List Mgmt. Draft Watch 2015

[GrommoT]

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[Donkey Magoo]

I predict Kerridge will play 0 games in the SANFL this season.

I suspect that we will never see him in the Tri Colours again.

 

[Rack Watts]

Not too bad, always nice to get an outsider's perspective, but a few things:
1. You rate Mackay too highly. Nobody here thinks he's a good wingman.
2. Where's Sloane in the midfield write-up? A bit insulting that Mackay is there but Sloane is not.
3. When did Talia re-sign?
4. Brodie Smith, not Brody Smith

Thank you very much mate.
I guess there's no point in mentioning Sloane, he is a demigod, you're right, I will expand on him.
I must have only seen Mackay's good games
My apologies, I was under the impression that Talia had re-signed.
I will fix up the Smith error, cheers.

 

[Draft Bored]

ROUND SIX
82. Essendon
83. Geelong
84. Richmond
ROUND SEVEN
85. Carlton
86. Essendon
87. Geelong
ROUND EIGHT
88. Geelong
ROUND NINE
89. Geelong

Wow Geelong have to use a lot of picks late!

 

[Sanders]

Got to admit, I have absolutely no idea how this Academy bidding thing is working.

Anyone else clueless and just pretending to understand by staying quiet?

PS and no, I don't want someone to try to explain it to me.

In all seriousness, it's as easy as this:

We bid on a player tied to GWS at pick 9
League says player is therefore worth pick 9 & offers to sell pick 9 to GWS.
If team wants to buy the pick (and get the player) they give up the points value in other picks
We then go back to 10, because the league took 9 and sold it to GWS say

If GWS doesn't want to buy pick 9, we get the player using pick 9

 

[FR0GGY]

In all seriousness, it's as easy as this:

We bid on a player tied to GWS at pick 9
League says player is therefore worth pick 9 & offers to sell pick 9 to GWS.
If team wants to buy the pick (and get the player) they give up the points value in other picks
We then go back to 10, because the league took 9 and sold it to GWS say

If GWS doesn't want to buy pick 9, we get the player using pick 9

You forgot about the 20% off sale for first rounders.

 

[Sanders]

You forgot about the 20% off sale for first rounders.

Not important. That's covered in buy the pick at the points value.

That's all it is, the academy club is offered the chance to buy the pick needed

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Emma Quayle i suspect also knows the top 12-13 players ....but the order to her is still a mystery a few days out ......this is what happens with 4 clubs in the first round having multiple picks

Which players will help shape the AFL draft order?
Date
November 20, 2015 - 4:35PM

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    Emma Quayle
    Football writer with The Age
    Clayton Oliver missed most of the pre-season through injury,Now, he looks set to feature very high up in next week's national draft.
    
    Just days out, the top of the order feels unusually uncertain. This can tend to happen when clubs have multiple picks up around the top and with Essendon and Melbourne having similar needs and choosing so close together inside the first 10, cards are being held particularly close to chests. Carlton and Adelaide will play a significant role in shaping the first round, too.
    
    That said, Oliver is the player that both Melbourne and Essendon seem to really like.
    
    From there, the same names keep bobbing up. It's just a matter of who goes where. Any of Charlie Curnow, Aaron Francis and Wayne Milera could go to the Bombers. Weideman too, depending on the position they too end up taking on his medical situation. Darcy Parish is around the mark for either the Demons, the Bombers or the Suns. Depending on what Essendon do, either Curnow or Francis could reach the Suns at six and Demons at seven too. Harry McKay is an option for all those clubs as well, while others around the top-10 mark include Darcy Tucker, Harley Balic and Callum Ah Chee, as well as northern academy players Mills, Jacob Hopper and Matthew Kennedy.
    
    A bid for Brisbane Lions-bound Eric Hipwood could also come quite early, while there's been some late talk about Adelaide putting their hand up for GWS foward Himmelberg. The Lions will expect a bid in the early to mid-teens for midfielder Ben Keays, with North Melbourne and Hawthorn a chance to bid for either him or Himmelberg. Forward Ryan Burton and full-back Kieran Collins are two talls who could slot in somewhere in the middle to late first round.
    
    That goes for them all, though. You'll see a lot of these names bob up in many clubs' guides, because this is the sort of draft where a lot of players have one or two stand-out qualities but either obvious flaws or not enough of the other things they'll need, making them hard to separate and place. Different clubs place different emphasis on different attributes, meaning there will be a big discrepancy in how they view and rate some of these players.

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    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/tradin...raft-order-20151120-gl3u0y.html#ixzz3s47BLy8R
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[WaynesWorld19]

With not much separating Curnow, Francis, Milera, Oliver, Parish as midfielders .....will top 10 clubs choose home state players first?

