D4 Section Ammos pt 1 (2005-2007)

[Ruck Machine]

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So the boys at BHN thought the sharks were pretty good huh?

They were impressive, hard at the footy and the man (nothing dirty). David Payne had about 50 possessions, M. Viola and Cresswell were also very good for Eley Park. Not much in the ruck department. They do tend to run out of legs, cramping early and often.

Eley Park smashed Bulleen and Albert Park had a comfortable win over Bulleen. I think this is a sign that Eley Park are on the improve (either that or Bulleen had a really bad week when the played them).

 

[bigwaz]

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They were impressive, hard at the footy and the man (nothing dirty). David Payne had about 50 possessions, M. Viloa and Cresswell were also very good for Eley Park. Not much in the ruck department. They do tend to run out of legs, cramping early and often.

Eley Park smashed Bulleen and Albert Park had a comfortable win over Bulleen. I think this is a sign that Eley Park are on the improve (either that or Bulleen had a really bad week when the played them).

Hmm. Thanks for that...Its been handy having you guys play our team the week before all season. A good measuring stick so to speak.

 

[hitdatarget]

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Hmm. Thanks for that...Its been handy having you guys play our team the week before all season. A good measuring stick so to speak.

Would not say good measuring stick Waz. From other scribes it seems Eley Park were better then Box Hill on Saturday and only strengthens the following selections which will give the mountainmen a huge advantage in fourth place.
Tigers take on Syndal. Maybe Sth Morn but wheels are almost off.
Snakes host Sharks. Should be a ripsnorter. Home team perhaps.
Sainters to rebuild some momentum at Cobras expense.
Uni boys to be too strong for Nth Brunnie.
MOrals of the round. Falcons to easily take care of Box Hill.

 

[oldobserver]

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I will say one thing in their favour, or more to the point, in their defense.
I hear the leadership is somewhat indecisive in what should be interpreted.
If what I hear is true, interpretations are being made to suit poor umpiring rather than saying this is the way it is done, now do it.
If the head is making poor decisions, it is natural that the body will fail.
I hope umpires wanting to do things the right way aren't being held back to cater for those who can't or won't cut the mustard.

I have said here before that I go down to watch RC,I also go to the alphabet grade at times so I see the umps up there,no doubt their is a difference in the alphabet umps to D4;I could,but won't,name at least 2 D4 blokes that still rundown to take the marks their mate has set and cover the square,but sometimes their partners don't respond in kind.These 2 are also the ones in most control and from what i hear from the boundry they are pretty pleasant with the players,please and thanks and call what the frees are for.Even if I don't agree sometimes,they seem to get it reasonably right.
Maybe spy has something,are there some that try and are being held back?,I gather that some here are coaches by their comments,one has openly put his name to his posts,do you have a coaches group? Don't know Goodman at all,never met him just see his name in the footballer,maybe an approach by D4 coaches to discuss might be the go?

 

[sixty5]

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Bugger this, it's Tuesday and people are putting their tips in already...


Round 15

UHS-VU over North Brunswick
South Mornington over Syndal
Richmond over Eley Park
Bulleen over St Marys
Eltham over Mt Lilydale
Box Hill over Albert Park


Round 16

Richmond over Albert Park
North Brunswick over South Mornington
Eltham over UHS-VU
St Marys over Box Hill
Syndal over Eley Park
Bulleen over Mt Lilydale


Round 17

UHS-VU over South Mornington
North Brunswick over Eley Park
Bulleen over Eltham
Richmond over St Marys
Box Hill over Mt Lilydale
Albert Park over Syndal


Round 18

Mt Lilydale over Eley Park
Box Hill over Syndal
Eltham over South Mornington
St Marys over Albert Park
Bulleen over North Brunswick
UHS-VU over Richmond


Well I figured people are putting in tips early, I'll go the whole hog and put me tips in for the rest of the season ay...


huru

 

[bigwaz]

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Would not say good measuring stick Waz. From other scribes it seems Eley Park were better then Box Hill on Saturday and only strengthens the following selections which will give the mountainmen a huge advantage in fourth place.
Tigers take on Syndal. Maybe Sth Morn but wheels are almost off.
Snakes host Sharks. Should be a ripsnorter. Home team perhaps.
Sainters to rebuild some momentum at Cobras expense.
Uni boys to be too strong for Nth Brunnie.
MOrals of the round. Falcons to easily take care of Box Hill.

sharks host the snakes. home team to win?

