Essendon have just set an new AFL era record

[Sonny Hayes]

I hope Essendon extend this record for a few more years and then Hawthorn take it off them a few thousand days later.

Keep hoping mate

 

[Gordon Farkas]

Here’s another interesting stat:

As of today (30 August 2020) the number of days since an Essendon team not coached by Kevin Sheedy won a final is:

18,971

The last non-Sheedy finals win was the 1968 Preliminary Final.
Ess 11.25.91 def Geel 9.13.67

 

[BF Tiger]

Keep hoping mate

You've made a good start.

 

[Pablito]

Denial about what?
We are a rabble no doubt about it but winning a final in that period wouldn’t change that. When you sneak into 7th or 8th like we have (with a garbage percentage usually) we are clearly making up the numbers and weren’t a serious threat.
I can honestly say that leading in to those finals losses that I never thought we were favourites or a chance to win any of them.
Im more concerned that we haven’t assembled a list anywhere near being competitive than I am over losing a few finals.

Was at this game, never in doubt. I will always cherish the memory of Brett Thorton towelling your mob up.

 

[HBF]

Disagree.

Everyone gets pumped up at finals time, and there is nothing like going along, the anthem, the intensity and then having a win.

When the demons finally made the eight and beat the cats in the elimination final in 2018 - I was there and the dees fans were going apeshit. No, they weren't likely to win the flag (indeed they got rodgered by West Coast in the prelim), but it was a great night for the dees.

When the bombers win their next final it will be huge for their fans. And rightly so.

Very much like being a Carlton supporter. Winning an EF in 2011 and 2013 was amazing. Just the pure joy of winning a final and being there for both of them was just sensational. Carlton had been so bad for so long that any finals win is worth savouring. Nothing meaningless about any finals win.

 

[HBF]

Because that's entirely what we're talking about. It's not like Carlton didn't have a scandal during that time either, but that's besides the point.

Let me simplify it for you. They have a worse win-loss record, average finishing position, less finals played and four more wooden spoons during that time. It's not even a debate.

And we agree that Carlton have been worse.
But that's not what this thread is about.

 

[kickazz]

Very much like being a Carlton supporter. Winning an EF in 2011 and 2013 was amazing. Just the pure joy of winning a final and being there for both of them was just sensational. Carlton had been so bad for so long that any finals win is worth savouring. Nothing meaningless about any finals win.

Yeah, you've still gotta live in the moment a bit, don't you?

For those who are more 'premiership focused' then I guess I look at it like this: If after a dry period my team scrapes into the 8, I don't realistically think they can win the flag. But surely I'd think they are a chance in coming years, and to have a finals win of any sort under the belt would be such a great psychological / developmental step forward towards that. It would give the players that little bit more belief in themselves.

Whilst it was not a win in the end, I look back to the 2004 Prelim that Geelong lost to the three-peat Brisbane Lions (which we made after starting Essendon's finals losing streak, btw) by only nine points. We were an ordinary side for a few years there, and the boys played out of their skins and almost did the impossible that night. It must have given them great self belief. The rest, as they say, is history.

 

[JayJ20]

And we agree that Carlton have been worse.
But that's not what this thread is about.

It's relevant because I'm highlighting why that stat is meaningless because it hasn't done much for Carlton's premiership hopes.

The fact that we haven't made a grand final or even a prelim since 2001 is more important to me. That's very poor.

 

[HBF]

It's relevant because I'm highlighting why that stat is meaningless because it hasn't done much for Carlton's premiership hopes.

The fact that we haven't made a grand final or even a prelim since 2001 is more important to me. That's very poor.

But you have to win a final to make it to a Prelim or a GF.
The fact remains that a very big club in the AFL hasn't given their supporters really anything to celebrate this century.
Whilst the same can be said about Carlton, at least we have the memories of beating two of our biggest rivals in big final at the MCG.

 

[HBF]

Yeah, you've still gotta live in the moment a bit, don't you?

For those who are more 'premiership focused' then I guess I look at it like this: If after a dry period my team scrapes into the 8, I don't realistically think they can win the flag. But surely I'd think they are a chance in coming years, and to have a finals win of any sort under the belt would be such a great psychological / developmental step forward towards that. It would give the players that little bit more belief in themselves.

Whilst it was not a win in the end, I look back to the 2004 Prelim that Geelong lost to the three-peat Brisbane Lions (which we made after starting Essendon's finals losing streak, btw) by only nine points. We were an ordinary side for a few years there, and the boys played out of their skins and almost did the impossible that night. It must have given them great self belief. The rest, as they say, is history.

Well said.
Even take this year as an example, I would love to see Carlton sneak into the 8 even knowing we are no chance of winning the flag this year.

