EDFL Premier Discussion 2025

[The Longblow]

I agree totally with tiered points in leagues/grades, however the points values of players drop too easily and aren't allowing for equalisation.

There needs to be a simple points application for a player based on their playing history:

HIGHEST LEVEL PLAYED
Home Club - 1
Never Played Any Seniors Elsewhere (Reserves and Below Only) - 2
Other Grassroots Club (Played Seniors) - 3
Played VFL/WAFL/SANFL/NTFL (Darwin) - 4
Played AFL - 5

No discounts until three consecutive seasons of service have been completed with that club (from the fourth season on there is a one point deduction until the player is a 2 point player).


This is pretty much what WA football competitions rolled out when player points were introduced (voluntarily by the SWFL in 2012 and others a few years later. The WA Ammos were directed to adopt a system in 2019 and they adopted pretty much this format. I was responsible for my club's point allocations and querying any decisions the club wanted to debate.

The system is clear and concise and we only had one player that we wanted to change their points but lost the battle.

On nearly every league forum on BF, we have debates about how many points players are worth. They shouldn't happen but they do because the system is over-complicated.

Dane Swan, Brendan Fevola, Noah Cumberland and any other player who played an AFL match = 5 point players if they arrive in 2025. If they play three consecutive seasons, they can be 4 in 2028, 3 in 2029 and 2 from 2030 onwards unless they move prior. By 2030, the player will be into their sixth season so their loyalty should be rewarded (and not via AFLV's method where they reduce by a point after playing for just six months).

If these guys move to another club, they are 5 points to the new club.

VFL/WAFL/SANFL/NTFL players who come to your club and weren't juniors or considered yours previously = 4 points in 2025. If they play three consecutive seasons, they can be 3 in 2028 and 2 from 2029 onwards unless they move prior.

If these guys move to another club, they are 4 points to the new club.

Anyone who played any senior elsewhere in metro or country football who come to your club and weren't juniors or considered yours previously = 3 points in 2025 and if they play three consecutive seasons, they can be 2 from 2028.

If these guys move to another club, they are 3 points to the new club.

Magnificent contribution Mortlock

 

[The Longblow]

Glass houses on here mate. Getting boring with the lack of material.

So true. Old Simmsy probably spends Saturdays in his pj's playing with his fella old

 

[weapons#again]

So a bit like what some of Keilor's juniors do, then?

I know my son would like to play in a better junior competition

They better find a new coach for the second 16’s team! coach and his feral wife got 13 weeks suspension between them for umpire abuse last week

That's where I come in !!!

Happy to help .....

 

[weapons#again]

When the league hands out penalties for cheating lighter than what a primary school kid would get for cheating an exam, they are saying go for your life.

Im not a fan of deer park, but they have never been caught, yet Keilor have and they still cop it. Keilor are going to win the flag this year from cheating again

Post of the year !!!

Congratulations

 

[Who are ya]

If you get rid of the point system then it is open slather for the richest clubs. It is the only control the league has over clubs to try and equalise the divisions. The salary cap doesn’t work because it can be easily rorted. I agree that there should be a maximum of two or three sides per age group. The point system was designed to encouraging clubs to invest in juniors but some clubs are just too lazy to invest their time and resources.

Sorry mate but points system hasn’t changed a thing in local footy. If anything it’s just about ruined country footy

 

[The Longblow]

A poorly run club does not have an annual function at Crown or a centenary celebration at The Windsor hotel. Deer Park is an extremely well run club administratively and in every other aspect. The facilities are always spotlessly clean for all attendees at matches and the visiting team is always welcomed into the club at half time for drinks and nibbles. I could give many more examples of how well run the club is. From the President down there is a host of volunteers who contribute immensely to the club and in turn this benefits visiting teams when they play at Deer parks home ground.

 

[Orfullrules]

Function at Crown casino is the sign of a good club.

 

[Bont the Lord]

A poorly run club does not have an annual function at Crown or a centenary celebration at The Windsor hotel. Deer Park is an extremely well run club administratively and in every other aspect. The facilities are always spotlessly clean for all attendees at matches and the visiting team is always welcomed into the club at half time for drinks and nibbles. I could give many more examples of how well run the club is. From the President down there is a host of volunteers who contribute immensely to the club and in turn this benefits visiting teams when they play at Deer parks home ground.

Didn't Carl Williams have functions at Crown?

 

[Gremlin77]

Didn't Carl Williams have functions at Crown?

East Keilor under Pat too

 

[skippy99]

Outer East and some other leagues have reduced reserves quarters from 25 mins to 20 mins. A bit more appealing to fringe players and a bit shorter day for match officials and volunteers. How about it EDFL?

 

[past panther]

Outer East and some other leagues have reduced reserves quarters from 25 mins to 20 mins. A bit more appealing to fringe players and a bit shorter day for match officials and volunteers. How about it EDFL?

