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How will Roos leap forward? North heavy-hitters speak with AFL on draft help​

By Marc McGowan

September 12, 2023 — 5.11pm



North Melbourne’s heavy-hitters met the AFL on Tuesday as D-Day arrives for a decision on their assistance package, including potential access to hotshot prospect Ryley Sanders.

Kangaroos chief executive Jennifer Watt, football boss Todd Viney and general manager of strategy and legal James Gallagher visited league headquarters for the latest conversation on how the AFL can help the club rise from the cellar.

North’s round 24 victory over Gold Coast meant they avoided a third consecutive wooden spoon but was just their 10th win in their past 82 matches across almost four seasons.

The Roos are still yet to lodge an official submission for assistance, according to sources familiar with the situation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to it being a private matter.


But that will happen in the days ahead, given the AFL commission would consider North Melbourne’s assistance request in grand final week, in a fortnight’s time. The league encouraged the Kangaroos to get creative with their submission for assistance, rather than simply asking for another high pick, which is what led to the Sanders idea.

The Age revealed in July that North were exploring options to gain access to Melbourne-based Tasmanian Sanders, who would otherwise be taken in the first seven or eight picks of this year’s draft.

The 18-year-old won the Larke Medal as the most outstanding player at the 2023 AFL Under-18 Championships. He has Aboriginal heritage on his grandmother’s side and would typically have been part of the club’s Next Generation Academy, but there were complications in him gaining official certification.

Sanders finally received his certificate of Aboriginality mid-year, but still does not appear on North’s NGA list. Current rules, which are under review, state clubs can match an opposition bid on one of their NGA prospects only if it comes from pick 41 onwards.


The AFL would need to grant the Roos special access to him, but if that happens, they are resigned to having to match a bid, rather than getting him for free, like Gold Coast did with their academy prospects as part of their assistance package.

Fuming rival clubs railed against North Melbourne gaining access to Sanders after The Age’s story.

The Kangaroos are strongly linked to Sydney’s Dylan Stephens and Carlton’s Zac Fisher, both of whom they would have to broker trades for. Another Swan on North’s radar, Lewis Melican, is expected to remain in the Harbour City.

Sydney’s exit meetings began on Tuesday.

Restricted free agent Ben McKay could also land North the No.3 pick as compensation, with the key defender choosing between the Swans, Hawthorn and Essendon. McKay’s camp has not given an indication to his suitors on when he will make a call.

Veteran ruckman Todd Goldstein, who played his 300th game this year, is a chance to end his career at the Bombers under old coach Brad Scott after Andrew Phillips’ retirement. He would join fellow big men Sam Draper and Nick Bryan.

The AFL gave the Roos modest help last year in the form of a future second and third-round pick, which needed to be used in a trade, and extra rookie-list spots. They used those selections to bring in Griffin Logue and Darcy Tucker from Fremantle.
 
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Pretty much a done deal.

North requested 2023 first round PP, Sanders (no bid), 2023 late second and 2024 late third as an assistance package.

AFL countered with Sanders (no bid) and late 2023 second.

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How will Roos leap forward? North heavy-hitters speak with AFL on draft help​

By Marc McGowan

September 12, 2023 — 5.11pm



North Melbourne’s heavy-hitters met the AFL on Tuesday as D-Day arrives for a decision on their assistance package, including potential access to hotshot prospect Ryley Sanders.

Kangaroos chief executive Jennifer Watt, football boss Todd Viney and general manager of strategy and legal James Gallagher visited league headquarters for the latest conversation on how the AFL can help the club rise from the cellar.

North’s round 24 victory over Gold Coast meant they avoided a third consecutive wooden spoon but was just their 10th win in their past 82 matches across almost four seasons.

The Roos are still yet to lodge an official submission for assistance, according to sources familiar with the situation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to it being a private matter.


But that will happen in the days ahead, given the AFL commission would consider North Melbourne’s assistance request in grand final week, in a fortnight’s time. The league encouraged the Kangaroos to get creative with their submission for assistance, rather than simply asking for another high pick, which is what led to the Sanders idea.

The Age revealed in July that North were exploring options to gain access to Melbourne-based Tasmanian Sanders, who would otherwise be taken in the first seven or eight picks of this year’s draft.

The 18-year-old won the Larke Medal as the most outstanding player at the 2023 AFL Under-18 Championships. He has Aboriginal heritage on his grandmother’s side and would typically have been part of the club’s Next Generation Academy, but there were complications in him gaining official certification.

Sanders finally received his certificate of Aboriginality mid-year, but still does not appear on North’s NGA list. Current rules, which are under review, state clubs can match an opposition bid on one of their NGA prospects only if it comes from pick 41 onwards.


The AFL would need to grant the Roos special access to him, but if that happens, they are resigned to having to match a bid, rather than getting him for free, like Gold Coast did with their academy prospects as part of their assistance package.

Fuming rival clubs railed against North Melbourne gaining access to Sanders after The Age’s story.

The Kangaroos are strongly linked to Sydney’s Dylan Stephens and Carlton’s Zac Fisher, both of whom they would have to broker trades for. Another Swan on North’s radar, Lewis Melican, is expected to remain in the Harbour City.

Sydney’s exit meetings began on Tuesday.

