Frawley vs. Pears

[whelan=legend]

I lol'ed You can't have Frawley on his own, Pears is slighty ahead of him IMO.
Also Pears 191cm 94kg >>Stronger>> Frawley 193cm 91kg

Pears isn't stronger than Frawley, that's for sure. To see this you just have to watch a match, rather than looking at MFC website stats (which are around 2/3 years old).

 

[bomberstomake8]

Frawley is on his own as the best young key back in the game.

Theres nobody to compare him to, he is way too dominant and is already one of the strongest players in the league.

Will be All Australian full back for the next decade.


Pears looks like a decent prospect though.

can i ask a question with all these champion footballers melbourne boast how is it you guys struggle to win matches and have been down for so long?
I mean frawley = " there is noone to compare him to, he is way too dominant"
i have heard jurrah "the most exciting talent to ever walk onto a football field"
aaron davey " the best kick in the afl"
colin sylvia - "elite"

i just dont understand how a team can have so many superstars yet place last

 

[smashh]

Pears easy.
with time Garland will be better than Frawley anyway

 

[whelan=legend]

i just dont understand how a team can have so many superstars yet place last

But we're not last?

 

[raskolnikov]

Frawley is a gun but I wouldn't trade Pears for him. Pears is easily the best young defender in the league.

 

[}>-DEMON-<{]

i just dont understand how a team can have so many superstars yet place last

is that a serious question?

should we be in the top 4 on the strength of a bunch of 18-21 year olds? It's all about how good your 24-28 year olds are, ours are rubbish with a few notable exceptions. That's why we are getting done, because we just retired the core of our last era of players and have under-10-gamers out there

if you are playing sides that have an average of 60 games each on you of course you are going to lose

the point is our 18-21 group is so far ahead of anyone else it's not funny

This is seriously something you would have to explain to a 6 year old, what the hell is wrong with you?

The question here is: how good does James Frawley look like becoming? If you have seen him in action you will say 'pretty damn good' and that's why this poll exists as he and Pears are clearly the best 2

You're on the same amount of wins as us remember, plus we got robbed a win

 

[cannons]

Some of the idiocy here astounds me.

To say one of them is 'easily' better than the other is fantasy. They are both very good young defenders and there isn't much between them. As a Melbourne fan, of course I'd take Frawley, just as Essendon fans would be likely to vote for Pears.

Further, to bring up Melbourne's poor performances over the last couple of years and then try and blame our youth for those efforts is absolutely pathetic.

Some of you morons need to get a sense of reality.

 

[Brent Prismall#9]

Frawley is on his own as the best young key back in the game.

Theres nobody to compare him to, he is way too dominant and is already one of the strongest players in the league.

Will be All Australian full back for the next decade.


Pears looks like a decent prospect though.

Pears looks like a DECENT prospect!! Your bias is so strong it's not even funny

 

[bomberstomake8]

is that a serious question?

should we be in the top 4 on the strength of a bunch of 18-21 year olds? It's all about how good your 24-28 year olds are, ours are rubbish with a few notable exceptions. That's why we are getting done, because we just retired the core of our last era of players and have under-10-gamers out there

if you are playing sides that have an average of 60 games each on you of course you are going to lose

the point is our 18-21 group is so far ahead of anyone else it's not funny

This is seriously something you would have to explain to a 6 year old, what the hell is wrong with you?

The question here is: how good does James Frawley look like becoming? If you have seen him in action you will say 'pretty damn good' and that's why this poll exists as he and Pears are clearly the best 2

You're on the same amount of wins as us remember, plus we got robbed a win

yes it is, its all well and good to say someone has potential. Using the examples i stated earlier do you not think they are way over the top. to say frawley is too dominant for any other player in the competition. Do you think thats not OTT? it seems insane just after the guy has a couple of good matches.

I have no issues with supporters sayin that there 18-21 year olds have talent and a lot of potential. I would agree with that as many of the demons players do have a lot of potential. However some of these posts by melbourne supporters are insane. Probably the worst bunch of supporters in the league for it.

