List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2022 superstar edition

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The Contracts Thread

Current contract status (Updated 31/10/25) : Total 38 Players - Main List (33) Rookie List (4) Cat B (1) Contracted to 2029 (4) : Jake Waterman (6/5/98) - Signed a 4 year extension (2026-29) on an existing contract due to expire 2025 in October 2024 Liam Baker (27/1/98) - Signed a 5 year...

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[Bender_]

Baldivis launching a sneaky bid

"Listen Nelso, that's my headshot up there next to the pepper steak and don't you forget it."

 

[paran]

This on AFL.com.au

What would we hand over for him? Port's second rounder get it done?

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Us not bidding on Ashcroft would probably get it done...

 

[briztoon]

Where has Roberston been forced to play to date?

He cant get a gig inside, Lions are too strong. So he's been forced to play outside.

Either way he is competing against Ashcoft and Fletcher.

Why ‘dominant’ father-son gun’s ‘big decision’ will shape the AFL draft as Lions face (positive) problem

‘Dominant’ father-son gun’s ‘big call’ to shape entire AFL draft as Lions face awkward balance

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Sheehan describes Fletcher as a wing who can also play inside. So a balanced mid.

Robertson has mostly played forward, with a little time as a defensive mid, and time on the wing.

There’s been a bit of angst on our board about where Robertson has been played at both AFL and VFL level on our board.

Our coach also suffers from “credits in the bank syndrome”. Lyons has really dropped off this year, but still gets picked every week.

This is probably our last chance at a flag with our current senior players, before we have to go through our own mini rebuild, bookended by the two Ashcroft brothers.

Sheehan is wrong about Fletcher. Yes he can play a little inside at junior level, but at AFL level he’ll be a wing, or HBF. He looks to be the perfect replacement for Rich, when he retires.

 

[Falco]

I will definitely admit that I was deadset keen on Cockatoo after this game. Guilty as charged.

 

[FKASC]

I will definitely admit that I was deadset keen on Cockatoo after this game. Guilty as charged.

Mate join the club

 

[Ochre]

Our coach also suffers from “credits in the bank syndrome”.

Never heard of it

 

[Chump Change]

I believe this will be year 2 (2nd draft) of a 5 year rebuild you’re in.

It looks like you’re fine for key defenders, but I don’t see a successor for NicNat or JK on your list yet.

Collingwood has far more depth and quality through their midfield and small defenders, both experienced and young players coming through. They’re definitely missing a quality young KPF and maybe a KPD.

I believe Collingwood is more than a couple of years ahead of you. But I also believe they might get stuck in the no man’s land of being stuck between 12th and 6th/7th, unless they trade in a couple of genuine stars (and no, McStay is not a star).

This is where I also think we're at.

We need 2x A+ midfielders and an A or A+ KPF (to partner OA). Unless they're Chris Judd, they're going to need 50+ games to get there. There's also going to be some inevitable misses in the draft. And then those soldiers - they don't really hit their straps until the A+ in the midfield. And finding A+ is no guarantee either.

It's a 5 year rebuild as far as I can see.

And Collingwood - I feel they are going to come up short of a flag with their current build.

 

[Rowan18]

This is where I also think we're at.

We need 2x A+ midfielders and an A or A+ KPF (to partner OA). Unless they're Chris Judd, they're going to need 50+ games to get there. There's also going to be some inevitable misses in the draft. And then those soldiers - they don't really hit their straps until the A+ in the midfield. And finding A+ is no guarantee either.

It's a 5 year rebuild as far as I can see.

And Collingwood - I feel they are going to come up short of a flag with their current build.

It might take 5 seasons, but that doesn't mean we do them sequentially and sit out of the 8 for the whole time. We could easily do a 2008-2014 type cycle, a few years out of the 8, jump up while we have some aging veterans with form, then miss a couple of years to round out the list.

Gov, Darling, Yeo, Kelly, Ryan, Rioli, Barrass etc are going to be around for several more seasons and play good football when we're fit. A suspect we get another finals surge with them and the young guns, then fall away for a bit once they retire.

