Fan threatened with eviction from MCG for barracking too loud

[Ron The Bear]

Looks like a man under a lot of pressure. Almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

 

[blackcat]

"makesure that fans can go express themselves, the right way"

direct quote.... I mean thats it, in a nutshell. Has the worst f***ing poker face and couldn't lie to a child.

evo intersectional ethics enters the mainstream
Opposite of small l liberalism. Not opposite of liberty, on a different axis to liberty/...'nism
atomise population into individual units and having set defined status? hey, that's what me and my/grammarracist friends like to do, determine everyone according to their skin for $h!ts and giggles
<gotta find a felicitous emoji, think i used two apt ones for Evo line... > S I L E N C E D by Ron The Bear 's thought control and language secret police messengers of state.

 

[Turnover]

Sticking to the "safety" line. Gil you are lying again.

Drop the corporate facade and speak to your patrons.

Nothing he says will please you. Your feet are stuck in the mud.

 

[ArNcHiSe]

As an ex security guard, I may be a little biased but I will say this, Jeff Kennett is a moron and anyone who agrees with him or says similar comments are morons.

 

[romeohwho]

He said perfectly reasonable things- he just should have been on the front foot about it all weeks ago.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Nothing he says will please you. Your feet are stuck in the mud.

I was looking for a backdown of some sort and he had no intention of it. What is there to be pleased about?

 

[zyzzbruh]

It's not an unfortunate mistake, it's a lack of training and accountability on behalf of the company paid to provide security at the ground and the stadium management.

So how's the the AFL or Gills fault. The only thing they can do is respond and talk to the venues regarding it.

 

[Aramis]

"Half the attendees being women is the cornerstone of our game"

Thats a quote. oh deary, deary me.

 

[Kappa]

Jeez some of these journos are flogs

 

[Lolbert]

"Half the attendees being women is the cornerstone of our game"

Thats a quote. oh deary, deary me.

Wow, what's the context of that? They need sheltering from the boorishness of man?

 

[Aramis]

Jeez some of these journos are flogs

As opposed to the guy they were asking questions of? he was a paragon of virtue I take it?

 

[Milanista28]

Looked like a man who didn't want to be there or own up to errors, I didn't believe him.

 

[Aramis]

Wow, what's the context of that? They need sheltering from the boorishness of man?

He was just randomly listing off things that were the "cornerstone" of our game to distract from the question that was asked, that was 3rd on the list. Embarrassing.

 

[zyzzbruh]

Actually you are wrong IMO, in that a standard security guard there to make coin instead of performing a duty is arguably a form of fraud. Its doing work for pay without doing the work effectively when they should have been trained to perform certain duties to a standard.

Also facing a spilt decision to break up a scuffle is simply not good enough and would have gone against any training he had.

What you are basically saying is the officer and company could be liable for failure to provide an adequate service.

The culture is totally relevant. The fact he only saw too players as a scuffle, as you suggest, rather than a scenario outside his jurisdiction is part of why he culturally out of sync with what he was required to do especially regarding what is acceptable in the outer in terms of relevant issues in the outer he or she would need to address as appropriate.

Do you think the security company honoured the contract and do you not see a breach of contract??? Are you saying those that framed the contract did not know what they were doing????

If he or she had any training they would no they have no powers of arrest and can only perform a citizens arrest if warranted like any other citizen and likewise citizens would have the same power as written in a booklet they probably were carrying around at the time if trained appropriately.

I would be stunned if the state regulator did not call into question the training provided to the officer apart from the behaviour of the security company in terms of labels as well as the officers behaviour if they knew what they were doing!!

The fact that a security company may have provided ill-equipped officers to provide a service does not abstain themselves from their responsibility to provide a level of service regardless of their chosen business model!!

