Mega Thread Dayne Beams trade (Its over, thread closed)

[76woodenspooners]

We trade poorly though these days adn that's not even the important decision making in the context of where we are right now.

Name one poor trade in the last 4 years?

(And leave Shaw-for-Adams out of it, because that's contentious and I'd disagree with you)

 

[weevil]

- Going to take a little bit more than pick 4

You can read "a little bit" so many different ways.

 

[IQ3]

Hope the pies don't blink first on the Beams trade. We must be wise enough to know Lions won't let Beams slip away no matter what. In a perfect world id love pick 4+Redden for Beams and a 2nd round pick.......

 

[jmac70]

You can read "a little bit" so many different ways.

Beams is our version of Monkey. Would you give up Piggsy and Sandy for him?

 

[jmac70]

Hope the pies don't blink first on the Beams trade. We must be wise enough to know Lions won't let Beams slip away no matter what. In a perfect world id love pick 4+Redden for Beams and a 2nd round pick.......

Hine hasn't blinked in ten years.

 

[iBeng]

If its about QLD then we can definitely discuss this with Gold Coast as well.
I go there for work all the time and it is only 50 mins or so drive from Gold Coast to Brisbane.

IF Dayne and his Manager really want us to be fairly compensated then I am sure if the deal is better from GC then he will agree to go there.

Pick 4 alone will not get this deal done. Draft picks are hit and miss and Dayne Beams is HIT not even close to miss.

On a personal note, I know a couple of Brisbane supporters and they are complete muppets.

Therefore its a good idea for you to paint us all with this brush, right?

 

[weevil]

Beams is our version of Monkey. Would you give up Piggsy and Sandy for him?

I'll give you the Pigsy and the horse from the second series.

 

[jmac70]

I'll give you the Pigsy and the horse from the second series.

I would accept that trade. The horse could play a variety of positions and Piggsy was a better fighter than Monkey anyway. Plus Piggsy would enjoy hanging out with Swan.

 

[iGNITER]

Therefore its a good idea for you to paint us all with this brush, right?

Where did I paint you ALL with the same brush.

Do I know you? I believe in my post I mentioned I know a few Brisbane supporters and they are complete muppets.
Clearly didn't mention I knew you or any other Brisbane fan on BF.

 

[jmac70]

Therefore its a good idea for you to paint us all with this brush, right?

I like your avatar (a lot).

 

[Old Spice]

When Hine was asked about our interest in Vickey, he literally scoffed and said 'Tyrone Vickery?' He then composed himself and said we had no interest.

 

[Reykjavik]

I'll give you the Pigsy and the horse from the second series.

I'll take that!

 

[Snoop Dog]

I was pretty happy with Derek comments.

Re Beams

I wouldnt want to be Warren / Swann listening to that. I would think they are trying to figure out how they get Collingwood something more thats experienced. Whether they can orchestrate something via Merrett and Patfull then all well and good but would think ORourke woudl have to be one option albeit he doesnt fix the experience issue. Maybe sending ORourke to North and Greenwood to Pies.

Collingwood
Gain - Greenwood and pick 4
Lose - Beams

Brisbane
Gain - Beams
Lose - pick 4 and Patfull or Merrett

GWS
Gain - Patfull or Merrett
Lose - ORourke

North
Gain - ORourke
Lose - Greenwood

If the mail on Greenwood is true and that North cant afford him the value they can expect for him is less than par.

Would also think a few picks in the above would need to dealt to North and GWS to get it done.

In saying all that I wonder if Collingwood wont make him sit out. I would think thats high stakes but you would do if you think you could swing him back and / or the Suns would be in the picture as a trade for next year. Possible but worst outcome is he goes into National or PSD next year and heads to Lions for nothing. Unless you could swing him I just dont see the point of doing that.

 

[Old Spice]

We draft well. The decision to bring in Hines was a very good one but made a long time ago. Letting Hine do his job isn;t decision making it is a non negoatiable par for the course. We trade poorly though these days adn that's not even the important decision making in the context of where we are right now.

Trading is a little different now with Free Agency. The best players are tied up and only that 15-22 player becomes available in the main. The cost of prising someone else out amidst 16/18 teams is a pretty tough operation when everyone else is all over them.

 

[Old Spice]

I'll give you the Pigsy and the horse from the second series.

What about that stick behind your ear.

 

[ksardog]

Hine hasn't blinked in ten years.

Probably why he always looks so tired

 

[jmac70]

Tripitaka was hot.

 

[Kramer]

Re talk of a Lions 2nd round pick, I really doubt whether the 2nd round selection will be on the table as they will need that for the abundance of Academy kids they will want to take this year (Andrews, Dawson, Hammelman etc) so unless the AFL is happy for those to kick in from Rd 3 (which I dont think the rules allow for) then highly unlikely as Dawson would get bid in the 2nd round and in fact all of them could be. Lions will wants Rd 2, 3 and 4 for sure.

can you explain this snoop, i thought the rules were that so long as no one bid on one of those kids before their pick at 24 then they could be taken from the 3rd round onwards?

 

[Lockyer24]

Could someone confirm:
- Daynes dad is out of the woods for the time being
- 5X800k is a lot of coin and would head turn a lot of blokes

 

[Unknown Identity]

I was pretty happy with Derek comments.

Re Beams

I wouldnt want to be Warren / Swann listening to that. I would think they are trying to figure out how they get Collingwood something more thats experienced. Whether they can orchestrate something via Merrett and Patfull then all well and good but would think ORourke woudl have to be one option albeit he doesnt fix the experience issue. Maybe sending ORourke to North and Greenwood to Pies.

Collingwood
Gain - Greenwood and pick 4
Lose - Beams

Brisbane
Gain - Beams
Lose - pick 4 and Patfull or Merrett

GWS
Gain - Patfull or Merrett
Lose - ORourke

North
Gain - ORourke
Lose - Greenwood

If the mail on Greenwood is true and that North cant afford him the value they can expect for him is less than par.

Would also think a few picks in the above would need to dealt to North and GWS to get it done.

In saying all that I wonder if Collingwood wont make him sit out. I would think thats high stakes but you would do if you think you could swing him back and / or the Suns would be in the picture as a trade for next year. Possible but worst outcome is he goes into National or PSD next year and heads to Lions for nothing. Unless you could swing him I just dont see the point of doing that.

Some really nice out of the box thinking here.

I rate Greenwood, put up some very good numbers this year and can slot a goal too. Has the ability to shut down a player while still winning the pill.

 

[loki04]

I think the dumbest thing we can do is look to short sighted and pass on pick 4 for a only a good average player just because that player is experienced.

Pick 4 is likely to become a gun and in a few years people will be lamenting it if we on trade it for a Mitchell, Sam Reid, O'rourke, Jaschk, Merrett (told he will be delisted), Platfull type.

Starting point has to be pick 4 and then something.

People are dismissing it far too lightly and if you all honestly think a Redden level talent will come in and make us a premiership chance next year you have rocks in your heads.

 

[Unknown Identity]

Could someone confirm:
- Daynes dad is out of the woods for the time being
- 5X800k is a lot of coin and would head turn a lot of blokes

Dad is in Remission, could be 3 months, could be 5 years.
Money is not that high but is in the ball park.

 

[PhiloBeddoe]

Tripitaka was hot.

Indeed. Was pretty confusing at that time though.

 

[RuFiO]

I'll give you the Pigsy and the horse from the second series.

In Gandhara, Gandhara
They say it was in India

 

[weevil]

Tripitaka was hot.

Died of Leukaemia only a few years after the show.