Yes, noticed they also played Carlton at Kardinia Park in 2018 and 2019.bahahaha you still have a chance to delete your post. It's pretty embarrassing. The fixture came out in Oct 2019 for the 2020 season, Carlton was already fixtured to play at GMHBA. Do you think the Oct 2019 release of the 2020 fixture knew that covid was coming in March 2020
All facts lead to CollingwoodIs it Aprils fools I'm pretty sure it isn't, so no Collingwood aint bigger
Oh good, so results in home and away matches count now?Juggernaut Richmond Tigers Football Club played 5 games v 3 peloton clubs - the dwindling supporter base Collingwood Football Club, Essendon FC and Carlton FC. In only one of those 5 games did the peloton club get within 2 goals of Richmond. In the game 20% of the time is not much to encourage their fans to turn up is it?
But v the dwindling supporter base Collingwood FC, juggernaut Richmond FC + Carlton FC + Essendon FC 100% of those teams were in the game at the end of the match. Five from five. 100%. So of course more of those teams’ fans will show up against Collingwood than Richmond. 20% chance of being in the contest v 100% chance of being in the contest.
Opposition supporters turning up for matches against dwindling supporter base Collingwood Football Club does not establish that the Collingwood FC has a greater supporter base than juggernaut Richmond FC.
What the hell are you on about?? Collingwood fc support base is growing by the minute. We are the biggest football club in Australia. Richmond are the biggest sporting club in Ringwood!!! Well done tigersJuggernaut Richmond Tigers Football Club played 5 games v 3 peloton clubs - the dwindling supporter base Collingwood Football Club, Essendon FC and Carlton FC. In only one of those 5 games did the peloton club get within 2 goals of Richmond. In the game 20% of the time is not much to encourage their fans to turn up is it?
But v the dwindling supporter base Collingwood FC, juggernaut Richmond FC + Carlton FC + Essendon FC 100% of those teams were in the game at the end of the match. Five from five. 100%. So of course more of those teams’ fans will show up against Collingwood than Richmond. 20% chance of being in the contest v 100% chance of being in the contest.
Opposition supporters turning up for matches against dwindling supporter base Collingwood Football Club does not establish that the Collingwood FC has a greater supporter base than juggernaut Richmond FC.
I’d still give it a crack if the two of us hit a nightclub together. I ain’t spending my night alone with you in the hotel room after, I’m making sure I’ve got company with me.Can confirm I have never pulled in a nightclub. On an international flight, in a Spanish restaurant with a waitress who enjoyed the way I mis-pronounced “gracias senorita,” a landlady or two, at a posh resort perhaps, but never at a nightclub, not my scene.
But who has the greater supporter base?!
Collingwood and it ain’t close
You’re the perfect wingman, I can sense it.PL you cannot imagine how poorly my mixture of jovial and witty repartee and calm philosophically anchored analysis goes down on the nightclub scene. You on the other hand I could see thriving in the environment.
Nah, not good enough, sorry.OK I can kick it off with a nice little pro-Collingwood argument.
People are known to follow the club their parents followed at a greater rate than following any non-parent favoured club at random. In short, there is a bias by children towards the clubs their parents followed. But of course with each generation passing this bias gets weakened. So a child is more likely to follow the club of his grandparent than any other club at random, but more likely again to follow the club of his parent than any other club at random.
People from poor neighbourhoods are known to run foul of the law at a greater rate than people from more affluent neighbourhoods, with higher incarceration rates.
People in prison are not allowed to attend AFL finals but sometimes get day releases to go to home and away matches.
Poorer neighbourhoods tend to be more populous than more affluent neighbourhoods.
Whilst Richmond and Collingwood have in the past been working class catholic neighbourhoods, Collingwood has always been just that bit more working class and that bit more catholic.
Welfare class is the new working class. Ie 100 years ago you could not live on the dole, you had to work, even the laziest least intelligent and least motivated of people. So when we say they were working class areas, this would be like being a welfare class area today. As we can see from median house prices today, Richmond has risen further in the world than the less aspirational Collingwood. Prices in Richmond are 13% higher. Median incomes are actually $7 higher per week in Collingwood so don’t ever let anybody tell you crime does not pay. But most of this money gets blown on counter-productive things, so don’t be fooled by this statistic. Collingwood people are poorer.
Anyway, drawing all this together it is clear why Collingwood had the bigger following historically. People who lived in Collingwood were more catholic that the slightly more secular Richmond, and also being poorer they tended to breed enthusiastically, regardless of the fact there was less space into which the resulting progeny could be accommodated.
So Collingwood had the bigger following. Many of their following to this day fill the gaols, prison farms and curfew tagged populations of Victoria as a natural corollary of all of the above. So whilst generation to generation the Collingwood supporter base is slowly but surely dwindling as a result of youngsters becoming more and more disconnected from their shameful roots, and Richmond now seems to have the greater supporter base as more and more new aspirational people align with the excellent values of the club, if you include the prison population there is a very real chance Collingwood still clings narrowly to the greater supporter base. It is just they cannot afford memberships, and cannot get to the more expensive and often prohibited finals matches in any great number.
That would be my main argument for Collingwood having the greater supporter base than Richmond.
Collingwood obviously need to do another Do it better Report!!
Whilst I won’t suggest Collingwood almost certainly isn’t the biggest Club, how on earth can you and others keep using crowd stats for home and away aggregates to justify supremacy? Only Collingwood and Richmond play at an unconstrained stadium! How is it even possible for a Carlton or Essendon to participate in such a debate if it plays its home games at a 45,000 seater? I will argue that if Essendon had as much on field success as Collingwood the last 20 years, mirroring it’s ladder finishes annually over this period, it’s highly likely they would’ve finished the top aggregate club in the competition on several occasions. There’s almost no doubt about that. Look at 2017 as an obvious case in point..
