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Daicos - A Once in a Generation Player

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Peter Daicos – a career review and opinion piece for those interested in a player I believe to this day is still underrated as a true great of the game and a once in a generation player.

Why did I post this you ask as there has surely been other posts…well for a start I have only been posting for a little while on Big Footy, but as someone who saw Peter Daicos play many times in the flesh I am still to this day a firm believer that he is the MOST UNDERRATED superstar of our game.

Just Consider…..

In 1981 in his 2nd full season as a 19 yr old he kicked 76 goals from a flank (includes 12 goals from 4 finals)

This included Bags of 6,6,6,7 in 4 of his first 5 games

Another bag of 9 goals soon followed in rd 10!

Just imagine a 2nd year player at 19 yrs old doing anything close to this today!

In 1982, age 20 he kicked 58 as a flanker cum centreman including an incredible 7 goals in one quarter v the Roos at Arden st!

I know some have kicked 7 in a quarter before but how many from the centre and how many haven’t been from a KPF?

He was cruelled by injuries in his peak during the mid 80’s and reinvented himself in 1988/1989 where he played exclusively as a centremen and racked up 479 and 456 possies in those years. As well as averaging a goal a game.

Then in 1990 as a 28 yr old he had his greatest year kicking an incredible 97 goals as a small forward. More than just a great number, it was the quality of the goals he kicked that I will always remember as he had to manufacture the large majority by creating space, maneuvering opponents, kicking from impossible angles and outside 50 using the torpedo on several occasions and taking several one handed marks holding off his opponent using his other arm as he didn’t have the bigger body of a key forward.

To this day I believe this achievement is still grossly underrated – especially when you consider a widely considered average team won the flag that year. THE REASON – DAICOS KICKING 97 GOALS!

He then followed up 1991 with a lazy 75 goals after the well documented premiership hangover. This season punctuated by an incredible 5 week winning sequence coinciding with a late season comeback in which he kicked 8,8,13,6,5

The 13 goals 1 behind against Brisbane the absolute highlight for the year (by the way I plan to put together a video of these 13 goals which I will post one day unless someone can beat me to it!) as I have on VHS but need to get in on DVD.

1992 produced a more modest 52 goals but included his incredible goal against Richmond which earned him the GOTY he so richly deserved in 1990 against West Coast in the qual final with the greatest goal I have ever seen! Not because of the kick alone but the passage of play and the tense stage of a big final.

Finally in his last year 1993 as a 32 yr old, he only played 5 games due to injury but even then gave us something special in rd 2 with a stunning 8 goal performance at Vic park where the great Gary Ablett kicked 7 goals in an amazing duel..

Throughout the 80’s and early 90’s there were two players called GOD and they were Ablett and Daicos.

They both did things that were not only unbelievable but they did them consistently which is why their fans adored them and other fans admired them.

Now whilst I maintain Ablett is the greatest player I have seen, I also maintain that Daicos is the best in one broad category that is often debated:

The most skillful player ever, Period!

His left and right foot was so good he barely missed a target ever!
He would kick goals from everywhere, with both feet, bananas/snaps and set shot kicking was as good as anyone.
He has a style of goal literally named after him which is the miracle goals kicked from the boundary which he literally did so often it became rudimentary.
He would baulk as a rule, not blessed with pace made this look even better as he would dummy players to create space and looked majestic doing it!
He has the best collection of torpedo punts by a player in the time I have watched footy (30 years).
What player have you known that brings the crowd to a frenzy everytime he marked outside 50? The cry for Torp! Torp! was a ritual at pies game and did he deliver!!

Those that will question this are either too young to have seen Daicos, are blinded by Collingwood hatred or simply just didn’t get the chance to see enough of him due to the lack of TV coverage in those years compared to the last 20 years.

And before you say I'm biased, are Geelong fans biased when they say Ablett was the greatest...no. Again, Daicos is not the greatest player but the player with the greatest overall skills that has produced a career so unique and influential that surely must rank him higher than many of the media or so called experts have placed him.