 

[bigwaz]

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Bugger this, it's Tuesday and people are putting their tips in already...


Round 15

UHS-VU over North Brunswick
South Mornington over Syndal
Richmond over Eley Park
Bulleen over St Marys
Eltham over Mt Lilydale
Box Hill over Albert Park


Round 16

Richmond over Albert Park
North Brunswick over South Mornington
Eltham over UHS-VU
St Marys over Box Hill
Syndal over Eley Park
Bulleen over Mt Lilydale


Round 17

UHS-VU over South Mornington
North Brunswick over Eley Park
Bulleen over Eltham
Richmond over St Marys
Box Hill over Mt Lilydale
Albert Park over Syndal


Round 18

Mt Lilydale over Eley Park
Box Hill over Syndal
Eltham over South Mornington
St Marys over Albert Park
Bulleen over North Brunswick
UHS-VU over Richmond


Well I figured people are putting in tips early, I'll go the whole hog and put me tips in for the rest of the season ay...


huru

I like your tipping 65... the snakes finish 6th!. And with an away win over st marys to boot Bulleen have a pretty strong run home as well

 

[Manny]

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I have said here before that I go down to watch RC,I also go to the alphabet grade at times so I see the umps up there,no doubt their is a difference in the alphabet umps to D4;I could,but won't,name at least 2 D4 blokes that still rundown to take the marks their mate has set and cover the square,but sometimes their partners don't respond in kind.These 2 are also the ones in most control and from what i hear from the boundry they are pretty pleasant with the players,please and thanks and call what the frees are for.Even if I don't agree sometimes,they seem to get it reasonably right.
Maybe spy has something,are there some that try and are being held back?,I gather that some here are coaches by their comments,one has openly put his name to his posts,do you have a coaches group? Don't know Goodman at all,never met him just see his name in the footballer,maybe an approach by D4 coaches to discuss might be the go?

Short answer to your question, NO we do not have a coaches group and apart from Saturdays we do not get together other than preseason at VAFA function.

Umpires, you could speak to people from any grade or other leagues and you'll have complaints, they are officials who make decisions where some agree and some dont. I am concerned that umpire numbers are dwindling and would hate to get to a situation where senior games are umpired by club umpires as per ressies.

I strongly demand from my players that they do not get into verbal confrontations with umpires - not all have heeded my demands during the year and they have been benched. Not a lot we can do about supporters, but we can educate our own players and officials.

I'll probably get howled down, but I strongly believe that officials including coaches should be charged with abusive language out of the coaches box/area should be reported and if found guilty suspended - just like players. Definition of an official - Anyone in coaches area/box or carrying out an official task, or known to be an office bearer.

We all have to admit that our respective clubs have had days where decisions seemed to go your way all day, and days where you are on the end of the bad ones, but overall it seems to even out -we only hear of the game decided by an umpiring decision.

Their numbers are dwindling and we need to be very, very careful cause I dont think there is a waiting list to take Patrick or others place.

To conclude coaches should be forced to complete umpire reports every week - I think in the YVMDFL we had to complete umpire report and it was easy to be critical when you lose but I had more follow ups from umpire advisor if I was critical after a win.

Lets get back to talking about the game and forget the umpires.

Manny

 

[bigwaz]

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here here

 

[Brad Goodman]

Re: D4 Section Ammos

Would not say good measuring stick Waz. From other scribes it seems Eley Park were better then Box Hill on Saturday and only strengthens the following selections which will give the mountainmen a huge advantage in fourth place.
Tigers take on Syndal. Maybe Sth Morn but wheels are almost off.
Snakes host Sharks. Should be a ripsnorter. Home team perhaps.
Sainters to rebuild some momentum at Cobras expense.
Uni boys to be too strong for Nth Brunnie.
MOrals of the round. Falcons to easily take care of Box Hill.

Given up on subtlety then?

 

[keep_I_on_spy1]

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Would not say good measuring stick Waz. From other scribes it seems Eley Park were better then Box Hill on Saturday and only strengthens the following selections which will give the mountainmen a huge advantage in fourth place. quote]

hitdatarget - may well of been Eley Park seemed to of played the better footy, but could there of been some circumstances that made these teams more even then what ladder positions suggest? game day injuries, suspensions, missing key personal, kicking for goal all could of been a factor.
Dont write BHN off yet from making the Four.
Still plenty of games to go and plenty of surprise results to be had.
Great game played by Eley Park FC keep it up.