As for the ruck, we just need to find a B grader who can halve contests. I suspect we fix that in the off season.

 

[kane249]

For a highlight video from a single game, it’s a pretty good one. Even in that first highlight, although he missed his target you can see he’s got a decent kicking action.

You should check out how poor some of the highlight videos are of most other draftees, eg.

His set shot accurately has remained constant

 

[Chump Change]

It might take 5 seasons, but that doesn't mean we do them sequentially and sit out of the 8 for the whole time. We could easily do a 2008-2014 type cycle, a few years out of the 8, jump up while we have some aging veterans with form, then miss a couple of years to round out the list.

Gov, Darling, Yeo, Kelly, Ryan, Rioli, Barrass etc are going to be around for several more seasons and play good football when we're fit. A suspect we get another finals surge with them and the young guns, then fall away for a bit once they retire.

As for the ruck, we just need to find a B grader who can halve contests. I suspect we fix that in the off season.

True, but I'm wary of teams like Collingwood who surge up early. Got some good midfield talent in Daicaii and Crispy Duck. Check. But who have they got up front. Henry looks good. Moore looks good down back.

I can't help but feel they need an extra gun. They might get lucky and get on with a pick 10-13 pick. Or maybe they have a bad season a drop down?

There's plenty of ways it could happen but I don't mind 3 seasons of bottom 4 to load up, and then a couple of seasons of 9-14 to add on.

 

[WCE_Talk]

And this takes us into the circular argument that Simpson never drops senior players, none of the senior players that get dropped count because they’re fringe players, the thing making them fringe players is that they get dropped, so he doesn’t drop senior players except for the senior players he drops.

And so on.

Jesus Christ, all you do is have silly little arguments on this app that you live on every single day, grow up.

Any person trying to not be intentionally daft knows Simpson essentially doesn’t ever drop established senior players. That’s what people talk about when they say those things. Dropping fringe guys who rotate in and out of the team anyway doesn’t = Simmo making tough calls on established senior players.

Go broadcast more live streams to your 2 viewers who watch per night and please find something to do outside of BigFooty


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[amazingjoshy]

 

[Altum Volantes]

Apparently Redden hasn’t quite reached his trigger yet.

Source: Redden.

Jeez, Round 19 and he’s hoping to reach the trigger in ‘the next few weeks’ after missing 1 (2?) games all year…what’s his trigger?

Being alive by Round 23?

 

[DanWCE]

Fivey RN:

 

[shooshka]

It might take 5 seasons, but that doesn't mean we do them sequentially and sit out of the 8 for the whole time. We could easily do a 2008-2014 type cycle, a few years out of the 8, jump up while we have some aging veterans with form, then miss a couple of years to round out the list.

Gov, Darling, Yeo, Kelly, Ryan, Rioli, Barrass etc are going to be around for several more seasons and play good football when we're fit. A suspect we get another finals surge with them and the young guns, then fall away for a bit once they retire.

As for the ruck, we just need to find a B grader who can halve contests. I suspect we fix that in the off season.

This is exactly it.

Kelly is an A grade mid. Even more-so if we can get some first-ball-winning mids around him and allow him to play more outside.

Yeo was looking good off the HBF once returning there. If he can get his body right then I can't see why he wouldn't eventually transition back into the midfield - yet another A grader when he is firing in there.

Culley plus pick #1/2/3 are going to be critical, but we have developing players in Edwards, Bazzo, Allen and J Williams for the key positions.

Ruck looks like a huge issue right now, sometimes as young players mature they have break-out years (we were hoping for B Williams and CJ, but that hasn't happened this year). It may still click for either of those guys. At worst, we might need to trade a mature ruck in (usually a early-mid 2nd round pick gets that done - and we currently hold at least 4 of those in the next 3 drafts).

Clearly we don't have a contending list currently, but the youth we do have are in positions where they will still be quite young as we do contend - and the players we have picked up (and will pick up soon) are restocking most of our ageing list profile (which is overwhelmingly midfield, we could still do with another speedy HBF, but moving JJ there has helped somewhat).

 

[Altum Volantes]

Jesus Christ, all you do is have silly little arguments on this app that you live on every single day, grow up.