Where do you rate him all time? Top 20 /30 / 50 /100

Thanks for reading!
 
i read this entire thing in probably less than 30 seconds, in the frenetic discourse of Casey Affleck in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, felt decidedly tense upon closing and had to take a short walk of my premises to return calmness.

let me guess...the darren jarman argument??
 

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Such a shame he had to play for Collingwood because it keeps me from truly ratung him, but yes, an unbelievable player with a combination of skill, smarts and underrated strength.

Loved watching him play. Nothing he couldn't do.
 
The goal he kicked in alone the ground against brisbane, while being tackled by Gastev, that was the greatest goal I've ever seen. After being pulled off his feet by one arm, he threw the ball at his foot with the other arm, and it bounded, and bounced, and bounced, through for a goal. Loved watching him play, the CFC should be paying him to produce sons.
 
I wholly endorse this thread. Easily in the top 10 that ever played.

People tend to generalize that kicking tight-angle goals was all he ever did. Oh god he was so much more than that. Greatest footskills in history.
 
didnt he do his lap of honour in his guernsey even though he wasnt on the list anymore?

was a great player, one that stands out from my young days watching footy.

I quite enjoyed his commentry too, liked him on that c7 show with mark harvey
 
I wholly endorse this thread. Easily in the top 10 that ever played.

People tend to generalize that kicking tight-angle goals was all he ever did. Oh god he was so much more than that. Greatest footskills in history.

Lord Jimmy if you are serious and not taking the piss - which I dont think you are - then you are a gun!

Great to hear that kind of appreciation from a non pies fan....just seems he doesn't get the kudos he should from many due to the collingwood angle which I know makes it hard to laud a player wearing black and white hence the reason for the stats to back up my opinion:thumbsu:
 
I didn't like his commentary at all, was a blend of calling and special comments. Foxtel 2002ish if I recall..think he got the axe
However I remember his early 90s goals, and hair. I remember him as a forward pocket player only though, and way better than stephen milne hehe
 

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A dead set champion.

I'd admit he wasn't one of the best off all time due to injuries but a real champion. This man is in a rare company who changed the way AFL players played the game. The Macedonian Marvel. His stats speak for themselves, one of my favorites ever

Best commentary moment i remember was when we made the 02 GF Daicos said on air 'Life is Bliss' :D Always has and Always will love the Collingwood footy club.
 
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Supremely talented. You cannot tell which his preferred foot was. West Coast and Collingwood had some awesome battles in the early nineties. I hated the maggots but marvelled at this footy genius.
 
let me guess...the darren jarman argument??

'The Magician of Prospect' Andrew Jarman was just as skillful a player as Darren was IMO.

I never really saw Daicos play (I was born in 1988, and only began watching footy in 1994), but from the numerous highlight videos I've seen, he was nothing short of a football genius.

The goal he kicked in alone the ground against brisbane, while being tackled by Gastev, that was the greatest goal I've ever seen. After being pulled off his feet by one arm, he threw the ball at his foot with the other arm, and it bounded, and bounced, and bounced, through for a goal. Loved watching him play, the CFC should be paying him to produce sons.

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Sandy Roberts' commentary of this goal is classic: "Don't tell me he's kicked that. I will not believe it."
 
'The Magician of Prospect' Andrew Jarman was just as skillful a player as Darren was IMO.

I never really saw Daicos play (I was born in 1988, and only began watching footy in 1994), but from the numerous highlight videos I've seen, he was nothing short of a football genius.



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Sandy Roberts' commentary of this goal is classic: "Don't tell me he's kicked that. I will not believe it."
That's the one. I can't think of any other player that displayed this skill level almost on a weekly basis.
 
I wholly endorse this thread. Easily in the top 10 that ever played.

Can you give me that top 10 that Daicos is easily a part of?

It's hard to believe he wasn't selected in the team of the century.

Saying that is the easy part. Now tell me: who makes way for him, considering guys like Coventry, Lockett, Baldock, Carey, Hutchison, Bartlett, Dunstall...etc couldn't make it (admittedly, Carey was pretty early on in his career)?

