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They just signed Perez to an extension. He's not going anywhere.
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Normally I'd agree 100%, but this is Red Bull and they've shown themselves to be more brutal than most. From what I gather Checo's contract is for next year with an option for a following year. You'd have the guess the option lies with Red Bull dependant on results
I think this latest noise is designed to be a kick up the arse, but there would have to be a grain of truth behind it - if he maintains this form through the end of the year they might not feel they have much of a choice.
If you look at his recent form..
Monaco - The Red Bull just didn't work at this circuit, and even Max couldn't crack the top-5. Even so, 16th was a diabolical qualifying result, which he turned into a DNF.
Canada - His performance here was diabolical, and he can't blame the car (given that Max won the race). He failed to make it out of Q1, and failed to finish the race.
Spain - Finished 8th, which is where he's at now that McLaren/Ferrari/Mercedes have achieved car parity.
Austria - Finished 7th, again, this is his level
If Red Bull want him to finish better than 7th/8th, then they need to give him a car which is superior to the rest of the pack. Given his talent deficit, 7th/8th is the best they can hope for while the car only has parity - the other teams all have 2x drivers who are better than him.
Monaco - The Red Bull just didn't work at this circuit, and even Max couldn't crack the top-5. Even so, 16th was a diabolical qualifying result, which he turned into a DNF.
Canada - His performance here was diabolical, and he can't blame the car (given that Max won the race). He failed to make it out of Q1, and failed to finish the race.
Spain - Finished 8th, which is where he's at now that McLaren/Ferrari/Mercedes have achieved car parity.
Austria - Finished 7th, again, this is his level
If Red Bull want him to finish better than 7th/8th, then they need to give him a car which is superior to the rest of the pack. Given his talent deficit, 7th/8th is the best they can hope for while the car only has parity - the other teams all have 2x drivers who are better than him.
This report on foxsports says that Ricciardo & Perez have a seat-swap clause in their contracts. But how would this work - they still have 5 drivers and 4 seats to fill?
Tsunoda isn't going anywhere, because he's tied to Honda. They still want Lawson in the VCARB in 2025, and he has a get-out clause if they don't give him an F1 seat in 2025. Perez is contracted for 2025, but there's no seat for him at VCARB in 2025.
How does this work?
Tsunoda isn't going anywhere, because he's tied to Honda. They still want Lawson in the VCARB in 2025, and he has a get-out clause if they don't give him an F1 seat in 2025. Perez is contracted for 2025, but there's no seat for him at VCARB in 2025.
How does this work?
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If Ricciardo and Perez’s respective forms do indeed trigger a mid-season seat switch, clauses in Perez’s contract would likely then make him a free agent on the driver market for F1 2025
Sensational Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull return mooted as Sergio Perez struggles
The door for a sensational mid-season Red Bull return for Daniel Ricciardo hasn't been completely shut, despite the renewal of Sergio Perez.www.planetf1.com
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Karun would explode if that swap happened.
Luv to see it for all these reasons.
Luv to see it for all these reasons.
When you say a "free agent", he's effectively without a drive.
It's baffling the amount of rumour that goes on regarding 20 driving seats..
Last week DR was on the chop and gone
This week he's either going to Williams
OR.. still possibly going to replace Perez!
Roller coaster much?
Last week DR was on the chop and gone
This week he's either going to Williams
OR.. still possibly going to replace Perez!
Roller coaster much?
I think a lot of movements will be confirmed during the mid-season break, after Spa.
It's not all 20 seats which are the subject of speculation - it's really only 5, with 1 seat available at each of Alpine, Audi, Williams, Haas, VCARB. Mercedes also have a seat spare, but Antonelli is really the only driver who has been linked to it. I guess you could add Red Bull to that list, though they have 2x drivers contracted for 2025, so it would be remarkable for that lineup to change (then again, we are talking about Red Bull).
But yes... right now, it's a big rollercoaster.