Im behaving like a 6 year old?
so do you actually beleive that liam jurrah is the most exciting talent EVER to work onto a football field?
or do you beleive that aaron davey is the best rebounding defender in the competition?
or that colin sylvia is an elite afl player?
or that frawley is too dominant for any other player in the competition?

If you do then beleive all these posts from your own supporters then i do ask the question about why you have been down for so long.

 

[bomberstomake8]

Some of the idiocy here astounds me.

To say one of them is 'easily' better than the other is fantasy. They are both very good young defenders and there isn't much between them. As a Melbourne fan, of course I'd take Frawley, just as Essendon fans would be likely to vote for Pears.

Further, to bring up Melbourne's poor performances over the last couple of years and then try and blame our youth for those efforts is absolutely pathetic.

Some of you morons need to get a sense of reality.

if that is aimed at me, i never blamed youth for your poor performances. I just have an issue with how much your supporters pump up your players. Some posts I have read from melbourne supporters have been insane. Im in no way critisising your young players, i am critisising the opinions of your fellow melbourne supporters. I rate melbournes list, Just obviously not as much as melbourne supporters.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Frawley is on his own as the best young key back in the game.

Theres nobody to compare him to, he is way too dominant and is already one of the strongest players in the league.

so full of shit

I hate such obviously biased tripe outside of B13

 

[}>-DEMON-<{]

yes it is, its all well and good to say someone has potential. Using the examples i stated earlier do you not think they are way over the top. to say frawley is too dominant for any other player in the competition. Do you think thats not OTT? it seems insane just after the guy has a couple of good matches.

I have no issues with supporters sayin that there 18-21 year olds have talent and a lot of potential. I would agree with that as many of the demons players do have a lot of potential. However some of these posts by melbourne supporters are insane. Probably the worst bunch of supporters in the league for it.

Im behaving like a 6 year old?
so do you actually beleive that liam jurrah is the most exciting talent EVER to work onto a football field?
or do you beleive that aaron davey is the best rebounding defender in the competition?
or that colin sylvia is an elite afl player?
or that frawley is too dominant for any other player in the competition?

If you do then beleive all these posts from your own supporters then i do ask the question about why you have been down for so long.

what you said was how is it possible to be on the bottom of the ladder if you have so many superstars. I explained there are very few superstars in the older bracket. Most of the talent is 21 or younger and that doesn't win you games

I don't care what some other melbourne supporter said about something I responded to your statement

PS the answer to your questions is NO for all of them - but dagnabbit none of them are far off the mark and that's the truth, Ruth

 

[edstar10]

pears by a country mile, he is 2 years younger than frawley, in 2 years pears will be in the elite backman in the game and will pass frawley in a flash, pears is quicker, smarter and has better skills, one thing melbourne can be happy about is that they have the best young midfeilders in the afl and will be pushing for top 8 in the next year or two.

 

[The Mighty Boosh]

pears by a country mile, he is 2 years younger than frawley, in 2 years pears will be in the elite backman in the game and will pass frawley in a flash, pears is quicker, smarter and has better skills ....

I'll let an Essendon supporter reply to this one for me.

so full of shit

I hate such obviously biased tripe outside of B13

Both are very talented young KPD's. For anyone to say either "by a country mile" or "easily" only shows they have not watched both players enough and are bias as ****. To further indicate the Dees dismal recent record as evidence only shows you up as a moron.

Both team supporteer have been guilty so no need to get all high and mighty.

It will be great to see how this eventualtes. Frawley is 18 months older than Tayte and they were taken a year apart in drafts. His first year was disappointing but the whole team was at that stage and some Dee fans were concerned we'd made the wrong choice. He has since proved beyond a doubt he was well worth the pick and will be a fantastic defender for many years.

Frawley was VERY GOOD LAST YEAR and this was noticed by anyone who watched enough of Melbourne. His form this year is even more impressive.

Pears has been great from the get go and it'll be interesting to see how he goes this year.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Young Spud is in my dream-team, and did ok last week.

