Draft limbo.

[Jen2310]

 

[TradeDraft]

Doubt Reef would have a Problem getting on our List even with IF no footy is Played

 

[neilk]

Speaking of Reef..

Might need to sort his hair out before we draft him.

 

[Black_White]

Mark this down now. When the AFL kicks off the season again - you will see hype like never before, this includes changes to the VFL comp, TAC U18, the draft will be bigger and most of all the game itself will nearly be 24/7. No matter how unfortunate today is, this will make the game bigger & better.

23.03.2020


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I seriously doubt this.
Already talk of a senior list of 35, how does that make for a bigger draft?
Already, before virus, talk from the broadcast partners of a reduced deal in the future. They are not covering costs. AFL were talking to streaming giants in the US because they can see a reduced revenue stream from their traditional broadcasters.
Plus the $500million dollar loan they are seeking has to be paid back.

 

[Jen2310]

Might need to sort his hair out before we draft him.

Between Lynch and Dunn, he'll fit right in lol

 

[Harry O]

IF there be a AFL at all

Please. Let’s not jump to silly over reactions here

 

[soreplums]

With Reef this year and Daicos next year, no draft could be a disaster for us

 

[Apex36]

If, as predicted, the NAB league doesn’t run... it probably guarantees the pies will take Reef McInnes with our first pick. Unless Ugle-Hagan is somehow available.

How so? McInness is currently rated as an early/mid first round prospect. There’s always the potential to trade up the draft order.

Hard to spend a 1st rd pick on a player that hasn’t played NAB league, but the pies have had a close look at McInnes for a while now so they know a bit about him already

Everyone is in the same boat. I’m pretty sure we’ll be very comfortable in knowing what he’s worth.

 

[TradeDraft]

How so? McInness is currently rated as an early/mid first round prospect. There’s always the potential to trade up the draft order.

Everyone is in the same boat. I’m pretty sure we’ll be very comfortable in knowing what he’s worth.

He did part of his Pre-Season this year at the Club

 

[Knightmare]

What happens with the draft if no more footy is played this year?

Draft will go ahead. Clubs need their new players and need to get rid of their older ones. Though there probably will be a degree of conservatism with delistings, as it's hard to delist many guys if there haven't been matches played this year.

As it doesn't look realistic that the season will go ahead with virus cases continuing to skyrocket and showing no sign of slowly, the industry hope is that they'll be able to do some sort of tournament, something like the U18 Champs if they can at the very end of the year, that is if the law permits and things clear up by then.

The timeline of how long the virus will impact Australia is the direct factor in terms of whether there is any realistic chance of games and if so how many and what they'd look like.

 

[soreplums]

Draft will go ahead. Clubs need their new players and need to get rid of their older ones. Though there probably will be a degree of conservatism with delistings, as it's hard to delist many guys if there haven't been matches played this year.

As it doesn't look realistic that the season will go ahead with virus cases continuing to skyrocket and showing no sign of slowly, the industry hope is that they'll be able to do some sort of tournament, something like the U18 Champs if they can at the very end of the year, that is if the law permits and things clear up by then.

The timeline of how long the virus will impact Australia is the direct factor in terms of whether there is any realistic chance of games and if so how many and what they'd look like.

In the past we have cut players still in contract. If the lists are expected to be reduced for 2021 do you think that clubs will have the luxury to delist in contract players? Or will they be forced to just delist those out of contract?

 

[soreplums]

I seriously doubt this.
Already talk of a senior list of 35, how does that make for a bigger draft?
Already, before virus, talk from the broadcast partners of a reduced deal in the future. They are not covering costs. AFL were talking to streaming giants in the US because they can see a reduced revenue stream from their traditional broadcasters.
Plus the $500million dollar loan they are seeking has to be paid back.

Heard that Round 1 being played was really important because it netted the AFL $100million

 

[TradeDraft]

Draft will go ahead. Clubs need their new players and need to get rid of their older ones. Though there probably will be a degree of conservatism with delistings, as it's hard to delist many guys if there haven't been matches played this year.

As it doesn't look realistic that the season will go ahead with virus cases continuing to skyrocket and showing no sign of slowly, the industry hope is that they'll be able to do some sort of tournament, something like the U18 Champs if they can at the very end of the year, that is if the law permits and things clear up by then.

The timeline of how long the virus will impact Australia is the direct factor in terms of whether there is any realistic chance of games and if so how many and what they'd look like.

No One for sure what is going to Happen so pretty much a Wait and See

 

[Knightmare]

In the past we have cut players still in contract. If the lists are expected to be reduced for 2021 do you think that clubs will have the luxury to delist in contract players? Or will they be forced to just delist those out of contract?

I can't say I know anything of plans to reduce list sizes next year or create a way of cutting contracted players without financial penalty. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen, I'm just not privy to any of that side of the AFL's plans.