Any person trying to not be intentionally daft knows Simpson essentially doesn’t ever drop established senior players. That’s what people talk about when they say those things. Dropping fringe guys who rotate in and out of the team anyway doesn’t = Simmo making tough calls on established senior players.

Go broadcast more live streams to your 2 viewers who watch per night and please find something to do outside of BigFooty


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Except Lewis Jetta.

I heard that Simmo still purposely cancels dinner plans with Lewis, just to feel the excitement of dropping him again.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Jesus Christ, all you do is have silly little arguments on this app that you live on every single day, grow up.

Any person trying to not be intentionally daft knows Simpson essentially doesn’t ever drop established senior players. That’s what people talk about when they say those things.

Yeah nah, I’ve had that silly little argument enough in the past.

 

[jdisc]

And this takes us into the circular argument that Simpson never drops senior players, none of the senior players that get dropped count because they’re fringe players, the thing making them fringe players is that they get dropped, so he doesn’t drop senior players except for the senior players he drops.

And so on.

Simpson only drops old players when they perform poorly, that's the point.

What he needs to do is drop them preemptively after they've had a good game.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I would confidently say this:

Phillipou won't make it past Adelaide's first rounder

The million dollar question is, do we risk what is potentially pick 1 drafting this kid

Our third and fourth rounder are equal to pick 28/29. I'd be ok with doing those two picks for Robertson and Lions fourth round pick.

Adding Culley, Philippou, best mid (our second rounder), ruck/key forward who's slid (quick google makes me thingk on or more of Broadbent/Sculley/Keeler will be available and look like talents) (Ports secound rounder), Robertson, would be a good mid season/preseason draft period. 4 young quality mids, a decent ruck project.

 

[Obeanie1]

I believe this will be year 2 (2nd draft) of a 5 year rebuild you’re in.

It looks like you’re fine for key defenders, but I don’t see a successor for NicNat or JK on your list yet.

Collingwood has far more depth and quality through their midfield and small defenders, both experienced and young players coming through. They’re definitely missing a quality young KPF and maybe a KPD.

I believe Collingwood is more than a couple of years ahead of you. But I also believe they might get stuck in the no man’s land of being stuck between 12th and 6th/7th, unless they trade in a couple of genuine stars (and no, McStay is not a star).

Ok that didn't answer my question. What is your definition of a major rebuild?

I'll ask it a different way.

After this 5 year rebuild where will the Eagles be? Top 4, bottom of the 8? And will they play finals within that 5 year period?

If your answer is ''no they will only play finals in another 5 years time min, 2027" I disagree. That would be 7 years outside the top 8. Weak clubs with weak boards may take that long. The Eagles have shown they know how to build lists and they don't spend 7 years outside the top 8.

You keep mentioning ünless they trade in a star.

For the Pies watch them land McStay and Taranto.

For the Eagles we won't be trading in big names but hopefully add Roberston this year or next. 2025 Tim English RFA. So options to find the missing pieces after hitting the draft in 2021, 2022 and 2023.

 

[bzparkes]

Simpson only drops old players when they perform poorly, that's the point.

What he needs to do is drop them preemptively after they've had a good game.

He did exactly that with O'Neill earlier this year.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Jeez, Round 19 and he’s hoping to reach the trigger in ‘the next few weeks’ after missing 1 (2?) games all year…what’s his trigger?

Being alive by Round 23?

Believe he has played 16 too date, surely the magic number is 18.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Simpson only drops old players when they perform poorly, that's the point.

What he needs to do is drop them preemptively after they've had a good game.

He dropped JK after he kicked 5 on the Bombers.

That was bold AF.

 

[bh90210fan]

They reckon Sydney Stack

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Sydney Stack

Age

25

Ht

179cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.7

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

202.0

3star

D

9.8

2star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.4

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.8

4star

MG

133.0

2star

D

16.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

227.4

4star

might be gone on the Richmond board

 

['51 Bewick]

Hi folks,
How is Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

progressing with his injury?
I have him in 2 keeper leagues and it hurt having him missing all season.
Cheers.