Honestly, any club in the land would bleed for either of these guys

 

[eth-dog]

Hard to split. I would take Pears purely because I've seen more of him, and know his game better. FWIW Frawley is a very good KPD from what I've seen, and I would take him in a heartbeat if he wanted to come to Essendon

 

[dave_27]

Please, how many more of these comparisons are we going to have against Pears.

Pears comfortably. Only Hooker holds a stick to Pears as far as young key defenders go.

 

[whelan=legend]

Please, how many more of these comparisons are we going to have against Pears.

Pears comfortably. Only Hooker holds a stick to Pears as far as young key defenders go.

Gotta love delusional Essendon supporters.

Meanwhile the coaches vote Frawley BOG on the weekend.

 

[Brent Prismall#9]

Pears isn't stronger than Frawley, that's for sure. To see this you just have to watch a match, rather than looking at MFC website stats (which are around 2/3 years old).

What makes you say that Pears isn't stronger than Frawley?? how many matches have you actually seen Pears play this year??

If I recall correctly Frawley played on Medhurst in round 2 and generally takes as many small to medium sizes fowards as tall fowards. Pears consistently plays on the power fowards e.g. Hawkins, Pavlich, Waite, etc. Because of this its hard to judge whos stronger unless Pears and Frawley actually play on eachother.

 

[Trengove_is_God]

LOL @ Pears leading this poll.

Bigfooty crap at its finest.

 

[Slattery_20]

LOL @ Melbourne supporters starting a zillion Bigfooty polls to talk up their team then whinging about "Bigfooty crap" when they don't get the answer they deserved.
Start a poll if you're interested in the result.

 

[The Mighty Boosh]

LOL @ Melbourne supporters starting a zillion Bigfooty polls to talk up their team then whinging about "Bigfooty crap" when they don't get the answer they deserved.
Start a poll if you're interested in the result.

Which polls?

I think you'll find other fans have started most of the recent polls about Melbourne players. They can feel the fire

 

[Slattery_20]

Which polls?

I think you'll find other fans have started most of the recent polls about Melbourne players. They can feel the fire

Have a look at the OP.

 

[bomberstomake8]

what you said was how is it possible to be on the bottom of the ladder if you have so many superstars. I explained there are very few superstars in the older bracket. Most of the talent is 21 or younger and that doesn't win you games

I don't care what some other melbourne supporter said about something I responded to your statement

PS the answer to your questions is NO for all of them - but dagnabbit none of them are far off the mark and that's the truth, Ruth

I would argue that they are still 2-3 years off the mark. Nevertheless the point of my original post was to show that potential superstars is different from current superstars. IMO Melbourne has no current superstars, davey is good and sylvia can be very good but neither i would label as superstars. You have potential superstars but your current supporters (inclduign the one i was responding to in my original post) claim they are current superstars which as you say they are not. I dont think my post is wrong at all, your getting upset when you actually agree with me

 

[saj_21]

LOL @ Melbourne supporters starting a zillion Bigfooty polls to talk up their team then whinging about "Bigfooty crap" when they don't get the answer they deserved.
Start a poll if you're interested in the result.

Dont worry about Trengove is God, he obviously is stiring up trouble. Anyone who has a level headed and un biased view would say Frawley vs. Pears is close and both a very good KPF in the scarlett mould.

I started this thread becuase these two players are very similar in all atributes of the game and was interested to know everyone else's opinion.

Pears would be in front atm, he got a lot of positive media attention last year and righly so for efforts on opposition KPF's. I loved the game he played against Carlton and ran off Fev! Frawley really emerged later in the year and was some what hindered by our tanking efforts, where after playing well on Fev or Riewoldt was tried elsewhere on the ground.

Both are young, quick, strong, win the ball, use it well and create defensive run. One thing i rate highly with Frawley is his closing speed, which is very important for a backmen. I haven't had a good chance to watch Pears closing speed (live at a game) but will look closely when Melbourne line up against Essendon.