McLaren still can't let it go even though Norris clearly has 
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McLaren confirms talks with FIA over potential Verstappen guidelines breach
The ball is now in the court of the FIA and whether it feels it needs to act further.
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Don't think Ricciardo deserves to replace Perez. Tsunuda has kicked his ass most of the season.
If Red Bull were smart, they should give the opportunity to Liam Lawson to be number 2 to Max.
Lawson beat Tsunuda last season in 4 out of 5 races. I'm confident that had Lawson been racing this season, he woud of already proven to be the 2nd best driver in the combined RBR/RB team. Just do a straight swap with Perez.
If Red Bull were smart, they should give the opportunity to Liam Lawson to be number 2 to Max.
Lawson beat Tsunuda last season in 4 out of 5 races. I'm confident that had Lawson been racing this season, he woud of already proven to be the 2nd best driver in the combined RBR/RB team. Just do a straight swap with Perez.
Yep looks like it’s a done deal
Exclusive: Ocon signs F1 contract for 2025
Esteban Ocon will leave Alpine at the end of the current F1 season, however, it now appears he has secured a new home in the paddock.
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Seems like people are happyYep looks like it’s a done deal
Exclusive: Ocon signs F1 contract for 2025
Esteban Ocon will leave Alpine at the end of the current F1 season, however, it now appears he has secured a new home in the paddock.
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Yep looks like it’s a done deal
Exclusive: Ocon signs F1 contract for 2025
Esteban Ocon will leave Alpine at the end of the current F1 season, however, it now appears he has secured a new home in the paddock.
Yep, that's a poor move from Haas. Ricciardo or Bottas would have been the ideal drivers to pair with Bearman. Instead, Ollie is pretty much in a team of his own as Ocon will be out for himself.Seems like people are happy
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Tsunoda hasn't kicked Ricciardo's arse most of the season. Tsunoda has been consistently better but the margin has been very close most weekends.
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Kicked his ass? They’re separated on the Drivers Standings by 8 points.
Also, Red Bull are still smarting from promoting De Vries based on one good drive. While Lawson has shown he’s consistent in a small block of races it wouldn’t shock me if they’re going conservative with promoting him.
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From from I've seen of Bearman in F2 I'd say they'll be taking each other out on a regular basis. I know he's young, but not the most patient.
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So with Ocon going to Haas I assume its:
Williams - Sainz, back up Ricciardo
Audi - Sainz back up Bottas
Alpine - Sainz back up Doohan
Mercedes - Antonelli, back up Sainz if he doesnt show enough.
RB - Lawson (maybe even mid season if danny ric gets announced to williams they might dump sargeant now and shuffle) - Hold on perez falling off a cliff
Williams - Sainz, back up Ricciardo
Audi - Sainz back up Bottas
Alpine - Sainz back up Doohan
Mercedes - Antonelli, back up Sainz if he doesnt show enough.
RB - Lawson (maybe even mid season if danny ric gets announced to williams they might dump sargeant now and shuffle) - Hold on perez falling off a cliff
I read that sainz has agreed to join alpine. But am waiting for the announcement
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Yeah I've seen him do some dangerous things in f2 should be interesting
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He really doesn't like Australian's, does he?
Williams might be the ones that kick off the mid season driver musical chairs
www.formula1.com
Vowles hints at mid-season Williams driver change
James Vowles has admitted the time is approaching for Williams to make a decision over their future driver line-up, hinting that there could even be a change during the 2024 season.
So apparently Perez’s contract has a performance clause where he has to be within 100 points of Max by Monza (currently 119 points behind him) so has 3 races to out score Max…. The other apparent clause is that he cannot be more than five places behind Max in the drivers standings….. I think Perez’s time at RBR is over if true
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'Perez no longer secured of Red Bull seat despite contract extension'
Sergio Perez recently signed a new contract at Red Bull Racing, but that does not mean the Mexican will automatically stay in 2025, with the fight for the Constructors' championship looking tight after recent poor performances.
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