Restricted free agent Ben McKay could also land North the No.3 pick as compensation, with the key defender choosing between the Swans, Hawthorn and Essendon. McKay’s camp has not given an indication to his suitors on when he will make a call.

Veteran ruckman Todd Goldstein, who played his 300th game this year, is a chance to end his career at the Bombers under old coach Brad Scott after Andrew Phillips’ retirement. He would join fellow big men Sam Draper and Nick Bryan.

The AFL gave the Roos modest help last year in the form of a future second and third-round pick, which needed to be used in a trade, and extra rookie-list spots. They used those selections to bring in Griffin Logue and Darcy Tucker from Fremantle.

First article I’ve read with the truth about our “modest return” last year.
 

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“It follows weeks-long consultation from the Roos with the League around possibilities on assistance,”

This line is the most interesting for me. Seems like the package could already be decided upon and we are just putting the request in writing.

The timing of the story is interesting as well, buried amongst the Maynard shite show.
Another thing that North have kept in house and not let out any infomation like years gone by...........l love it...
 
Anyone got access to this article? It’s hidden behind a paywall and I can’t open it.
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It’s written by Marc McGowan who I rate.



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‘Instead of another high pick’

- when did we ever get one?? Are they sure they’re not mistaking us for GC?
It’s the AFL‘s way of saying don’t ask for a priority pick, you already have a high pick we’re not giving you another one so ‘get creative’.
 
Does this work like a legal case? Ask for an insane amount and hope the outcome is skewed closer to what you originally wanted?

Yes, that is exactly how the AFL operates, like a Bazaar in the dark ages.
 



How will Roos leap forward? North heavy-hitters speak with AFL on draft help​

By Marc McGowan

September 12, 2023 — 5.11pm



North Melbourne’s heavy-hitters met the AFL on Tuesday as D-Day arrives for a decision on their assistance package, including potential access to hotshot prospect Ryley Sanders.

Kangaroos chief executive Jennifer Watt, football boss Todd Viney and general manager of strategy and legal James Gallagher visited league headquarters for the latest conversation on how the AFL can help the club rise from the cellar.

North’s round 24 victory over Gold Coast meant they avoided a third consecutive wooden spoon but was just their 10th win in their past 82 matches across almost four seasons.

The Roos are still yet to lodge an official submission for assistance, according to sources familiar with the situation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to it being a private matter.


But that will happen in the days ahead, given the AFL commission would consider North Melbourne’s assistance request in grand final week, in a fortnight’s time. The league encouraged the Kangaroos to get creative with their submission for assistance, rather than simply asking for another high pick, which is what led to the Sanders idea.

The Age revealed in July that North were exploring options to gain access to Melbourne-based Tasmanian Sanders, who would otherwise be taken in the first seven or eight picks of this year’s draft.

The 18-year-old won the Larke Medal as the most outstanding player at the 2023 AFL Under-18 Championships. He has Aboriginal heritage on his grandmother’s side and would typically have been part of the club’s Next Generation Academy, but there were complications in him gaining official certification.

Sanders finally received his certificate of Aboriginality mid-year, but still does not appear on North’s NGA list. Current rules, which are under review, state clubs can match an opposition bid on one of their NGA prospects only if it comes from pick 41 onwards.


The AFL would need to grant the Roos special access to him, but if that happens, they are resigned to having to match a bid, rather than getting him for free, like Gold Coast did with their academy prospects as part of their assistance package.

Fuming rival clubs railed against North Melbourne gaining access to Sanders after The Age’s story.

The Kangaroos are strongly linked to Sydney’s Dylan Stephens and Carlton’s Zac Fisher, both of whom they would have to broker trades for. Another Swan on North’s radar, Lewis Melican, is expected to remain in the Harbour City.

Sydney’s exit meetings began on Tuesday.

Restricted free agent Ben McKay could also land North the No.3 pick as compensation, with the key defender choosing between the Swans, Hawthorn and Essendon. McKay’s camp has not given an indication to his suitors on when he will make a call.

Veteran ruckman Todd Goldstein, who played his 300th game this year, is a chance to end his career at the Bombers under old coach Brad Scott after Andrew Phillips’ retirement. He would join fellow big men Sam Draper and Nick Bryan.

The AFL gave the Roos modest help last year in the form of a future second and third-round pick, which needed to be used in a trade, and extra rookie-list spots. They used those selections to bring in Griffin Logue and Darcy Tucker from Fremantle.

If we end up with Sanders on our list, however it happens, of course we will be better off than not having him, but there is so much other cr@p around all of this.

"The league encouraged the Kangaroos to get creative with their submission for assistance, rather than simply asking for another high pick" By "another" high pick, you can only assume they are referring to all the other high picks that have been given to nearly every other club at some stage in the last 25 years, not "another high pick" to us, because we have never had one! What a surprise, they hand them out like candy for years, then when it's our turn, "draft integrity" and other clubs "fuming" is suddenly far more important than being consistent!

Also, why is it on us to "get creative"? It's never been needed before, why is it always us that can't just get what everyone else did, there has to be conditions and compromises. The AFL certainly didn't seem to have any "get creative" conditions when GC were getting assistance in 2019.

Or maybe they did, maybe GC had to "get creative" and tell the AFL which first round picks in the next three drafts they didn't need! (after of course first checking with Geelong, because they would be trading most of those picks they received to them for some magic beans anyway!)
 

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