News EFC asks AFL and ASADA for probe into own training regime

[Tiger_4_Life]

Lot of crap gets thrown between Bomber and Richmond supporters, but this rivalry stuff aside - I really feel for you guys as a supporter base. This has spun me out tonight and I can't really understand any of it, hope for your sake that the investigation leads to maybe nothing more than a slap on the wrist (at worse). No supporter should be put through this crap....keep your chins up and dont let the actions of a few misguided individuals skew the view of your club

 

[The_Reaper]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...heres-no-excuses/story-e6frepf6-1226571176193

Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority regulations mirror the World Anti-Doping Authority standard - players and officials can face up to a two-year ban for a first offence.
"Under the ASADA rules, whether you knew or not it's no excuse ... they are the WADA rules," Demetriou said. "Under the rules, the way they are structured at the moment, which all world sport has to follow, they apply to officials and under our rules they can apply to a club.

 

[Keystone agony]

We are in trouble. As soon as Demetriou says that it applys to an entire club i get real worried.

Those 20% that didnt sign the papers, find a new club

 

[Phone]

what a day in football. can't wait to hear more about the sandy roberts saga!

 

[GandalfTheDon]

jesus we are screwed aren't we and when 2013 was looking so promising!

 

[VelvetSledge]

I can't fathom the disappointment I'm feeling right now.

I know we can't throw around supposed scenarios because we have no idea what the investigation will show up, but I'm really upset, shocked, and saddened by this news.
Even if we're found innocent, this will stay with the club forever.

 

[GandalfTheDon]

I can't fathom the disappointment I'm feeling right now.

I know we can't throw around supposed scenarios because we have no idea what the investigation will show up, but I'm really upset, shocked, and saddened by this news.
Even if we're found innocent, this will stay with the club forever.

too true. Even when we were doing badly during the season, could always take solace in the fact we were an honourable, respectful club. Seems like that's going straight out the window with all this business

 

[Jobe Watson]

Even if we're found innocent, this will stay with the club forever.

That's probably the worst part about it.

Even if we've done nothing wrong, this will be fodder for opposition trolls for years to come. It'll affect our memberships for this year, put extra pressure onto the current coaching dept., and we will be scrutinised way more than before.

I guess the only thing we can do is donate to the Flight Plan.

 

[mad_monkey_j]

If fishardansin is on the ball, which he seems to be being the first to bring this up, then I have absolutely no worries. Only problem I could see would be the injections but we'll have to wait and see.

 

[DapperDon]

I can't fathom the disappointment I'm feeling right now.

I know we can't throw around supposed scenarios because we have no idea what the investigation will show up, but I'm really upset, shocked, and saddened by this news.
Even if we're found innocent, this will stay with the club forever.

It only hangs around places like this where people will use anything for a good troll (if not guilty that is)

Anyway, I'm going to sleep. Hopefully I wake up and find organised crime secret injecting rooms was mistaken for daily visits to help homeless children with leprosy.

 

[GandalfTheDon]

That's probably the worst part about it.

Even if we've done nothing wrong, this will be fodder for opposition trolls for years to come

that's my main worry. Even if everything turns out as well as it could, all the collywobble and carltank supporters will use it relentlessly whenever we perform well during the season. If this turns out to be nothing more than "pushing the limits", and not actually anything prohibited, I'd like to see all members of the news reporting community get a kick right up the backside

 

[VelvetSledge]

 

[fishardansin]

If fishardansin is on the ball, which he seems to be being the first to bring this up, then I have absolutely no worries. Only problem I could see would be the injections but we'll have to wait and see.

The press is running wild right now. I think it is best that everything said by them is taken with a grain of salt.

 

[The Prosecutor]

We are in trouble. As soon as Demetriou says that it applys to an entire club i get real worried.

Those 20% that didnt sign the papers, find a new club

The waivers have nothing to do with it.

The only thing that matters is if players took an illegal substance or not.

 

[Keystone agony]

The thing i cant really understand is no one has tested positive to whatever it was? have they.

With what is said which may not be quite correct around 80% of the list took the supplement or signed the paper work (waivers).

Surely one of those 80% wouldve been caught under an intense drug testing policy these days done by ASADA

How did this all start?

 

[Keystone agony]

The waivers have nothing to do with it.

The only thing that matters is if players took an illegal substance or not.

Yeh thats what im saying. Those 20% that didnt sign wouldnt have taken the substance im assuming, as why would you?

 

[Jobe Watson]

How did this all start?

 

[The Prosecutor]

Yeh thats what im saying. Those 20% that didnt sign wouldnt have taken the substance im assuming, as why would you?

Fair enough, I understand now.

Detailed post with my thoughts coming up...

 

[b0ydman]

I literally can't stop thinking about this and what it means for us as a club.

I just hope another club is found guilty as well if the rumours are true and we can stand together!