Too many new clubs coming into the competitions is a big part of the problem. Leagues use this as a way to increase revenue. It’s not the answer and lazy management. How many new clubs in WRFL and EDFL over last 15 years? It simply is not sustainable.
Problem is new suburbs aren’t filled with AFL mad people and all it does is drain reserve grade players, who are offered coin to play 1’s in Div 3 etc. the player pool is no bigger and player resources are stretched.

 

[Survey]

Too many new clubs coming into the competitions is a big part of the problem. Leagues use this as a way to increase revenue. It’s not the answer and lazy management. How many new clubs in WRFL and EDFL over last 15 years? It simply is not sustainable.
Problem is new suburbs aren’t filled with AFL mad people and all it does is drain reserve grade players, who are offered coin to play 1’s in Div 3 etc. the player pool is no bigger and player resources are stretched.

very good point!

 

[Doona2]

Too many new clubs coming into the competitions is a big part of the problem. Leagues use this as a way to increase revenue. It’s not the answer and lazy management. How many new clubs in WRFL and EDFL over last 15 years? It simply is not sustainable.
Problem is new suburbs aren’t filled with AFL mad people and all it does is drain reserve grade players, who are offered coin to play 1’s in Div 3 etc. the player pool is no bigger and player resources are stretched.

spot on past panther

 

[jontyrohdes]

Too many new clubs coming into the competitions is a big part of the problem. Leagues use this as a way to increase revenue. It’s not the answer and lazy management. How many new clubs in WRFL and EDFL over last 15 years? It simply is not sustainable.
Problem is new suburbs aren’t filled with AFL mad people and all it does is drain reserve grade players, who are offered coin to play 1’s in Div 3 etc. the player pool is no bigger and player resources are stretched.

Add to that the EDFL lack of foresight yet again with the introduction of a 3rds competition when you have a struggling reserves issue! The EDFL’s inability to think on its feet is so evident in so many of the decisions they make and it goes way back to allowing clubs to have multiple junior teams at the expense of constituent clubs in neighbouring areas, the poor introduction of the points system and to have ZERO foresight that the introduction in its format was only going to benefit those that had strong juniors at the time, gave no foresight to see how they could best assist ALL clubs to achieve what the points system was supposed to achieve, a form of equalisation! You didn’t have to be a road scholar to understand what was going to happen.

Unfortunately whilst you have egotistical administrators at the helm of the league that concern themselves more with their own popularity than that of the clubs that they are supposed to be representing then this league will continue to be a downward spiralling competition.

Wake up and smell the roses and get people involved that are astute business people with no vested interests to provide opportunity for the competition to prosper as a whole rather than for a small handful of clubs.

Maybe not the most popular choice but the most sensible.

 

[ROOS77]

Someone's got an axe to grind. Obviously been on the receiving end at some point. Another nomination for numpty comments of the season. Wow!!

Long expensive road to being competitive in Prem div More than likely playing finals in their second season in the top flight. You'd make a great supreme court judge ya gooba.

Quite the contrary.....It's comical watching DP spend a bomb and get nothing for it.

 

[Flyingleslieskite]

Quite the contrary.....It's comical watching DP spend a bomb and get nothing for it.

Its all good, plenty of money
Especially to get Mike Brady to perform at their 100 year celebrations

 

[The Longblow]

Quite the contrary.....It's comical watching DP spend a bomb and get nothing for it.

Do you think Twiggy Forrest is relying on RM Williams to turn a profit. Get with it. Deer Park is one of the best run and one of the the most financially viable clubs in metropolitan football in Australia. Jealousy is a curse ROOS77 you should know that at your age.

 

[The Longblow]

Didn't Carl Williams have functions at Crown?

No that was Roberta. Carl went as her puppy dog...

 

[Orfullrules]

Didn't Carl Williams have functions at Crown?

Surely he is talking the piss. Free blue jacket and Sportsbet account on arrival to Best &Fairest ?

 

[Orfullrules]

Just a last question on deer park supporters. Is it standard practice (uniform) to wear a blue and yellow jacket with teenage jeans n shoes?

 

[bangfrom50]

No that was Roberta. Carl went as her puppy dog...

I'm one who thought DP might be able to do some damage in the finals but after watching them a few times in the past couple of weeks, there's a lot of Tarzan's(multiple Tatts) playing like Jane in that team Longy..... Couple of scaredy cats also when push comes to shove!

 

[ROOS77]

Do you think Twiggy Forrest is relying on RM Williams to turn a profit. Get with it. Deer Park is one of the best run and one of the the most financially viable clubs in metropolitan football in Australia. Jealousy is a curse ROOS77 you should know that at your age.

You keep thinking that

 

[weapons#again]

You keep thinking that

Boof your 1 in 4 posts slagging Deer Park fascinates me ....

Which club do you now support?
Altona or Spotty ?

Both now in the lower ranks of the wrfl .... Keep winning bud!!

 

[Del224367]

Quite the contrary.....It's comical watching DP spend a bomb and get nothing for it.

Remove the salary cap & let’s see the clubs that can survive.

 

[BlueJet]

Remove the salary cap & let’s see the clubs that can survive.

Remove match payments & see which club shuts immediately.