Weideman still the wildcard for us .....in that which club selects him will shape which player we may get at #9

 

[Red mist]

Don't want Curnow. Don't want a falcon at all.

 

[dude316]

In all seriousness, it's as easy as this:

We bid on a player tied to GWS at pick 9
League says player is therefore worth pick 9 & offers to sell pick 9 to GWS.
If team wants to buy the pick (and get the player) they give up the points value in other picks
We then go back to 10, because the league took 9 and sold it to GWS say

If GWS doesn't want to buy pick 9, we get the player using pick 9

 

[Captain Furious]

Unlikely that Parish will slide to us but if he does, would be hard to pass up that level of talent. But he screams go home factor to me.

 

[Pdub]

Unlikely that Parish will slide to us but if he does, would be hard to pass up that level of talent. But he screams go home factor to me.

Worse than "go home" he screams "go to geelong".

 

[FAITH]

What pick did Oliver go?

the draft is on tuesday, we are talking about bucks ranking of players.

 

[Bazil838]

On the players time off Grigg didn't go away, he stayed and worked as a Landscaper. Gotta admire that really. I think he'll lift this year and give it a good nudge.

Could not agree more I see him as a 200 gamer, he's got that x factor called driven

 

[Grenville]

Don't want Curnow.

Haha, think there might be a few clubs saying the same thing after his night on the turps.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-...now-held-by-police-after-refusing-breath-test

 

[Red mist]

Haha, think there might be a few clubs saying the same thing after his night on the turps.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-...now-held-by-police-after-refusing-breath-test

Silly boy. Probably want to play with Good bloke.

 

[Bazil838]

More likely at 13/17 than our first pick.

Reckon we want McKay too, so McKay and Balic is what I can see us ending up with. If McKay goes earlier then Milera/Francis come into the frame.

I wouldn't be disappointed with Balic, to me he is a clone of Gavin Wanganeen, I think he will make an impact. There is an ever growing list of elite footballers with a state basketball background, Blicavs, Wingard, Grundy, Jenkins, Bontipelli, Pendelbury, Tippett, Maric, Roughead, Goldstein, Roos, Pearce, Shaw, Zaharakis, Montagna, Brogan, Gray, Henderson, all have quick hands.

 

[hendo8888]

Could not agree more I see him as a 200 gamer, he's got that x factor called driven

Only 14 players have played 200 games. And none of them were fringe players after 4 years. 20 games in 4 years doesn't scream 200 games by retirement to me, he'd be doing well to even reach 100.
I've never gone home from a game and though 'gee, Grigg played well today!'. At this point in his career, I should have at least a handful of those memories, and I just don't.
He has a long way to go before he can be considered a safe Best 22 player. And I really don't know even where he fits in the line-up if, he were to force his way in. Not great inside, too slow outside, no outstanding weapons, he's basically Matt Wright, without the supporter backlash.

 

[Mego Red]

Grigg played a couple of very good games in his first year in AFL, that made you think he'd be first 18, but he's not progressed since then.

 

[Danger Zone]

Any word on where Pdub is gonna go? Will he still be available at 13?

 

[Bazil838]

Out of that lot I will hope that it's in following order
- Milera
- Ah Chee / Tucker
- Balic
- Johnson
I think there is no chance that Francis makes it to our pick. If he does, it's a no brainer for us. I also suspect that Milera will be off the board too.

Not Ah Chee fan - Kicking efficiency at the U18 champs wasn't good

 

[Thetrader15]

Grigg played a couple of very good games in his first year in AFL, that made you think he'd be first 18, but he's not progressed since then.

Our last game in Perth in 2013 (15 kicks and 3 goals), his first game in the showdown (2013) when he came on half way through Q3 and finished with 15 touches and a goal.

 

[Pdub]

Any word on where Pdub is gonna go? Will he still be available at 13?

My unbiased opinion is pick 1. I just think at 32 he has so much more life experience than all the other draftees and that makes up for his extreme lack of football ability.

 

[Paladin]

Only 14 players have played 200 games. And none of them were fringe players after 4 years. 20 games in 4 years doesn't scream 200 games by retirement to me, he'd be doing well to even reach 100.
I've never gone home from a game and though 'gee, Grigg played well today!'. At this point in his career, I should have at least a handful of those memories, and I just don't.
He has a long way to go before he can be considered a safe Best 22 player. And I really don't know even where he fits in the line-up if, he were to force his way in. Not great inside, too slow outside, no outstanding weapons, he's basically Matt Wright, without the supporter backlash.

Wright is tiny and can't kick over 35m.

Grigg is a nice size and a elite kick with a beautiful sidestep, not to mention a left footer.

Other than being the same pace, Grigg has many more weapons.