 

[akkadakka]

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was wondering how Troy Whiting was going for Richmond. I see he has kicked near on 30 goals in 5 weeks, but has he been dominating the best defenders or have they been mostly cheap goals?

 

[ItchyFeet]

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was wondering how Troy Whiting was going for Richmond. I see he has kicked near on 30 goals in 5 weeks, but has he been dominating the best defenders or have they been mostly cheap goals?

No Cheap goals. Most good leads and strong Marks with at least 50% being kicked 40+ meters out from goal! If only he was there from the start could of been useful in a few of the close losses early in the season!

 

[Ruck Machine]

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was wondering how Troy Whiting was going for Richmond. I see he has kicked near on 30 goals in 5 weeks, but has he been dominating the best defenders or have they been mostly cheap goals?

Whiting only got 1 goal VS BHN (the only game he hasn't been named in the best) and that goal was very cheap.

 

[ItchyFeet]

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Whiting only got 1 goal VS BHN (the only game he hasn't been named in the best) and that goal was very cheap.

If i recall that was a tough day for big forwards that day, quite windy and wet.

 

[akkadakka]

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No Cheap goals. Most good leads and strong Marks with at least 50% being kicked 40+ meters out from goal! If only he was there from the start could of been useful in a few of the close losses early in the season!

yeah i have played a lot of footy with this kid he can kick the ball a long, long way. Shows what a new club and new environment does for a player, he was struggling massively at Wyndhamvale, ended up getting dropped to the twos!. Lets hope it continues and you boys get a few more wins up this season. Im glad to see Danny Hickey coaching senior footy again, he is a good coach.

 

[ItchyFeet]

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yeah i have played a lot of footy with this kid he can kick the ball a long, long way. Shows what a new club and new environment does for a player, he was struggling massively at Wyndhamvale, ended up getting dropped to the twos!. Lets hope it continues and you boys get a few more wins up this season. Im glad to see Danny Hickey coaching senior footy again, he is a good coach.

Yeah Danny beens great for us this year. He's brought a lot of professionalism and structure to the club!

 

[bigwaz]

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was wondering how Troy Whiting was going for Richmond. I see he has kicked near on 30 goals in 5 weeks, but has he been dominating the best defenders or have they been mostly cheap goals?

He's averaging 6 goals a game. Not too shabby. It certainly helps having him and big Ned up in the forward line.

 

[akkadakka]

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haha Ned. Danny has been trying to get him to play for about 3 years, is he as good as danny says he is?

 

[buckaz]

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Whiting only got 1 goal VS BHN (the only game he hasn't been named in the best) and that goal was very cheap.

mate you keep bringing that game and goal of the big fish up, get over it!
was it you who was on him? if it was you did a good job, big pat on back for you

 

[bigwaz]

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haha Ned. Danny has been trying to get him to play for about 3 years, is he as good as danny says he is?

He is as big as he said he was. Not the fastest man on the track, but he is pretty hard to spoil. Has put on a mean tackle or three this year as well

 

[gazbats]

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He is as big as he said he was. Not the fastest man on the track, but he is pretty hard to spoil. Has put on a mean tackle or three this year as well

i'll drink to that.

 

[Ruck Machine]

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mate you keep bringing that game and goal of the big fish up, get over it!
was it you who was on him? if it was you did a good job, big pat on back for you

Actually this is the first time I have specifically brought this topic up in the forum.

Yes it was me who was on him.

 

[bigwaz]

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mate you keep bringing that game and goal of the big fish up, get over it!
was it you who was on him? if it was you did a good job, big pat on back for you

He did a good job in defense... hes kicked 6 or 7 every other game.... pity for us.

 

[spy1]

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He did a good job in defense... hes kicked 6 or 7 every other game.... pity for us.

Machine did keep the kid quiet that day. But then he also keeps most forwards quiet he takes.

Even though he only got one, you could see the kid was class and not surprised he is racking up those sort of numbers. Hopfully he is loving the club and can be part of a strong foundation for many years to come in the Snake Pit.