Mega Thread Dayne Beams trade (Its over, thread closed)

[hellfire]

The way things are going maybe we'll trade pick 5 to the dogs for Adam Cooney........Just a light hearted joke.

Although maybe with Griffen wanting out and Cooney looking at going to North we are looking at a way to get Griffen to Collingwood along with Greenwood and Cooney to North.

Could be something like:

GWS
Gain: Griffen, pick 30
Lose: Pick 4, Shiel

Collingwood
Gain: Shiel
Lose: Pick 5

Dogs
Gain: Pick 4, pick 5
Lose: Griffen

Do we have pick 30 or am I imagining that? Meh..

 

[MAGPIE2013]

imagine if we got griffin

 

[ilum10]

Correct.
See that's why I say does this work!

I don't think Melbourne deserves pick 30 in this I'd rather give them a later pick as they we getting way overs for a retired player and pick 23.

I'd like to somehow send that dud crispe to essendon and swap our pick 30 for their pick 20.
But how do we do this?

 

[Shade]

Welp and now Boyd wants out to the doggies.

ive turned around on the deal with crisp now

its clear we are getting bent over

 

[Anzacday]

Off the back of some errors being detected, I've changed it to this..

Pies get 5, 21, Greenwood, Varcoe & Crisp, lose pick 30, "H" and Beams
Lions get Bundy & Beams, lose 5, 21 & 25
North get 25 & lose Greenwood.
Cats get Clarke & pick 30 and lose Bundy and Varcoe
Demons get "H" and pick 30

If correct, we started out with pick 30, Beams & "H".
Now we have 5 & 21, Greenwood, Varcoe & Crisp

Pick 21 is traded from Lions to Cats for Bundy.
Cats trade it to Demons for Clark & they trade it to us for "H"

Does that one work?

 

[danielnajdek]

Sigh.

Boyd wants to go to Bulldogs. Straight swap for Griffen.

Yet we gonna get Crispo.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Could be something like:

GWS
Gain: Griffen, pick 30
Lose: Pick 4, Shiel

Collingwood
Gain: Shiel
Lose: Pick 5

Dogs
Gain: Pick 4, pick 5
Lose: Griffen

Do we have pick 30 or am I imagining that? Meh..

Picks 4 & 5 would be a serious get by Dogs if they pulled that off.

 

[Anzacday]

I don't think Melbourne deserves pick 30 in this I'd rather give them a later pick as they we getting way overs for a retired player and pick 23.

I'd like to somehow send that dud crispe to essendon and swap our pick 30 for their pick 20.
But how do we do this?

See amended post

 

[Subprime]

Welp and now Boyd wants out to the doggies.

ive turned around on the deal with crisp now

its clear we are getting bent over

Where did you see that?

 

[hellfire]

Picks 4 & 5 would be a serious get by Dogs if they pulled that off.

Yeah I don't think he is worth that... I'm just going off the way they are talking "unprecedented" compensation and the fact that GWS wouldn't want picks.

 

[ilum10]

Off the back of some errors being detected, I've changed it to this..

Pies get 5, 21, Greenwood, Varcoe & Crisp, lose pick 30, "H" and Beams
Lions get Bundy & Beams, lose 5, 21 & 25
North get 25 & lose Greenwood.
Cats get Clarke & lose Bundy
Demons get "H" and pick 30

If correct, we started out with pick 30, Beams & "H".
Now we have 5 & 21, Greenwood, Varcoe & Crisp

Pick 21 is traded from Lions to Cats for Bundy.
Cats trade it to Demons for Clark & they trade it to us for "H"

Does that one work?

Still need to add in that Geelong loses varcoe

 

[Shade]

Sigh.

Boyd wants to go to Bulldogs. Straight swap for Griffen.

Yet we gonna get Crispo.

It's frustrating seeing the likes of the bulldogs get a big fish while we get stars like Varcoe and Crisp

 

[Lockyer24]

Sigh.

