Recruiting Draft Watch 2021

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eDPS's 2021 Draft Rankings

Lore's 2021 Provisional Draft Order
Any issues with it please tag Lore in this thread: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-provisional-draft-order.1251001/

 

[ant555]

In reality there is simply a lot of guessing going on here .Even more than normal. These players have a very small sample size. The reason I am not all that locked in on any one player is there is just not a lot to go on.
I generally like to have seen over 3 games live and quite a few on replay before starting to form a strong opinion.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

While people here are going crazy, there's something I don't get.

Since the start of the year, Melbourne have recruited/drafted:

Majak Daw

28

Majak Daw

Age

35

Ht

195cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

D/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

5.7

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

.
Deakyn Smith.
Kye Declase. (Since delisted.)
Daniel Turner.
Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

31

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

.
Jacob Van Rooyen.
Blake Howes.
Taj Woewodin.

Yet none of these players have their own threads on Melbourne's board.

 

[faible]

While people here are going crazy, there's something I don't get.

Since the start of the year, Melbourne have recruited/drafted:

Majak Daw.
Deakyn Smith.
Kye Declase. (Since delisted.)
Daniel Turner.
Luke Dunstan.
Jacob Van Rooyen.
Blake Howes.
Taj Woewodin.

Yet none of these players have their own threads on Melbourne's board.

We have a very well organised board compared to many other teams

 

[TheGrizz]

Disappointed we missed out on Draper by one pick, but the reality is Collingwood played it perfectly.

It looked like for us that one of Draper or Taylor was going to slide to our pick, with Geelong seemingly keen on someone else. Collingwood realised they were going to miss out (with Adelaide and us likely to snare them) and then waited until Adelaide were taking their pick to trade up, meaning there was no way to jump them. We were screwed.

Also another interesting wrinkle, if Daicos is bid on at 2/3 like every one thought, Collingwoods pick 49 gets used up and they probably can't trade up. GWS helped to stuff us as well by not bidding on Daicos.

TL;DR - the draft is 2 hours of continual sliding doors. It hurts to get so close to Taylor/Draper but that's how the cookie crumbles. If we took Lord at 46, we probably were going to take him at 50, so it is not the pick is still a good one for mine

 

[doug85]

I question whether we were really that keen on Draper/Taylor/Howes. Not saying we wouldn’t have taken them if available at our pick, but if we were really interested surely we slide up to make sure we get them.

 

[TheGrizz]

I question whether we were really that keen on Draper/Taylor/Howes. Not saying we wouldn’t have taken them if available at our pick, but if we were really interested surely we slide up to make sure we get them.

I dont think the lack of trades has to do with teams wanting to trade up, but rather teams were really reluctant to trade back.
Even if we wanted to move up, we may not have had anyone who wanted to do a deal to move back.

I would have liked Draper, but it is what it is. I remember when we passed on Rantall and everyone lost their minds, you never know.

 

[doug85]

I dont think the lack of trades has to do with teams wanting to trade up, but rather teams were really reluctant to trade back.
Even if we wanted to move up, we may not have had anyone who wanted to do a deal to move back.

I would have liked Draper, but it is what it is. I remember when we passed on Rantall and everyone lost their minds, you never know.

If we rated Draper et al in the top 20 I reckon we’d be offering F2. Who knows? Maybe we were offering F2 and 45 but had no takers

I’m actually pretty happy we kept our future picks. We could really spin them into something pretty valuable next year.

 

[Schnitzengruben]

We have a very well organised board compared to many other teams

Blessing and a curse.

I go to other boards thinking "Where is X's player thread? Oh it's just combined in a thread with their Stadium dimensions, player astrological signs and recipes for Fettucine Carbonara? T-that's handy I guess".

 

[TheGrizz]

If we rated Draper et al in the top 20 I reckon we’d be offering F2. Who knows? Maybe we were offering F2 and 45 but had no takers

I’m actually pretty happy we kept our future picks. We could really spin them into something pretty valuable next year.

You can only trade up if someone wants to trade back, and with the amount of guys 'sliding', clubs seemed reluctant to do so.

I wonder as well with the Davey twins next year, we are going to need a lot of list spots and picks to hae enough to match them.

Only taking 3 picks this year, when we had 6 available, may have meant we weren't looking to take too many guys this year as they are guaranteed contracts for two years. Using 3 rookies picks instead give us far greater flexibility.

 

[The Prosecutor]

If nothing else, it's nice to enter next year with a full suite of picks.

 

[Bjchan13]

Did Collingwood trade with someone to get in front of us? What was the deal?

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Did Collingwood trade with someone to get in front of us? What was the deal?

Future third and the pick behind us.

 

[faible]

Did Collingwood trade with someone to get in front of us? What was the deal?

Future third and the pick behind us.

The above with Geelong

 

[TheGrizz]

Did Collingwood trade with someone to get in front of us? What was the deal?

Did it right at the last moment too so we couldn't do anything about it.

Smart manouvering by the Pies.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Reality is we have been giving away second rounders in years where the second round has offered good value both in talent and in live trades. We have been slow on the uptake there.

 

[Scottie65]

Will we be rookie Dylan Clarke

37

Dylan Clarke

Age

27

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

6.1

2star

HB

8.8

5star

M

1.9

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

16.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

6.6

5star

CL

3.4

5star

tonight?

 

[faible]

Reality is we have been giving away second rounders in years where the second round has offered good value both in talent and in live trades. We have been slow on the uptake there.

Someone posted our 2nd rounders for the last 5 or so years and it's really not that bad a run as you're suggesting.

 

[Bjchan13]

Did it right at the last moment too so we couldn't do anything about it.

Smart manouvering by the Pies.

It is, Draper looks like a player. I dont think he or Taylor should've still been on the board at that stage

 

[faible]

Will we be rookie Dylan Clarke tonight?

Unlikely, when they announced his delisting they said he'd train on for a chance to be picked up during the SSP

 

[Bjchan13]

If nothing else, it's nice to enter next year with a full suite of picks.

It is. F2/3/4 gives us most of the Davey points and we should get a good player in the 1st round before matching

 

[Zach Package]

So we #11 in the rookie draft but there will be a few redrafts before us including Polec with #1 which seems a real waste of a nice pick.

How left field will we go?

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Someone posted our 2nd rounders for the last 5 or so years and it's really not that bad a run as you're suggesting.

From the last 5 years including this one we have, Jones, Eyre and Bryan. 1 hit and two to be determined.

In the same period Melbourne has Fristch, Jordon, Sparrow, Bowey, Laurie, Rivers. That is the premiership level drafting we should be aspiring to.

 

[andleanback]

From the last 5 years including this one we have, Jones, Eyre and Bryan. 1 hit and two to be determined.

In the same period Melbourne has Fristch, Jordon, Sparrow, Bowey, Laurie, Rivers. That is the premiership level drafting we should be aspiring to.

Could include Ridley in ‘16

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Could include Ridley in ‘16

and Begley.

The period before then was quite good Redman, Merrett as well. That helps prove we should be taking second rounders with much higher regularity than we currently are. Especially considering we have been a pretty poor team throughout that period.

 

[andleanback]

and Begley.

Begley was the never the same after his acl. Was promising early. Quite disappointing the way his career went. There wasn’t much taken behind him anyway.