AFL Team of the Century
B: Bernie Smith (Geelong) Stephen Silvagni (Carlton) John Nicholls (Carlton)
HB: Bruce Doull (Carlton) Ted Whitten (Footscray) Kevin Murray (Fitzroy)
C: Francis Bourke (Richmond) Ian Stewart (St Kilda/Richmond) Keith Greig (North Melbourne)
HF: Alex Jesaulenko (Carlton/St Kilda) Royce Hart (Richmond) Dick Reynolds (Essendon)
F: Leigh Matthews (Hawthorn) John Coleman (Essendon) Haydn Bunton, Sr. (Fitzroy)
Foll: Graham Farmer (Geelong) Ron Barassi (Melbourne/Carlton) Bob Skilton (South Melbourne)
Int: Gary Ablett, Sr. (Hawthorn/Geelong) Jack Dyer (Richmond) Greg Williams (Geelong/Sydney/Carlton)

Coach: Norm Smith (Melbourne/Fitzroy/South Melbourne)
 

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As a Tiger supporter growing up in the 70's and 80's I built up an intense dislike to Collingwood (and still have it) but I used to marvel at Daicos and the things he did on the ground. Was easily ahead of his time with his goal kicking skills...probably his kicking skills full stop.

I said it in an earlier thread this week that Daicos would be carving up teams even more so if he played in this era due to the limitations placed on defenders these days. And yes I know that applies to all "old" players but players like Daicos would benefit even more so due to their sublime skills.

Good work magicpants :thumbsu:

EDIT: just had a look at the youtube of his highlights and damn he was greats. Brought back some great memories...kick off both feet, torp's, hairstyles, Tommy Alvin. All great stuff!!!
 
I got his autograph when I was 8 at the Ballarat Begonia Festival, and he called me "champ" and smiled at me when he signed my footy record. I felt 10 feet tall, went home and kicked the footy round the yard kicking "Daicos goals" until dark.

The guy just f***ing rocks, simple as that.
 
Saying that is the easy part. Now tell me: who makes way for him, considering guys like Coventry, Lockett, Baldock, Carey, Hutchison, Bartlett, Dunstall...etc couldn't make it (admittedly, Carey was pretty early on in his career)?

AFL Team of the Century
B: Bernie Smith (Geelong) Stephen Silvagni (Carlton) John Nicholls (Carlton)
HB: Bruce Doull (Carlton) Ted Whitten (Footscray) Kevin Murray (Fitzroy)
C: Francis Bourke (Richmond) Ian Stewart (St Kilda/Richmond) Keith Greig (North Melbourne)
HF: Alex Jesaulenko (Carlton/St Kilda) Royce Hart (Richmond) Dick Reynolds (Essendon)
F: Leigh Matthews (Hawthorn) John Coleman (Essendon) Haydn Bunton, Sr. (Fitzroy)
Foll: Graham Farmer (Geelong) Ron Barassi (Melbourne/Carlton) Bob Skilton (South Melbourne)
Int: Gary Ablett, Sr. (Hawthorn/Geelong) Jack Dyer (Richmond) Greg Williams (Geelong/Sydney/Carlton)

Coach: Norm Smith (Melbourne/Fitzroy/South Melbourne)
Perhaps on the bench in place of Diesel. Diesel was good, but Daics was on a level all of his own.

Having said that, it's hard to believe that the 2 greatest goal scorers in the game didn't get a guernsey either.
 
The most exciting player at Collingwood in my lifetime and I would argue one of the most skilled ever. Great mark, monster kick, low to the gound and impossible to tackle and sublime kick on either side.

This was a player who could score from ANYWHERE in our half of the ground!
 
Great player from a great era.

I think one of the reasons he is not talked about as one of the greatest is that he played in the era of Lockett, Dunstall and Ablett at a time when a bag of 8 goals was kicked once or twice a week.

If he was playing today and doing those things would be in the top 2 or 3 in the comp.

Not sure where I would put him in my all time list. Comfortably top 50. Maybe top 30. Not sure he was team of the century worthy though.
 

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