Boyd wants to go to Bulldogs. Straight swap for Griffen.

Yet we gonna get Crispo.

We should be trying to get in on Boyd yet somehow our cap is tight....I assume we have frontloaded for next year

 

[MyManLynch]

Pick 5 by itself isn't valuable enough to woo an experienced player. Hit the draft and hope Peter Wright slides.

With GWS holding pick 4 then I would expect them to pass on Wright, however if they trade that pick to the Dogs, then Wright would be gone.

 

[danielnajdek]

It's frustrating seeing the likes of the bulldogs get a big fish while we get stars like Varcoe and Crisp

I know. Feel the same way.

 

[PIES 4 LIFE]

Catch ya buddy, club doesn't need people like you

So let me see if I understand, your position is to keep buying a membership no matter what, and to have blind faith that the club knows what they're doing. Jande has been a member for 20+ years, so he aint a bandwagoner supporter.
I have been a member 10 years, I don't think I could envisage a time when I would cancel my membership, but a bit of understanding for how hurt Jande must be, to be considering canceling a 20 year membership.

 

[otfc42]

The club put a timeline on Brisbane for last Friday and issued a statement after it. The timeline was so that we didn't get bogged down for the second week of trade.

So what if Brisbane is still at the table with us, it certainly doesn't mean that we aren't listening to other clubs.

With what they were previously offering of course there was no way that we would deal and I for one was strong in my opinions for a 5 and Aish trade.

Now 5 is on the table, with an extra pick and Crisp. A 190+ cm mid/half forward who had a solid end to the season, is only 21 and found it hard to break into a pretty competitive midfield.

The deal is fair with both clubs meeting in the middle and the Pies not having a player that doesn't want to be a part of our club.

I'm a member of our great club and a 40 year fan who can't wait for our season to kick off again.

 

[Jande]

How could our salary cap be possibly tight?

 

[Anzacday]

I'll be following suit if it goes through as reported.

"Negotiations between the Collingwood Football Club and the Brisbane Lions over Dayne Beams CEASED at 5pm on Friday evening"

We were lied to and unfortunately I can't support the current administration because of it.

Disagree, negotiations involve a two way discussion, we shut it down and made them go away.
They came back and offered Crisp.
The whole thing is a game of cat & mouse and PR spin.
Here's what I was told by someone on Sept. 25 "I would think the bulk of the Beams deal would be 4 + 24 with maybe a Crisp or Golby"
Pretty bloody spot on if it goes through.

 

[Ketchup]

It's a ****ing joke is we take that shit campaigner crisp. **** beams, **** Brisbane, **** them all if we don't get a good player. Crisp would be lucky to play in our vfl side

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I'll be following suit if it goes through as reported.

"Negotiations between the Collingwood Football Club and the Brisbane Lions over Dayne Beams CEASED at 5pm on Friday evening"

We were lied to and unfortunately I can't support the current administration because of it.

Exclusive negotiotions ceased.

As soon as we said we would start talking to other clubs they improved their offer. Nothing wrong with that. We put a deadline on the stalemate to give us plenty of time to work on other alternatives.

 

[BEEG]

Beams for Boyd how hard can that be?

 

[Swooop]

GWS say they won't trade Boyd anyhow, "under any circumstances".

But the difference is that Boyd and Griffen wanted to swap clubs.

Beams is not giving us that option to do a great trade like that.

Otherwise, of course we'd jump at that.

 

[PieNSauce]

I'll be following suit if it goes through as reported.

"Negotiations between the Collingwood Football Club and the Brisbane Lions over Dayne Beams CEASED at 5pm on Friday evening"

We were lied to and unfortunately I can't support the current administration because of it.

Stretching things to say they lied. Negotiations did cease! There was never a statement that no further communication would be entertained.

 

[ilum10]

See amended post

It's prob as close to a good deal as we are going to get.
But I still feel we should be doing better with pick 30 and that Melbourne are doing to well with losing a retired player and pick 23.