EDFL Div 1 Discussion 2024

[QewyP]

Who’s coaching West Coburg this year?

Oak Park picked up Hotchkin so if they don’t lose anyone and can top up they will be fine however nothing much in the 18s coming up.

Expressions of interest open according to their socials two days ago.

That's a good get, healthy competition for Elliott

 

[pull Ur sox up]

Well said. I'm guessing the other coaches over rate him, premier data lie about how much ball he gets and umpires must get paid by the big fella to give him votes. Go back to sucking up to the sporting club for more cash. Only reason you even have a club

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Someones upset that they haven't got a great sponsor like the sporting club ... anyways thanks for your support the other day when you went down to the sporting club for a few drinks cfc thank you

As for Elliot 80 hit outs 60 of them he tapped to himself and then kicks to the opposition.
Short past his playing day just a snipper

Dimech thinks he's good with his sling tackling my daughter can tackle better

Enjoy being relegated at the end of next season

 

[dandy redlegs]

They've been busy but they will need more than what they've got.

They've done more than WC & OP at this stage.

thats because if they dont do more they stay in mediocrity.
whats WC done or more importantly what do they need to do . you suggest they have done more than WC at this stage.
what has been done in your informed opinion.

 

[dandy redlegs]

Someones upset that they haven't got a great sponsor like the sporting club ... anyways thanks for your support the other day when you went down to the sporting club for a few drinks cfc thank you

As for Elliot 80 hit outs 60 of them he tapped to himself and then kicks to the opposition.
Short past his playing day just a snipper

Dimech thinks he's good with his sling tackling my daughter can tackle better

Enjoy being relegated at the end of next season

understand what you say about Elliot and tapping to himself etc but he is very good around the ground in contest work and directing the play. Ruckman from Moonee Valley very similiar . However l have always found that opposition ruckman when playing against both those guys are always valuable contributors to their teams. Opposition ruckmen are never shut out of the game.

 

[QewyP]

thats because if they dont do more they stay in mediocrity.
whats WC done or more importantly what do they need to do . you suggest they have done more than WC at this stage.
what has been done in your informed opinion.

In my obvious opinion:

They've parted ways with a coach after a year, and they've lost the last three grand finals.

I'd say they need to learn to play on big grounds on the big stage, maybe inject some new players, but I may be stating the obvious?

 

[dandy redlegs]

In my obvious opinion:

They've parted ways with a coach after a year, and they've lost the last three grand finals.

I'd say they need to learn to play on big grounds on the big stage, maybe inject some new players, but I may be stating the obvious?

Big grounds is not the issue. Big stage maybe but beaten by two great teams 2023 and 2024. But its great to actually have a team on the big stage three years in a row. Coach been there three years but one as head coach. Left for family reasons with young kids. Plenty of young players only going to get better for the experience. Thats my watch WC every week opinion.
Losing grand finals is not mediocrity. Not making them or finals is.

 

[Gremlin77]

Big grounds is not the issue. Big stage maybe but beaten by two great teams 2023 and 2024. But its great to actually have a team on the big stage three years in a row. Coach been there three years but one as head coach. Left for family reasons with young kids. Plenty of young players only going to get better for the experience. Thats my watch WC every week opinion.
Losing grand finals is not mediocrity. Not making them or finals is.

and will be there abouts again next season, no chance they don’t play finals again. Would be a plum job for a coach to walk into

 

[CouldNotPlay]

Someones upset that they haven't got a great sponsor like the sporting club ... anyways thanks for your support the other day when you went down to the sporting club for a few drinks cfc thank you

As for Elliot 80 hit outs 60 of them he tapped to himself and then kicks to the opposition.
Short past his playing day just a snipper

Dimech thinks he's good with his sling tackling my daughter can tackle better

Enjoy being relegated at the end of next season

To all posters out there, this is what happens to you when you stop taking your medication

 

[MPMonkeys]

I don't know how anyone could possible be critical of Elliott or Newell for that matter.
Two of the best citizens in the league, loyal to a fault and tough but fair competitors.

And the reason they often grab the ball out of the ruck is a lot of the time its the best option - they dont't have Harry Sheezel or Nick Daicos or Jai Newcombe running patterns and getting free. Most EDFL D1 midfielders are pure inside and are not suited to AFL standard tap-work.

 

[Turbos mail]

understand what you say about Elliot and tapping to himself etc but he is very good around the ground in contest work and directing the play. Ruckman from Moonee Valley very similiar . However l have always found that opposition ruckman when playing against both those guys are always valuable contributors to their teams. Opposition ruckmen are never shut out of the game.

A lot of footy people these days think ruckman are overrated hence you don’t see a lot of ruckman being recruited like 4-5 years ago. They often take take enough marks around the ground due to the style of play these days where it’s a short kick possession type game rather than kick it down the line to the big ruckman. Also not many can go forward and do damage either as once again a loose defender will often try and spoil the contest.
Contested Marking is almost a thing of the past.

 

[Del217255]

A lot of footy people these days think ruckman are overrated hence you don’t see a lot of ruckman being recruited like 4-5 years ago. They often take take enough marks around the ground due to the style of play these days where it’s a short kick possession type game rather than kick it down the line to the big ruckman. Also not many can go forward and do damage either as once again a loose defender will often try and spoil the contest.
Contested Marking is almost a thing of the past.