Your club is fine

This is a limited hang out

They even muddied the waters for you with the party drusg stories to wear us down

Season starts next week- AFL can shut ANY media story in this town in 15 seconds, and they will

And why will they shut it down? Because every single club, and most every single player- and 99% of every injured player- takes P.E.Ds

Forgive my intrusion, but you guys are just having to pro actively cover yourselves because something is happening behind the scenes here.

Its possible that Essendon were just too obvious about it in 2012.

A few of us are worried how monster our players are becoming in this very "intense" off season under Ex Liverpool man Burgess. Issue again related to soft tissue management.

FWIW, we've been discussing this for 6 months over at our web page ( http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...d-sport-and-pafc.972243/page-11#post-27040687 )

As in, the moral argument as to why we wouldn't

Cheers, and don't lose sleep

$220k fine and slap on wrist..AFL issue a "whew, we got that in time and clarified an ambiguity but no AFL player yada yada blah blah hey AFL season starts this Friday!!!"

WADA can go eff themselves. AFL and its businessmen on boards RUN this city

 

[GandalfTheDon]

 

[VelvetSledge]

Your club is fine

This is a limited hang out

They even muddied the waters for you with the party drusg stories to wear us down

Season starts next week- AFL can shut ANY media story in this town in 15 seconds, and they will

And why will they shut it down? Because every single club, and most every single player- and 99% of every injured player- takes P.E.Ds

Forgive my intrusion, but you guys are just having to pro actively cover yourselves because something is happening behind the scenes here.

Its possible that Essendon were just too obvious about it in 2012.

A few of us are worried how monster our players are becoming in this very "intense" off season under Ex Liverpool man Burgess. Issue again related to soft tissue management.

FWIW, we've been discussing this for 6 months over at our web page ( http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...d-sport-and-pafc.972243/page-11#post-27040687 )

As in, the moral argument as to why we wouldn't

Cheers, and don't lose sleep

$220k fine and slap on wrist..AFL issue a "whew, we got that in time and clarified an ambiguity but no AFL player yada yada blah blah hey AFL season starts this Friday!!!"

WADA can go eff themselves. AFL and its businessmen on boards RUN this city

Hirdismyhero approved.

 

[b0ydman]

Yeah I doubt he would. He just seems like the kind of guy that would have absolutely nothing to do with this

Last post in your page- seek apologies in advance.

Sorry, with no reference to Jobe or any player here, but comments like "He just seems like the kind of guy that would have absolutely nothing to do with this"

Come on, are you that naive?

They aren't beating a woman here. They're just doing what every other AFL player has done for the last 25 years to get through a game, sticking somesh*t into themselves and being team players

 

[liam_13]

jesus we are screwed aren't we and when 2013 was looking so promising!

Don't be so quick to write yourselves off. Fishardanianan or whatever his name is, who was pretty much bang on in October regarding this scandal, has updated with the word from his source being that the Bombers are not overly worried.

From sounds of it might have to take some heat, do some serious PR, and cop the irreplaceable reputation loss but nothing major.

 

[liam_13]

Last post in your page- seek apologies in advance.

Sorry, with no reference to Jobe or any player here, but comments like "He just seems like the kind of guy that would have absolutely nothing to do with this"

Come on, are you that naive?

They aren't beating a woman here. They're just doing what every other AFL player has done for the last 25 years to get through a game, sticking somesh*t into themselves and being team players

While I'm not inclined to be just as cynical as you, you have to wonder regarding professional sport..

In the Olympics, there's been East Germany and Chinese regimes. There's been track&field athletes confess to doping who didn't even test positive. In other sports, there's been massive drug problems in cycling, and the biggest sportstar on the planet who orchestrated one of the biggest doping programs ever never tested positive (may have only tested positive once and covered it up anyway).
Widespread rumors regarding tennis stars. Widespread rumors regarding one of the most current successful sporting countries on the planet (Spain - cycling, tennis, soccer is swamped with the Spanish).
And don't get me started on what would be happening in American sports, the amount of money being thrown around there is basically asking for trouble.

The AFL - a sport where endurance, strength and speed are all key - why would it be clean? Why would Essendon be the only club out of 18 to be suspicious at the very least? Probably 4 or 5 other clubs with resources equal to or greater than Essendons...fishardianian (sorry again) certainly had interesting comments on a certain former AFL coach, I wonder what he brought to the table..

Essendon fans, I say this with still the presumption of innocence, but you may just be the tip of the iceberg. Depends (well, depends if it is AFL-wide but let's assume worse case) whether or not the men in charge at AFL headquarters are prepared to risk everything for the sake of a clean sport. I have a hope they do, you obviously see past it (with regards to b0ydman)

edit: I see my other post got deleted. Didn't mean anything trolling/inciteful with it, was just posting an update from a poster with a decent record because who wants to trawl through all those posts.
edit 2: no it didn't, it's still there. sorry

 

[Keystone agony]

Kyle Reimers permanent ban for bringing game into disrepute