Perhaps they could with contracted players if it went that way organise for delistings, but then the players get paid out 50% given the contracted status. That could be something agreed to where all players in that situation still get 50% of that money.

My hope (albeit an unrealistic one) more generally for the game is that we get some big donors (think billionaire class) step up and pay for everything so that the game can continue as normal. Maybe it's an Australian, or maybe it's an American who sees the game and maybe even markets it in the US so that when games return whether it's late this year or next year, we get meaningful tv coverage there and they make back their money through some big tv deal over there.

 

[Knightmare]

No One for sure what is going to Happen so pretty much a Wait and See

The only definite is that there will be a draft this year.

That's the only thing that can be said with certainty.

And by having a draft, that doesn't necessarily mean it will look like what we've had in recent years.

 

[TradeDraft]

The only definite is that there will be a draft this year.

That's the only thing that can be said with certainty.

And by having a draft, that doesn't necessarily mean it will look like what we've had in recent years.

Guess with Little Underage Footy there be lot of Punts on Un-Tried Kids and more Mature Age Draftees who are in State Leagues as seen more of them

 

[Knightmare]

Guess with Little Underage Footy there be lot of Punts on Un-Tried Kids and more Mature Age Draftees who are in State Leagues as seen more of them

If you read my AFL Power Rankings, a lot of those guys missed last season with major injuries which makes things even more interesting, and without seeing that rate of development with no games this year looking more and more likely, there will indeed be a fair bit of guesswork from clubs. Each club has a scout who looks at the younger talent, so they'll be relied upon heavily this year.

 

[TradeDraft]

Could the Academies be in Trouble with Loss of Millions of Dollars in the AFL?

 

[Mick F]

Unfortunately, the only way at the moment is if you get it and survive then your body will develop it's own antibodies

Best not to be getting ahead of yourself in that regard

 

[Black_White]

Heard that Round 1 being played was really important because it netted the AFL $100million

From?
I read somewhere that Foxtel will withhold a $400 million payment this quarter because of the shutdown.
Seven to do similar.

 

[TradeDraft]

Smaller pool? Future picks? How will COVID shake up the draft?

What does the shutdown mean for the NAB AFL Draft and its prospects? We look at all the options

www.afl.com.au

 

[loki04]

Melbourne would be pretty happy to keep last years draft order.

The fairest way is weighted lottery system, everyone has a chance at selecting pick 1 or pick 18 (increased odds based of previous ladder but not guaranteed), if your lucky well so be it.

 

[jackcass]

The fairest way is weighted lottery system, everyone has a chance at selecting pick 1 or pick 18 (increased odds based of previous ladder but not guaranteed), if your lucky well so be it.

How do you factor in all those teams who've traded in future picks in 2019? Do you just allocate each team against where their picks were placed after the 2019 ND incorporating those trades and then do your lottery?

 

[loki04]

Whilst it would be a shame to miss out on the occasional year like Stephos first, but the way I see it, for every Stepho there 20 guys who are drafted, chewed up and spat out of the system before they are mentally, physically and emotionally ready. Even Stepho last year put up a pretty good case for being too immature.

Plus, I think it will help lower leagues as it will keep kids in state leagues for a year or two longer.

Ideally, I wouldn't mind keeping it open to 18 years but with a restriction on numbers that clubs could take - like they used to have with 17 year olds.

None of what I'd like matters thought, because it's been pretty obvious for a while that the AFL are pretty happy with the current system and are just looking to tweak it for academies.

You will lose kids who fall by the way side with no school footy and less enjoyable work like VFL/WAFL/SANFL games but little pay who then chase dollars or normal jobs and just give up the ghost.

Many people quit footy post 18 even ones who could of potentially forged a good state career and possibly later another shot at AFL rookie selection.

We are not like the USA which has a very good college system in place to keep the structure around the youths before the transition to pro leagues.

If they were to go down that route then it needs to be done properly not much diff between a 18 and 19 yo imo.

Any increase in age should also see an official under 21s introduced (AFL sponsored) Draft eligible at 20 with TV coverage of said comp (sponsors etc), rookie esque size contracts for those in the "minor" league.

Might be state based sides ie an SA Metro, SA Country, WA Metro, WA Country, NT, QLD, NSW, VIC Metro, VIC Country. 9 team comp playing twice a year and finals, or extended TAC comp to u21s.

 

[loki04]

How do you factor in all those teams who've traded in future picks in 2019? Do you just allocate each team against where their picks were placed after the 2019 ND incorporating those trades and then do your lottery?

The picks are tied to the team who traded they weren't guaranteed any selection (we see teams go from bottom 8 to top 4 all the time and conversely top 4 to bottom 8), so you do the lottery as per normal no need to change it.
The traded picks are tied to the teams who are drawn each round so if Carlton traded it and round 1 they get selected pick 4 that pick is then tied to Adelaide conversely they maybe unlucky and have Carlton not picked till 10... If they are perceived to benefit or lose out from it so be it.