Newell can go forward and kick goals.

 

[leo tolstoy]

A lot of footy people these days think ruckman are overrated hence you don’t see a lot of ruckman being recruited like 4-5 years ago. They often take take enough marks around the ground due to the style of play these days where it’s a short kick possession type game rather than kick it down the line to the big ruckman. Also not many can go forward and do damage either as once again a loose defender will often try and spoil the contest.
Contested Marking is almost a thing of the past.

Think this is more an AFL thing than local football. As long as a ruckman isn’t turning the ball over every time they get it, which plenty of other local players do regularly, then the coach can generally live with the long down the line approach most ruckman go with. Though I would say the PV ruck dominance didn’t do a lot of good on GF day, but that’s for another thread to worry about.

 

[dandy redlegs]

I don't know how anyone could possible be critical of Elliott or Newell for that matter.
Two of the best citizens in the league, loyal to a fault and tough but fair competitors.

And the reason they often grab the ball out of the ruck is a lot of the time its the best option - they dont't have Harry Sheezel or Nick Daicos or Jai Newcombe running patterns and getting free. Most EDFL D1 midfielders are pure inside and are not suited to AFL standard tap-work.

clearly you must not watch the better div 1 teams play. plenty of running patterns and players getting free.if grabbing the ball out of the ruck a lot is the best option then Roxy and Fog have a long way to go. Grabbing out of the ruck a lot may in fact due to an inability to jump for the ball and Elliot and Newell playing to their strengths using their bodies. That being said the team game plan cant be benefitted by that approach and results on saturdays speak for themselves. Says it all really.

 

[Turbos mail]

clearly you must not watch the better div 1 teams play. plenty of running patterns and players getting free.if grabbing the ball out of the ruck a lot is the best option then Roxy and Fog have a long way to go. Grabbing out of the ruck a lot may in fact due to an inability to jump for the ball and Elliot and Newell playing to their strengths using their bodies. That being said the team game plan cant be benefitted by that approach and results on saturdays speak for themselves. Says it all really.

Great post dandy..

 

[Del217255]

Well said. I'm guessing the other coaches over rate him, premier data lie about how much ball he gets and umpires must get paid by the big fella to give him votes. Go back to sucking up to the sporting club for more cash. Only reason you even have a club

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We are all well aware the Sporting club sponsors Crazyburn. Looking back at their player points this season they averaged 25 points a game, to me that shows they’re all crazyburn juniors.

I feel your way off the mark there champ. Last Round Crazy played with 25 points and Roxy played with 32

 

[BlueJet]

We are all well aware the Sporting club sponsors Crazyburn. Looking back at their player points this season they averaged 25 points a game, to me that shows they’re all crazyburn juniors.

I feel your way off the mark there champ. Last Round Crazy played with 25 points and Roxy played with 32

His post was primarily about Elliott, yet you've latched onto a throwaway line about the sporting club..

 

[ZingerAbed]

Taylors Lakes recruiting pretty heavily and have kept most of their list.

Hobbs, Younon, Lock, Petrone all played at a higher level.

Puts them into finals contention rather than the relegation conversation I think.

 

[Del217255]

Taylors Lakes recruiting pretty heavily and have kept most of their list.

Hobbs, Younon, Lock, Petrone all played at a higher level.

Puts them into finals contention rather than the relegation conversation I think.

Great gets for TL

No relegation conversations for them. Who’s everyone’s tip for relegation? Everyone was on the money this year with Rupo and KP

 

[ZingerAbed]

Great gets for TL

No relegation conversations for them. Who’s everyone’s tip for relegation? Everyone was on the money this year with Rupo and KP

Moonee Valley, Roxy for me.

Tulla using their Strathmore connection well so far, interesting to see how premier reserves players will stack up in Div 1.

 

[footy2016]

Taylors Lakes recruiting pretty heavily and have kept most of their list.

Hobbs, Younon, Lock, Petrone all played at a higher level.

Puts them into finals contention rather than the relegation conversation I think.

Lock didn’t play a game last year and struggled in 2023. Yes ex AFL however don’t think he’s a massive inclusion. Good for leadership and experience though.

 

[Vlodrive]

Moonee Valley, Roxy for me.

Tulla using their Strathmore connection well so far, interesting to see how premier reserves players will stack up in Div 1.

Is it still two being relegated & one being promoted?

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[ZingerAbed]

Is it still two being relegated & one being promoted?

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Not officially but if East Sunbury leave the EDFL and Parkside/Caroline Springs come in then I think that’s what will happen.

 

[Uptherox]

His post was primarily about Elliott, yet you've latched onto a throwaway line about the sporting club..

Correct

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[Iceman27]

Not officially but if East Sunbury leave the EDFL and Parkside/Caroline Springs come in then I think that’s what will happen.

Have I missed something?

Where are East Sunbury looking at going to?


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[Vlodrive]

Have I missed something?

Where are East Sunbury looking at going to?


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Talk of a move to the Western league.

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