List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Starcevich nominates $900k pa and goes into ND. Nobody will draft him at that wage. Nobody would have the salary cap room to.
Sign Dev via the SSP. Doesn't even need to nominate for the draft.

Don't even need to trade for either. Brisbane surely taking the p!ss here?

 

[Altum Volantes]

Why would the Eagles delist someone that they could probably get at least some compensation in return for?

Oh and meant to add, I highly doubt he would have a legitimate suitor.

 

[rko121]

I think Matt Clarke did a pretty good job in that interview, the way I read that is we will give you pick 23 and help with bringing the academy kid in by not bidding with the first 2 picks. Also took a shot at the lions towards the end by hinting if you don't accept it we will bid and make it difficult for you.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

No that's overs IMO, and he's surplus to Gold Coast at the moment.

Then they've literally left nothing for their other trades like Ryan.

Where they should be trying to get both Ryan and Flanders through that pick.

Ryan and 16 for 7.

Done.

23 to lions for starc.

Chesser 24 37 57 for blues 10

Draft
1 2 7 10

 

[FatPizza]

Why would the Eagles delist someone that they could probably get at least some compensation in return for?

Well, look what happened with Carlton and Owies last year!

 

[In The Rod We Trust]

Starcevich nominates $900k pa and goes into ND. Nobody will draft him at that wage. Nobody would have the salary cap room to.
Sign Dev via the SSP. Doesn't even need to nominate for the draft.

Don't even need to trade for either. Brisbane surely taking the p!ss here?

The threat here is that they don't lodge paperwork to sign Oscar but to counter that why would other players then want to sign with or nominate Brisbane as a free agent if this is what they do.

 

[boondy]

Not bothered if Brockman wants to go. I don't think he has what it takes mentally to succeed at AFL level.

Isaiah Winder is available and could replace him like for like

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

A decent night’s sleep and a reflection on the state of affairs.

I have incorrectly seen Starcevich as a free hit. He is not, and taking him through free agency is not possible. Lions will receive nothing for the FA compo and we diminish the Oscar FA possible pick 2.

Therefore I want pick 2 that Oscar will generate and we have convinced Starc to come to us, a trade is required. Let’s not fool ourselves that clubs want to threaten using the PSD, that just builds enemies. And anything other than band 1, we match.

We should have no problems accepting it’s a trade. The issue now is what value! I think 23 makes sense. If they push too hard for 16, we need enough coming back. That could include Dev, future picks and/or an array for R3 and R4 picks that we could be holding and they will come in fast after the first 3 club tied prospects are matched.

Having watched the interview with Cal, Matty was better than last year.

Ryan - he is contracted for 2026, a required player with no issues at the club so St Kilda need to make it a decent deal
Chesser - a first round prospect we think highly of and we have finally got his body right. Nothing to see there other than we are some distance apart in what is likely
Young - we like and will work out something. My thoughts it’s likely to be a late second or early third. I think Tigers might be up for points for Kellaway without splitting their 2 early R1 picks. We might get those from Lions
Berry, Macrae, Dev etc are all mature options we are looking at. We are very young


I might be missing something but unlike last year, Matty did not make the same mistake.



Oh and once we go to the draft, it will depend how generous the Lions and Suns have been as to who we bid on at 1, 2 and 3.

I hope to see on draft night Duursma being called out at pick 4. That will be us, or some club that has given a great deal for 1.

At pick 5, if the Blues screw us over, we bid on Dean. Then we start the real draft

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

The threat here is that they don't lodge paperwork to sign Oscar but to counter that why would other players then want to sign with or nominate Brisbane as a free agent if this is what they do.

What's that expression about cutting off your nose to spite your face?

FF is probably the biggest hole on their list and they're being gifted Allen for free.

 

[rko121]

Ryan and 16 for 7.

Done.

23 to lions for starc.

Chesser 24 37 57 for blues 10

Draft
1 2 7 10

7 is 100% gone to GC, St Kilda has made that public. You would think it gets passed on to Melbourne for Petracca, our best bet to upgrade is to get in early and get pick 6 from GC

 

[lmach]

If we trade pick 1, 2 and 16 to get Oskar Smartt then the Pyke era admin has to go.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Just out of curiosity, how do you know Brockman (or anybody else for that matter) does not have what it takes mentally to succeed at AFL level?

I didn't claim to "know" anything as in i have secret knowledge. I have an opinion, which is what these Boards are for, that he will never cut it at AFL level. And that is based on the fact that he goes completely missing in games for long periods of time. A couple of quarters can go by and you wouldn't even know he was on the field. You don't see him or hear his name called. If you are having a bad game and struggling to find the footy then a player with good mental aptitude will try and contribute in some other way. Tackles, smothers, blocks for a team mate, running hard to create an option for a team mate with the ball. He has skills with ball in hand but he doesn't get enough of the ball in his hands (probably because he doesn't run hard enough) and nor does he try and compete hard enough and make a contribution when he doesn't have the ball in his hands.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Therefore I want pick 2 that Oscar will generate and we have convinced Starc to come to us, a trade is required. Let’s not fool ourselves that clubs want to threaten using the PSD, that just builds enemies. And anything other than band 1, we match.

It increasingly feels like West Coast are the only club that lives in this outdated bubble.

Carlton sent Jack Martin to the pre-season draft when they couldn't agree a trade with GC.
Hawthorn traded away the draft picks the Eagles wanted, forcing us to accept future picks instead.
GC pinched Knobel from Freo (while we were too chicken sh.t to do it).
Geelong regularly bend other clubs over in trades.
etc, etc.

Good relations don't mean anything, clubs trade in their own best interests. Refusing to trade in the future because of a grudge or being good guys only hurts yourself.

 

[TOA.]

