another forward. Pitt is a lead up third tall, and has a good set of hands on him. Basically, Pitt will hopefully be what Fisher should have been. I think Pitt could come in and have an impact in his first year, and should give them another dimension up forward.

44. Richmond – Andrew Hooper
Hooper tested well in the draft camp, and if it wasn’t for his size he would probably have gone a lot earlier. But he is very short, although admittedly built like a tank. He has played most of his football as a small defender, and could do so for Richmond. But he has good speed and agility, so could move into the midfield and he would be a very tough one at that.

45. Adelaide – Ryan Harwood
Harwood is a developing midfielder, and he will need time. But he has a lot of potential and could be an A-grade midfielder. Adelaide have the midfield depth to take him, and their midfield stocks should be complete now.

46. Hawthorn – Josh Donaldson
In the short term, Donaldson would offer Hawthorn another option in the ruck. He is a bit short to play his career in the ruck, and as such I think he’ll develop into a Dustin Fletcher type full back. He has good agility and long arms, so there is no reason he won’t be successful as a KPP.

47. Brisbane Lions – David Astbury
After trading away Henderson, who was one of Brisbane’s few good young KPP’s, Brisbane will surely look to strengthen their talls with this pick. Astbury is a KPP who can play forward or back, and I think Astbury will develop into a solid key defender. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them draft a ready made player though as clearly they want that premiership now, and Astbury will probably require a couple of seasons in the gym.

48. Fremantle – Joel Houghton
After overlooking a key forward in the second round, Fremantle should jump at Houghton here. At 196cm, Houghton is a very good size and moves well for a guy that tall. He has strong hands and is a good kick, while he doesn’t shy away from a contest. I see him playing as a classic CHF, like Kennedy at the Eagles. Could prove to be a bargain pick.

49. Fremantle – Mark Hutchings
Consecutive picks for Fremantle, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them taking another tall. But Hutchings is a good pick up at this stage in the draft. A solid inside midfielder, and has the classic inside midfielder attributes of awareness, vision and leadership. Will form a good partnership with Palmer, Hasleby and DeBoer and will finally give Fremantle a genuine midfield.

Chris25 · Aug 31, 2009

Re: 2009 Phantom Draft - Version 2

50. Melbourne – Anthony Del Borello
Small/medium forward who is particularly strong when it comes to the contested ball. Kicked 14 goals in 6 Colts game this year, and was one of the standouts in the new kicking test at the draft camp. Should compliment the excitement of Wonaeamirri and Jurrah quite well.

51. Richmond – Serhat Temel
Somebody has to take him, and Richmond would probably be the best fit. Richmond needs a key forward in my opinion, but with Riewoldt and Morton they already have the athletic forwards. Temel isn’t the most agile or quick player going around, but he can take a strong mark. Richmond need a big target in the goal square to kick the ball long to, and that is exactly what you will get with Temel.

52. Fremantle – Chris Luff
Fremantle need a key defender, and Luff is the best one WA has to offer. And I see this as being around the mark for Luff. He is a solid defender who reads the ball well, and put in some good performances during the U18’s.

53. North Melbourne – Brayden Norris
Norris is a hard running player, who equalled the best ever beep test result at the draft camp. Plays primarily as a half forward, who has strong hands and is good on the lead. His running abilities should mean he is capable of moving into the midfield, and I can see him working well with a midfield of Swallow, Anthony, Gysberts, Cunnington and Ziebell.

54. Sydney Swans – Jason Tutt
Has played mostly off half back, and this is due to his good foot skills being utilised in a way that he can set the play up. He has good speed and isn’t afraid of going for a run, and there is no reason he won’t be able to slot into the Sydney midfield, particularly given Shaw owns the half back position.

55. Sydney Swans – Dylan Grimes
Grundy is a very good defender in my book, but the rest of the Sydney defence is ageing. Grimes is a good solid defender, who sticks to his task well and has good closing speed. Put in a good performance at the draft camp, and that could see him going earlier than this.

56. Geelong – Marcus Davies
Davies plays through the midfield and across half back, and is very much a power runner. This was shown through his excellent beep test and time trial results at the draft camp. Davies was interviewed by Geelong, and apparently performed well in his interviews. Given time to develop, and the Tasmanian could be a very handy pick up at this stage of the draft.

57. Hawthorn – Kyle Hartigan
Hawthorn did lose a couple of young midfielders during trade week, but I’d expect them to look at some mature aged midfielders later on or during the rookie draft instead. Instead, I have them taking a KPP here. Hartigan is a good prospect, and it wouldn’t be surprising to see him go a lot earlier. At 194cm he is a good size, and athletically is very good. I see him developing into a solid full back, and could well do so sooner rather than later.

58. Hawthorn – Anthony Long
Long is a skilful running defender, who has been injured at stages during the season. Potentially, he could go a lot higher than this as he is a very good player. Has speed and agility, and works well in traffic too. This selection is very much a best available one, rather than needs.