I'm not denying the security guard did the wrong thing. Lack of knowledge doesn't make someone out of touch culturally, how you can string those two together is ridiculous. Anyone including Aussies who don't have an interest in the AFL could have a lack of.knowledge regarding the game. Doesn't make them.out of touch with Aussie culture. Nor footy culture. Can't tell me security guards need to read the AFL rule book now.

He clearly showed a lack of knowledge and made a mistake with his reaction, no one's denying that. I'm sure he'll be pulled up and the security company will have to pull it's socks up. It's a mistake that needs addressing between the venue and security company. It has nothing to do with the AFL or general public.

 

[Aramis]

Looked like a man who didn't want to be there or own up to errors, I didn't believe him.

Nothing we didn't know, the man is incredibly conceited and a condescending self-assured prick. He is a terribly poor leader and clearly has no ability to understand what the f*** is going on at ground zero.

 

[zyzzbruh]

Its all the venues fault guys, nothing to see here.

We're all muppets and clearly theres been no increase in policing.

We're all wrong guys.

Are you actually dumb or what? Gill didn't deny increased policing. He's saying it wasn't enforced by him or the AFL. Muppet.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Jeez some of these journos are flogs

How many journos sit in the outer these days? Most never do, so they have zero frame of reference or understanding (one way or another) on this issue.

 

[Turnover]

I was looking for a backdown of some sort and he had no intention of it. What is there to be pleased about?

Backdown of some sort???

 

[zyzzbruh]

Nothing we didn't know, the man is incredibly conceited and a condescending self-assured prick. He is a terribly poor leader and clearly has no ability to understand what the f*** is going on at ground zero.

You clearly must've been kicked out of the footy sometime recently. Your ground zero seems completely invaded by the looks of it. If you have not been approached by security staff and questioned recently then shame on you for spreading utter rubbish.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Backdown of some sort???

"The public are clearly not ready for our ideological offensive and security will be wound back to previous levels" would've been appropriate. In corporate-speak, of course.

A 'sorry' would've helped, too.

 

[The Gong]

Nothing we didn't know, the man is incredibly conceited and a condescending self-assured prick. He is a terribly poor leader and clearly has no ability to understand what the f*** is going on at ground zero.

What did you want him to say?

"Yes, the AFL begun a clandestine conspiracy to undermine the very fabric of our society by stopping people from calling umps "bald-headed flogs" but you caught us. I will resign immediately and leave the country, never to return."

You might not like the guy but in all reality the crackdown on crowd behaviour was not an AFL directive and it was indeed the local security going over the top. If there's a smoking gun memo somewhere that says otherwise then let's see it.

 

[zyzzbruh]

"The public are clearly not ready for our ideological offensive and security will be wound back to previous levels" would've been appropriate. In corporate-speak, of course.

A 'sorry' would've helped, too.

So that would please you. However what will he then say to the other side of the fence?

 

[The Gong]

"The public are clearly not ready for our ideological offensive and security will be wound back to previous levels" would've been appropriate. In corporate-speak, of course.

A 'sorry' would've helped, too.

Was there an official AFL offensive? There's a bit of jump in logic there. I guess ultimately the AFL run the show so they need to be held responsible but in the mix are the ground management and the security contractors. There's lot of moving parts there. Gil might not have moved on it fast enough but that doesn't mean there's some conscious and proactive crackdown going on at the AFL management level.

 

[zyzzbruh]

"Jeff Kennett regrets his words"

Next minute...

"I can't speak for Jeff"

Fckn dumb people again. He's allowed to say what was quoted to him because that is direct from the sources mouth. He can't come out and say that Jeff will retract his words, cause what if he doesn't come out and say it publicly. Just because he said it to him personally doesn't mean he will say it publicly. Speaking for him and speaking what was said are two total different things that absolute peanuts like yourself won't be able to comprehend.

 

[Ducky Tie]

The questioning from the journos in that presser served no purpose other than to be the one to catch Gil out. Our sporting media values got ya journalism far more than discussing the actual issue and working out how to fix it.