I didn't claim to "know" anything as in i have secret knowledge. I have an opinion, which is what these Boards are for, that he will never cut it at AFL level. And that is based on the fact that he goes completely missing in games for long periods of time. A couple of quarters can go by and you wouldn't even know he was on the field. You don't see him or hear his name called. If you are having a bad game and struggling to find the footy then a player with good mental aptitude will try and contribute in some other way. Tackles, smothers, blocks for a team mate, running hard to create an option for a team mate with the ball. He has skills with ball in hand but he doesn't get enough of the ball in his hands (probably because he doesn't run hard enough) and nor does he try and compete hard enough and make a contribution when he doesn't have the ball in his hands.

To be fair to him, he's a player who will go well in a good team. Our forward line is an absolute graveyard. It suits the high work rate/low skill types. Brockman is more of a high skill/low work rate type. If he was in the Lions team he could run around lose like Lohman. Instead he's chasing ass out of our forward 50m. He's not a world beater but we have many bigger issues.

 

[Obeanie1]

I think Matt Clarke did a pretty good job in that interview, the way I read that is we will give you pick 23 and help with bringing the academy kid in by not bidding with the first 2 picks. Also took a shot at the lions at the end by hinting if you don't accept it we will bid and make it difficult for you.

Recall reading clubs weren't allowed to do that.

Threaten bidding or agree not bidding based on how a separate deal goes.

Looks like that was BS.

Glad we rattled the saber.

 

[Ochre]

If we trade pick 1, 2 and 16 to get Oskar Smartt then the Pyke era admin has to go.

Feels unfair to say without seeing what picks we'd get back first

 

[EagleEyeYeo]

I'm quietly confident we will do alright this offseason. Much has been said about last year, but if Bo Allan comes good then it would turn out to have been pretty good for us. I think some lessons have been learned about leveraging our position a bit more rather than backing ourselves into a corner.
The reality is, moneyball plays are our only option right now and the players we have targeted are exactly that. Dev, Starc and Young all improve our list, and all have potential outperform what we give up for them provided we hold strong.
I think the clubs plans are pretty obvious, bring in 3 top 10 picks, the 3 aforementioned players and a combination of of our NGA and/or SPP selections to round it out. If we can walk away having achieved that, I think we can be satisfied.

 

[FatPizza]

Recall reading clubs weren't allowed to do that.

Threaten bidding or agree not bidding based on how a separate deal goes.

Looks like that was BS.

Glad we rattled the saber.

No you wouldn't be allowed to stipulate it as part of an official agreement. But as we all know there's plenty of handshake agreements made.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I didn't claim to "know" anything as in i have secret knowledge. I have an opinion, which is what these Boards are for, that he will never cut it at AFL level. And that is based on the fact that he goes completely missing in games for long periods of time. A couple of quarters can go by and you wouldn't even know he was on the field. You don't see him or hear his name called. If you are having a bad game and struggling to find the footy then a player with good mental aptitude will try and contribute in some other way. Tackles, smothers, blocks for a team mate, running hard to create an option for a team mate with the ball. He has skills with ball in hand but he doesn't get enough of the ball in his hands (probably because he doesn't run hard enough) and nor does he try and compete hard enough and make a contribution when he doesn't have the ball in his hands.

Some may not like it, but this seems like a completely fair assessment given his career so far

 

[ghostbat12]

The threat here is that they don't lodge paperwork to sign Oscar but to counter that why would other players then want to sign with or nominate Brisbane as a free agent if this is what they do.

they have been courting him for a year.

there is zero risk they don't lodge paperwork for Oscar. its Starcevich, not will Ashcroft.

 

[boondy]

So when can pick trading start ?

Why didnt you ask The list managers about pick trading Cal.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Like I've said the second this got made official, it's up to the Saints to satisfy West Coast on a deal. West Coast don't have to do a God damn thing and will happily keep Ryan at the club next year.

That should pretty much be the boilerplate response to any question about a contracted player (unless it's a contracted player you've basically told to F off, like has been done with Oliver and Steele).

I think it would probably be for the best if Ryan moves on given his age and how far we are from contending, but he's also a good player at a position where we're pretty thin and there's no reason to just accept a packet of crisps in return.

 

[Mop]

Armed with nothing but confidence and a Wi-Fi connection, posters have delivered their definitive analysis of the Matty Clarke interview. Despite no training in body language, speech, or interview dynamics, their insights include:

• "legitimately looks like he'd have piddle running down the inside of his leg during that interview"
• "He certainly didn't give me any confidence as far as Brisbane and Starcevich go. Gee whiz"
• "He shit the bed a bit at the start"
• "improved as the interview went on"
• "why he didn't respond with more enthusiasm when asked about trading up"
• "Still sounded nervous and hesitant"

Waiting for the following comments to come:

• “He blinked—obviously lying.”
• “His tone felt off. I just know.”
• “I’m not an expert, but…”

Sources cited: vibes, and their cat’s reaction.

Experts were unavailable for comment.

I actually had my cat with me during it, he cleaned his toebeans and gave me a boop.

Take from that what you will.

 

[shooshka]

they have been courting him for a year.

there is zero risk they don't lodge paperwork for Oscar. its Starcevich, not will Ashcroft.

If they don’t lodge paperwork at band 1 they likely lose both Allen and Annable.

They are just trying to maximise their return, and using pretend leverage to try to put some pressure on.

They need whatever we give them to assist with matching a bid. And they will never get Allen through the draft (he won’t fall into the 40’s where their picks would be).

We just need to wait it out.

 

[eagles rule]

If we trade pick 16 to get Starcevich then the Pyke era admin has to go.

The Rumours were $900,000 a year offer for Starc so maybe why Brissy asking for Pick 16 ..