59. Carlton – Josh Cowan
You can probably throw a blanket over the remaining midfielders in the draft. Cowan is a winger, who can find plenty of the ball. Decision making is a strength, and Carlton have enough midfield depth to let him develop properly.

60. St Kilda – Tom Hill
Hill was talked up last year, as a possible top 50 pick but ultimately didn’t get drafted. He’ll definitely get taken during one of the drafts this year, but I think it will be later on. He has the size, speed and agility to be a very handy KPP. Could be developed into a forward, defender or ruckman, and the Saints could go either way. He would be a similar forward to Koschitzke, so he might be best used as a defender/ruckman.

61. Adelaide – Simon Potts
Potts is a tall defender, although best suited as more of a third tall. With Davis developing as a key defender, Potts will able to slot into the backline in a Bassett type role. This should also allow Otten to be freed up to play a more attacking role.

62. Collingwood – Sam Shaw
Had a good draft camp, and that should see him get drafted at some stage. Shaw is another one of those developing talls who could potentially play at both ends, although a defensive position would appear to be the best option for Shaw. Is an athletic player, although needs to put on a bit more weight. With Brown and Reid as young talls, Collingwood would be able to let him develop.

63. Western Bulldogs – Deon Gordon
Gordon is a half back from the NT, and his game is built around his excellent foot skills. And that is what should appeal to the Bulldogs. Plus he is creative when he does have the ball, and isn’t afraid to run the ball out of defence. He reminds me of Des Headland in the way he moves.

64. St Kilda – Nicholas Winmar
Winmar continues to slide in my draft, but he will go eventually. The Saints are in a good position to be able to take the punt on him, and should be able to give the forward/wing plenty of time to develop and build on his endurance.

65. Geelong – Joseph Groenewegan
Rounding out the fourth round is another ruckman, this time from Tasmania. Groenewegan fits the ball of the modern day mobile ruckman, but will need time to develop. And with Ottens, Blake, West, Hawkins and Craig he will have plenty of time to develop.

66. Melbourne – Luke Thompson
Tall defender, good athletically and likes to run the lines.

67. Richmond – Cameron Milne
Developing young ruckman from Tasmania. Will need time to develop, but is a good option in a draft lacking talls.

68. Fremantle – Cameron Kickett
Has played in the ruck at stages, but too short at AFL level. Provides good run off a wing, and is good in the air and at ground level. Bit of a project, but should be a good one.

69. Hawthorn – Zac Ledin
Solid midfielder, who wins plenty of the ball and generally good with his decision making and skills.

70. Hawthorn – Myles Sewell
Overage midfielder, who can play both defensive and attacking roles. Pretty similar to his brother.

71. West Coast – Tom Mackenzie
Versatile tall defender, can play on both smalls and talls.

72. Richmond – Kallan Geary
Hard running midfielder with decent skills, endurance is his greatest strength.

73. Hawthorn – Jordan Williams
Hard working midfielder/half back, who wins plenty of contested ball.

74. Essendon – Justin Bollenhagen
Medium sized midfielder with very good skills, strong hands and ability in traffic.

75. Carlton – Chaz Sargeant
Half forward with very good hands, younger and hopefully better version of Wiggins.

76. Brisbane Lions – Robbie Hicks
Very quick midfielder/small forward. The only thing Brisbane didn’t trade for.

77. Adelaide – Jack Hannath
Developing ruckman, even though I rate Adelaide’s ruckmen more than some others, they’ll still probably look at drafting another one.

78. Collingwood – Charlie McAdam
Small frame, but creative half back flanker.

79. Western Bulldogs – Byron Sumner
Quick small forward/midfielder, with good foot skills and penetration.

80. St Kilda – Scott Taylor
Taylor is more likely to go in the rookie draft, but I like him. Just a good solid inside midfielder.

81. Geelong – Daniel Archer
Geelong pick up their third Tasmanian, this time taking a tall forward.

Bails2008 · Aug 31, 2009

Re: 2009 Phantom Draft - Version 2

I think every single Melbourne supporter would be happy with that draft with Scully, Trengove and Panos. Doubt Panos would drop that far but would be great if it happens. However you would think that if we pick Trengove pick 2 that we would take one of Panos, Vardy, Griffiths Carlise etc if they were available at 18

LukeParkerno1 · Aug 31, 2009

Re: 2009 Phantom Draft - Version 2

Outside midfielders are dead set the LAST thing we need- we have them in bucketloads, actually would like us to take Alex Carey at that pick. Happy with Martin or Stevens first round.

cannons · Aug 31, 2009

Re: 2009 Phantom Draft - Version 2

Good job Chris

As a Melbourne fan, I would be very pleased with that, even though I'd love to see Lewis join Nev.

Just a quick one, what are your reasons for selecting Trengove above Butcher at 2 (e.g. what is it about Trengove that makes him the prime candidate for this position?)?

I agree, by the way, but I would just be interested to hear your perspective on this issue.

Chris25 · Aug 31, 2009