Early Trade Week Thread

[AG]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

Aren't Sydney the club that brings in the bad boys and repairs them?

I think all of you guys are being quite negative and unknowlegable. You don't think a bloke that has played for over a decade could lose 10kg of weight and gain enough fitness to play in one of season if given the chance?

The bloke is a star and would dominate if given that chance.

Though it would of have to be at bottom $$$.

Not doubting his ability, just his brains. We don't need a quick fix, we need to find a 5+ year FF. He needs to stay in Melbourne anyway.

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

Reid/White >>> Fevola. Would rather stay with the Reid/White combination and groom our own power forwards for a change.

 

[TRAWP]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

Not doubting his ability, just his brains. We don't need a quick fix, we need to find a 5+ year FF. He needs to stay in Melbourne anyway.

I'm not doubting we need to groom a 5+ year FF. But who? Jesse White we have been grooming for a long time as well as Johnston. Both of which have a long way to go to be a dominating FF. I would love to have both in the position to go forward in 2012 and be a top 4 threat.

Fevola will probably never come to the Swans, but what I'm saying is if he did. It wouldn't be a bad thing.

 

[blood_work]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

More likely in future Spangher and Reid will be forwards with White maintaining that back up role for both. There's not many other options with our list so a senior wouldn't be bad.

However, I wouldn't put my money on Fev, for his sake.

Beginning of this year I read he either contemplated or attempted suicide. You know when you come down that track you should be working hard on cleaning up your life and less focus on footy, rather life after footy.

His good, no doubt, but being in the Swans isn't a 360...and it may just be worse for him.

 

[TRAWP]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

The problem is Fev will be risky and he'll need a lot of hand holding which imo is not the best for anyone who really needs to renew their life. His better off looking life after footy and getting his life in order than including footy and trying to hang on to something that's clearly fading away.

The blokes still has a few good years left in him, hardly fading away.
He did a few silly things, nothing as bad as rooting your team mates wife or doing hard drugs etc. If Cousins can have a second chance of life and/or Krakouer anyone should.

Some may argue Brisbane was? As soon as his misperformed in a few matches he was gone, Brisbane wanted it more and more every week. The bloke will play AFL football again mark my words. And I do wish it was for Sydney. If anything he could bring a wealth of knowledge to the likes of Johnston, Reid and White.

 

[The Convert]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

A couple or more things not being considered in this thread.
If you have a one stuff up and you are gone policy necessary then you expect him to fail so why sign him. The money is not the issue it is the spot on the list he takes that deprives you of a youngster to develop. If we were in our premiership window nad just lacking a FF then you would consider it but we are a couple of years and a few players off our window so he is just a list clogger at this point in time. Develop our young blokes for a year or two more, sign some more quality youth and then in two years look for the deficiency and fill it to give us a real chance. Fev will not be that dominant FF in 2 years so a big big pass

 

[kickthething]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

Simply no.

 

[TRAWP]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

A couple or more things not being considered in this thread.
If you have a one stuff up and you are gone policy necessary then you expect him to fail so why sign him. The money is not the issue it is the spot on the list he takes that deprives you of a youngster to develop. If we were in our premiership window nad just lacking a FF then you would consider it but we are a couple of years and a few players off our window so he is just a list clogger at this point in time. Develop our young blokes for a year or two more, sign some more quality youth and then in two years look for the deficiency and fill it to give us a real chance. Fev will not be that dominant FF in 2 years so a big big pass

I hardly see that as an issue, of late our recruitment of young players normally find 1/5 decent. The others have been traded or removed.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

Facts are clubs will do anything NOT to get rid of a player like Fevola as quality like him are quite rare.

There is baggage like this that isnt usually made public.http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl...n-the-field-20110221-1b2j5.html#ixzz1WPTiIv8q

It wasn't just the stuff that gets in the papers,'' said one exasperated Blues' official last year, ''it was the constant battles with him about everything. He was charismatic and he was bloody good. But the same bloke would walk around the gym and have a go at guys because they were doing extra weights, or something. You don't need that sort of crap and we don't have to worry about it any more. Life's so much easier.''

 

[drivative]

Here's a player who could be great for us. I just saw in Sunday's Herald Sun in Melbourne, an article rating the 10 best Victorian country footballers. Matthew Sully is an 18 year old key position defender, who has also been reported playing CHF well. He's 194cm, 89kg.

I believe we're a bit short in the young defenders coming through, and someone like him could develop with our young brigade. He's rated 10th out of the 13,500 players, and is the youngest in the 10 by 4 years.

Here's the article:
Top 10 footballers
And another one rating Sully:
Matt Sully article

 

[CAS79]

What would you'se be asking for Jesse White?

Jesse White and our second round pick for Jarrad Grant and your third round?

 

[liz]

Jesse White and our second round pick for Jarrad Grant and your third round?

I'd rather White than Grant. I realise that White is still a work in progress, but so is Grant. In terms of positions, White might prove to be the large lump of a key forward we need to complement Reid and others. Grant looks like a very tall HFF from what I've seen of him. Certainly talented, but not the kind of forward you can structure a forward line around.