 

[kickazz]

Sorry to bang on about it, but here goes.....

2007. Geelong had won and lost finals in previous years. We were dominating and hot faves for the flag - the whole while there was the 'keep a lid on it' phrase.

Nothing short of a premiership would do that year, at least that was my genuine expectation.

Then we played North in the QF on a sunny September Sunday afternoon. Despite everything else, I was still nervous.

In the end we smashed them, as we probably should have. So how was I supposed to feel about that?

All I'll say is the beers at the London Tavern tasted bloody good that sunny evening.

 

[JayJ20]

But you have to win a final to make it to a Prelim or a GF.
The fact remains that a very big club in the AFL hasn't given their supporters really anything to celebrate this century.
Whilst the same can be said about Carlton, at least we have the memories of beating two of our biggest rivals in big final at the MCG.

Yeah of course we do, but an EF win isn't going to guarantee you a prelim or GF. Based on our list, we'd have been thrashed in a semi final if we managed to scrape an EF win anyway.
My point is, we need to finish in the top 4 to make a grand final and challenge for the premiership. We haven't even come close to finishing top 4, which is the real issue.

For me, the most important stat is that we haven't made a grand final since 2001. That's 19 years of mediocrity and that's what truly makes us pathetic.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

"AFL era" is the clue it's not a record.

 

[roacheee]

I don’t think they’ve ever looked as bad as Richmond 2001-17..at the same time never looked like winning a final maybe aside from capitulating against us in 2014. Played some exciting footy in patches throughout this 16 year patch, where as Richmond were just plain frustrating. Either way far too long for such a big club.

Geez pythagoras....in 2017 we looked worse than essendon do now....but we won a premiership.....work that one out

 

[roacheee]

Timely reminder that cheats never prosper

Except geelong

 

[BF Tiger]

"AFL era" is the clue it's not a record.

Yeah it is. It's a qualified record. Otherwise Dick Reynolds and Bill Hutchison with 7 B&Fs each is not a shared record at Essendon because Bob Skilton has 9 at South Melbourne and Kevin Murray the same at Fitzroy.

 

[mightymouse75]

That is karma .. all hail James turd

 

[PrinceCharles]

Hmm. It's a damming stat, but one worth acknowledging I think, at least from a statistical point of view.

Is there a way to acknowledge a statistic from a non statistical point of view?

 

[Bleeeeeeeeep]

Bog average team that get overhyped every preseason from the media and never delivers.

 

[Roddy]

exactly


as much as people who don't read posts then quote them.

I read the post, you spent at least two sentences stating how you and the club don't and shouldn't care. Not overly difficult.

 

[citizen-erased]

Here’s another interesting stat:

As of today (30 August 2020) the number of days since an Essendon team not coached by Kevin Sheedy won a final is:

18,971

The last non-Sheedy finals win was the 1968 Preliminary Final.
Ess 11.25.91 def Geel 9.13.67

Thats an odd stat to spend time coming up with
Sheeds was at the club for nearly 3 decades.

 

[citizen-erased]

Very much like being a Carlton supporter. Winning an EF in 2011 and 2013 was amazing. Just the pure joy of winning a final and being there for both of them was just sensational. Carlton had been so bad for so long that any finals win is worth savouring. Nothing meaningless about any finals win.

Ill give you prelims. Maybe a good semi win.
Elim final wins mean little if you cant back it up and beat one of the top 4 the following week.
And even then. North made 2 prelims in a row and look at them now. Never close to a flag but topped up believing they were

Ive seen us top up to sustain a flag once.
Cole, zantuck, michael, murphy.
Id rather avoid false dawns.

 

[roacheee]

A few meaningless Elimination final wins would mean nothing, anything other than a flag is a failure and we have been an abject failure now for two decades. Despite that we still have a more recent Premiership than many clubs which says more about them than us

The real question is.....who is closer to a flag.....bombres or blooze?

 

[Juddernaut08]

Was at this game, never in doubt. I will always cherish the memory of Brett Thorton towelling your mob up.

so good! pumping the drug cheats almost as much as they pumped themselves up (by injecting PEDs)

 

[Shane Heard]

haha ..you pack of pathetic hyenas once again trying to find a sliver of negativity in the resurgence of the mighty juggernaut that is the EFC.

It annoys the haters we have bounced back strong from the dark abyss of the supplement mix up.

It peeves you no end that we got those draft picks and survived the player suspension that was completely unfair.

It grinds your gears that we built an amazing new home base and signed up some A grade sponsors who see the value in connecting their brand with a powerhouse top 4 club.

Good luck with it all the attempts to rattle us supporters.

Water off a pigeon’s back.