Final Against Carlton!

[Optimax]

i have thought that it could be a geelong carlton gf.. i guess you have to look it from all sides but the thought of not making the gf destroys me...

Makes perfect sense we have been horribly out of form this season

 

[10571z]

Getting tickets will be a nightmare...

Whats the deal with MCC during finals can u take guests. My good friend is a carlton supporter and mcc member.

 

[Thrawn]

Why would anyone be worried about a team we've wiped the floor with on the last 4 occasions?

Because H&A results amount to nothing when it comes to finals. Essendon beat us twice in '99 yet we knocked them over. That's why I'm worried when people say that we'd account for Geelong in the finals... despite matching up on them well, they're still only H&A games and finals are a different matter entirely.

But a Carl/Coll final would be awesome! And I'd be extremely nervous/excited as hell.

 

[Scodog10]

Because H&A results amount to nothing when it comes to finals. Essendon beat us twice in '99 yet we knocked them over. That's why I'm worried when people say that we'd account for Geelong in the finals... despite matching up on them well, they're still only H&A games and finals are a different matter entirely.

But a Carl/Coll final would be awesome! And I'd be extremely nervous/excited as hell.

Naw really a decade without a finals victory is enough evidence to suggest that when September comes around Carlton struggle!

 

[Zahki]

Because H&A results amount to nothing when it comes to finals.

What a cop out. Is that your way of keeping some hope alive that you can match us when it counts? Finals are played by the same rules as H&A games, they're higher intensity and there's more on the line thats about it for the differences. H&A games are a fine indicator of the difference between teams. Carlton might make up the gap between us later in the year but I doubt it, looking at the way they're playing it's going to be Essendon Mk.2 where they run out of steam in about Round 16.

Better hope you meet Geelong in the first week and not us.

 

[Optimax]

Because H&A results amount to nothing when it comes to finals. Essendon beat us twice in '99 yet we knocked them over. That's why I'm worried when people say that we'd account for Geelong in the finals... despite matching up on them well, they're still only H&A games and finals are a different matter entirely.

But a Carl/Coll final would be awesome! And I'd be extremely nervous/excited as hell.

You do realise we have the home and away and finals form over carlton currently yeah?

You know being reigning premiers and all

 

[Thrawn]

What a cop out.

It is no cop out. They don't. It is a fresh, clean slate - sudden elimination for 4 teams, a 2nd chance for another 4. It's not going to matter how good we were during the H&A if either team is going to perform badly. Port in 01 - 03 is a great example of that.

All I'm saying is finals can throw surprises, and that H&A wins against a certain team doesn't guarantee anything. They certainly didn't help Port Adelaide. Or Essendon in '99. Please show me where I'm wrong on that.

a decade without a finals victory is enough evidence to suggest that when September comes around Carlton struggle!

Yet in 2002 you almost snatched a premiership from the greatest side in the modern area, where your last final win was 12 years ago. Games experience > finals experience.

 

[PieBeast]

I'm quite comfortable in knowledge we've comprehensively beaten you on the last 4 occasions and are coming off a fairly impressive season that culminated in Premiership. While you're clinging to something that happened 20 years ago and relying on upset to occur without winning a single finals game for 9 years, I know in which shoes most people would rather be.

 

[Thrawn]

I'm quite comfortable in knowledge we've comprehensively beaten you on the last 4 occasions and are coming off a fairly impressive season that culminated in Premiership. While you're clinging to something that happened 20 years ago and relying on upset to occur without winning a single finals game for 9 years, I know in which shoes most people would rather be.

As I said, winning vs us in the H&A doesn't 100% guarantee a finals win. Many, many examples of this happening but I guess you want to ignore that, that's fine.

See you guys in the finals.

 

[PieBeast]

As I said, winning vs us in the H&A doesn't 100% guarantee a finals win. Many, many examples of this happening but I guess you want to ignore that, that's fine.

Didn't say it guaranteed us a win, just pointed out the reasons for our confidence but I guess you want to ignore that, that's fine too.

See you guys in the finals.

This might not happen but if it does I'll be all for it

 

[Jesus Baulks]

Whats the deal with MCC during finals can u take guests. My good friend is a carlton supporter and mcc member.

Yep, but they are limited and you need to get in early. No guests for the GF obviously...

 

[Scodog10]

Yet in 2002 you almost snatched a premiership from the greatest side in the modern area, where your last final win was 12 years ago. Games experience > finals experience.

Uhuh but fortunately in 2002 we hadn't lost cutthroat finals from imminently winnable positions in both years prior, the 5 goal last quarter comeback by Brisbane was a joy to watch though

Like I said earlier guys like Walker, Betts, Garlett and Simpson play well during the regular season but their records against both Collingwood and in finals is substandard.

Finals and GF experience plays a massive part in a teams success and a team that comes from nowhere, in terms of finals experience, to make a GF or win one is the exception rather than the norm.

 

[Optimax]

It is no cop out. They don't. It is a fresh, clean slate - sudden elimination for 4 teams, a 2nd chance for another 4. It's not going to matter how good we were during the H&A if either team is going to perform badly. Port in 01 - 03 is a great example of that.

All I'm saying is finals can throw surprises, and that H&A wins against a certain team doesn't guarantee anything. They certainly didn't help Port Adelaide. Or Essendon in '99. Please show me where I'm wrong on that.



Yet in 2002 you almost snatched a premiership from the greatest side in the modern area, where your last final win was 12 years ago. Games experience > finals experience.

We had beat them last start in home and away, like we had Adelaide and we ran port as close as anyone else had in 02

Basically you screwed your point over, yes home and away results do matter without the knowledge of our prior Brisbane match we may not have had the confidence.

Also our last final win prior to the Gf in 02 was exactly 7 days earlier on the same ground against Adelaide

 

[Swooop]

It'd be bloody fantastic if it happened, the atmosphere would be amazing.

Yes Sin, it would be a huge occasion for sure.

We owe your boys one or two

 

[10571z]

Yep, but they are limited and you need to get in early. No guests for the GF obviously...

Thanks mate. I need to get a gameplan for getting grand final tickets if we make it. id be prepared to spend $700 i think. But if its against hawks cats or blues i dont even think that would cut it

 

[Nebula1971]

I have no fear of Carlton this year. If we met them in a GF, we would beat them comprehensively. In fact, I reckon it will be a GF between these 2 clubs and what a mouth watering proposition this would be.

In 2012 however, I believe these 2 clubs could meet again and this time the fairytale could be Carlton's as they become the first team to reach 17 GF's. I am sure I couldn't be more wrong about this, but just get a feeling we will both be there abouts again next year.

The rivalry between us and them will be huge over the next 4 years ... that is for certain.

 

[shawthing09]

I have said it before and people generally don't like to hear it but I think the 'hatred' thing is a waste of time. I enjoy the banter simply because it's the thing to do as a bit of fun but that's as far as it goes.

I think given the lopsided nature of the comp this year and the fact it maybe that way for another couple years due to the expansion I would love nothing more then the spectacle of a Pies V Blues GF.

I can say that confident that we are probably 5 goals the better side. With that said football is a funny thing and you never know what will happen on the day but the same can be said of any team.

 

[THATSGOLD]

Makes perfect sense we have been horribly out of form this season

did i say we were out of form? I said that Carlton are defintely a legitimate chance of making a gf this year and its a three way race to the flag at the moment.. and half way into the marathon.