 

[CAS79]

I'd rather White than Grant. I realise that White is still a work in progress, but so is Grant. In terms of positions, White might prove to be the large lump of a key forward we need to complement Reid and others. Grant looks like a very tall HFF from what I've seen of him. Certainly talented, but not the kind of forward you can structure a forward line around.

I beg to differ a degree. Grant version 2010 was a lead out forward, playing inside 50 and took a ton of grabs inside 50. at that point everything pointed to full forward. It is a position at the dogs he would compete next year with Liam Jones. But you are correct, he will be the sort of Full Forward who needs to be complemented by another forward, a two prong attack rather than a single dominating forward Franklin style.

What he does not have is Whites explosive pace or ability to pinch hit in the ruck. What he does have is a natural forwards nous and a better record of holding marks inside 50 and just under 2 years in age.

Im a little meh about the trade to be honest. I think the dogs would be reluctant to go for someone who has a proven run of form with someone who has been an enigma while the Swans would be saying White can really play two roles, Grant can play 1. but if both players are stagnating in their current environments I can see it been a win win.

 

[J_Moore]

Is Jarrad Grant that guy with hair so thick it could probably serve as a radiation shield?

 

[Swansujelly]

Jesse White and our second round pick for Jarrad Grant and your third round?

you can the keep the 2nd rnd pick if you throw in 10kgs

 

[vonn]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

Let's not forget about LJ.

A FWD line of LJ, Reid, White Spanker and Goodes rotating looks delicious in a few years time.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

A question for anyone willing to have a crack at answering it. Have we really been that bad at drafting over the years, or is it just the fact that we've been so good at recruiting mature players that a larger portion of our draftees get cut because they aren't able to displace the more senior players? Eg, if we didn't recruit mature aged players, would we have persevered with more if our rookies and given them more time to hold down a regular spot

 

[awesummm]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

A question for anyone willing to have a crack at answering it. Have we really been that bad at drafting over the years, or is it just the fact that we've been so good at recruiting mature players that a larger portion of our draftees get cut because they aren't able to displace the more senior players? Eg, if we didn't recruit mature aged players, would we have persevered with more if our rookies and given them more time to hold down a regular spot

I'd say the drafting has been medicore for the best part of last decade but the last three years have been great. You can't really expect all the players you draft to make it anyway.

I think the issue may be that we haven't really unearthed a star player prior to 08 for 5 or so years so its more noticable.

 

[CaptainChardonnay]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

Let's not forget about LJ.

A FWD line of LJ, Reid, White Spanker and Goodes rotating looks delicious in a few years time.

Maybe next year but Goodes will be retired very soon.....

 

[CaptainChardonnay]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

If BBBBH can kick 35 goals in his last 7 games @ age 34 with very ordinary supply, Fev can too. Forget his age, it's not a concern. He's very much the kind of FF that doesn't need to be able to run all day. He'll get the ball just on muscle and genius.

My only concern is what he may do internally. Otherwise, I say grab him. Rookie spot & minimal costs makes it worth it.

 

[Jack2Johnston]

Re: Brendan Fevola?

Given we pride ourselves on club culture, and have heard from players such as Hanners that coming to the club as a youngster you see everyone has bought in I'd be worried about what sort of impact Fev would have on that.

His On-Field ability was never in question, it's his ability to meet club standards for things like training, attitude, and general influence around the club.

Swans have historically stated they have a No Dic$head rule, would hate to see us compromise it for someone who is undoubtedly a Dic$head.

 

[Swans_01]

Heard Paul Roos say today while commentating the game that the Swans would be attempting to improve their list in the draft period this year by targeting tall KPP players. Anything in it? Mitch Clark? Anyone else?

 

[StringyDog]

What he does not have is Whites explosive pace or ability to pinch hit in the ruck. What he does have is a natural forwards nous and a better record of holding marks inside 50 and just under 2 years in age.

Is that a serious comment, I doubt any tall forward in the league has the same pace as Grant, it is his main attribute.

Regardless there is no way Dogs would trade away a player of Grant's ability especially with Hall retiring for White, who let's face it is not gonna be much more than a football journeyman who plays 2 roles forward and ruck but neither all that well.

Could see Swans going after someone like Clark upgrade on White with someone better.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

To be fair, Grant is basically just White in red, white and blue. Don't go nuts

 

[CAS79]

Is that a serious comment, I doubt any tall forward in the league has the same pace as Grant, it is his main attribute.

Regardless there is no way Dogs would trade away a player of Grant's ability especially with Hall retiring for White, who let's face it is not gonna be much more than a football journeyman who plays 2 roles forward and ruck but neither all that well.

Could see Swans going after someone like Clark upgrade on White with someone better.

I wasnt referring to just pure speed but a form of pace and body clash to go with it. Grant has the speed but to date not the pack crashing ability White has at times, albiet to rarly, shown. But no your not going to make the trade, you have a guy coming on here chasing White I just put the name up to him as your dog seems pretty keen on getting White.