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sr36

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I wasn't, the players were
There were rumours about it a few years. The only player who i read publicly comment on it was Sidebottom who laughed it off when asked about it. And frankly even if the rumours of the player concerns were correct, I doubt too many of them are experts on the injury producing effects of a slightly harder than usual training surface.
 

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jackcass

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uh huh, 9 years
And as others have pointed out, a lot more complex than the training surface. Happy for you to quote any recent player rumblings about the training surface. Optus oval is copping it so players will make comments but all we hear is crickets chirping from the CFC.
 

Scodog10

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Not a bad thing for someone with mental health issues.
Yeah, maybe, having not been confronted by the black dog I can’t comment. What I can comment on is that if social media was a trigger he was well on top of it for a while because from November to about April he was extremely prolific.
 

Thatsmyname

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And as others have pointed out, a lot more complex than the training surface. Happy for you to quote any recent player rumblings about the training surface. Optus oval is copping it so players will make comments but all we hear is crickets chirping from the CFC.
9 years
 

Thatsmyname

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There were rumours about it a few years. The only player who i read publicly comment on it was Sidebottom who laughed it off when asked about it. And frankly even if the rumours of the player concerns were correct, I doubt too many of them are experts on the injury producing effects of a slightly harder than usual training surface.
9 years, and I heard very differently
 

Thatsmyname

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Taylor Adams confirms he will definitely return against the Giants & is touch & go for next week’s clash with the Eagles.


 

Thatsmyname

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And we didn't move training from Gosch's paddock till mid 2013 or early 2014 so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
In 2008 Gosch's came under the management of Melbourne and Olympic Parks, having previously been under the control of the City of Melbourne.

Over 2009/10 the Number 2 Oval was upgraded for the benefit of Melbourne Football Club, Melbourne Storm and Melbourne Victory. The Number 1 Oval served as Collingwood Football Club's training ground between 2007-12.
 

jmac70

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In 2008 Gosch's came under the management of Melbourne and Olympic Parks, having previously been under the control of the City of Melbourne.

Over 2009/10 the Number 2 Oval was upgraded for the benefit of Melbourne Football Club, Melbourne Storm and Melbourne Victory. The Number 1 Oval served as Collingwood Football Club's training ground between 2007-12.
Number 2s is a good spot for the Dees.
 

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jackcass

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I don't think they will risk flying him over to Perth even if he is right for next week. Same with Howe.

Hopefully, both back for the GWS game.
Doubt the Perth flight would come into their thinking with Adams. Might be more circumspect with Howe.
 

Finnishpie

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Our injury list is starting to remind me of last year.

Not long before we see madgen and Oxley!
 

barrackers

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Injuries, but not many changes or players used across the season so far. Possibly suggests that our injuries have been longer term and either our depth players have came in and done their job, we prefer to maintain a consistent 22 or we don't have much pressure below for spots (likely a mix of all three).



 
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DaVe86

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Interesting how we use Darcy Moore this week.

There is no doubt teams are dragging him away from the contest. So it's up to him and the coaching group now to see how they deal with that.

It's something Jeremy McGovern would cop every week. McGovern however seems to dictate his position and doesn't get drawn out by his opponent. It's a risk because it means you can spot up his opponent on the lead.

However, the Eagles rely on strong pressure down the ground to force long bombs inside 50, which allows McGovern to peel off.

I think the biggest problem for Darcy the last 2 weeks has been the lack of pressure up the field. Both the Doggies and Kangaroos were able to waltz out of our attacking 50 with no pressure and cut through our midfield.

So in summary, the midfield and forward line need to put more pressure on to allow Darcy Moore to take a more attacking position. Scharenberg also needs to take the 2nd best forward.

Playing at the MCG will help I think.
 

Kirby

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Interesting how we use Darcy Moore this week.

There is no doubt teams are dragging him away from the contest. So it's up to him and the coaching group now to see how they deal with that.

It's something Jeremy McGovern would cop every week. McGovern however seems to dictate his position and doesn't get drawn out by his opponent. It's a risk because it means you can spot up his opponent on the lead.

However, the Eagles rely on strong pressure down the ground to force long bombs inside 50, which allows McGovern to peel off.

I think the biggest problem for Darcy the last 2 weeks has been the lack of pressure up the field. Both the Doggies and Kangaroos were able to waltz out of our attacking 50 with no pressure and cut through our midfield.

So in summary, the midfield and forward line need to put more pressure on to allow Darcy Moore to take a more attacking position. Scharenberg also needs to take the 2nd best forward.

Playing at the MCG will help I think.
100% spot on mate. Great post.
 

The Royal Sampler

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Interesting how we use Darcy Moore this week.

There is no doubt teams are dragging him away from the contest. So it's up to him and the coaching group now to see how they deal with that.

It's something Jeremy McGovern would cop every week. McGovern however seems to dictate his position and doesn't get drawn out by his opponent. It's a risk because it means you can spot up his opponent on the lead.

However, the Eagles rely on strong pressure down the ground to force long bombs inside 50, which allows McGovern to peel off.

I think the biggest problem for Darcy the last 2 weeks has been the lack of pressure up the field. Both the Doggies and Kangaroos were able to waltz out of our attacking 50 with no pressure and cut through our midfield.

So in summary, the midfield and forward line need to put more pressure on to allow Darcy Moore to take a more attacking position. Scharenberg also needs to take the 2nd best forward.

Playing at the MCG will help I think.
It’s going to be particularly tough while our best intercept defenders in Howe and Langdon are both out. Hopefully Scharenberg can provide support if they go to great lengths to kick it away from Moore.
 

loki04

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Hang on, Dunn, Reid, Murray, Wells - key positions and/or speedthat we’re missing.

Criminal? I think not.
So relying on perennially injured based off history Reid/Wells and having Dunn and Wells wrong side of 32... (higher chance of body breaking down) and an unproven rookie is covering your bases? For kpp and pace?
Its a gamble at best.
 

Boris the Contradiction

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Interesting how we use Darcy Moore this week.

There is no doubt teams are dragging him away from the contest. So it's up to him and the coaching group now to see how they deal with that.

It's something Jeremy McGovern would cop every week. McGovern however seems to dictate his position and doesn't get drawn out by his opponent. It's a risk because it means you can spot up his opponent on the lead.

However, the Eagles rely on strong pressure down the ground to force long bombs inside 50, which allows McGovern to peel off.

I think the biggest problem for Darcy the last 2 weeks has been the lack of pressure up the field. Both the Doggies and Kangaroos were able to waltz out of our attacking 50 with no pressure and cut through our midfield.

So in summary, the midfield and forward line need to put more pressure on to allow Darcy Moore to take a more attacking position. Scharenberg also needs to take the 2nd best forward.

Playing at the MCG will help I think.
Your last sentence is crucial.

Our game plan relies so heavily on the switch off half back.

This is so much harder to doon smaller grounds, even with all your better uses available, because the opposition players don't have to run as far to take up the correct positions to clog up the ground.

The result is slow, stagnant, stuttering football, or a shift to corridor football mid game, which is either long kicks and risky, or short careful kicks which is safer, but slow and lets the opponent set itself.

I think we'll see an improvement this week.
 

Thatsmyname

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At least we now have five players officially off the injury list this week (Elliott, Aish, Sier, Wills, Quaynor).
Yep, trimmed the unavailable to this now:

Adams Greenwood Langdon Stephenson Howe Beams Wells Reid Dunn Murphy Kelly Murray

oh err yeah well you know
 
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