VFL Future direction - SANFL / AFL Reserves / PBs

[Port2Power]

Yea I would watch them here in Sydney when they play in the reserves league. Would love to wear the PBs here!

 

[RossFC]

 

[Progressive Aggresion]

The more important question is... if an AFL reserves isn't in sight for the next 2 years then would we still be leaving the SANFL beforehand and simply playing as a VFL listed team until the name changes?
Or would the two need to occur simultaneously.

 

[Buget]

Given that it comes down to dollars and paying off the state leagues….

It amazes me that they can buy out Docklands, but can’t produce an even competition.

 

[Doctor Feel]

This is why we are going to the VFL. We arent prepared to wait for the AFL to sort its shit.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I initially wrote on here several times I can't see it happening until after 2027 as that's when the CBA ends and they had to work out what the new cap was for both the men and women and the AFL funds the cap increases and it took forever to sign it - August 2023 and had to back date pay increase to 1st November 2022.

Then I saw how much increase in cash from the new TV/Media deal happens in 2025 about $78m extra over 2024 my guess is $525m v $447m and that the big cap increases were in 2023 and 2024 and I thought there is enough money to start in 2025 and still have the $$$ for salary cap increases and Tassie.

But looks like the AFL has committed to too many other things in 2025, 2026 and 2027. Plus they move slow at AFL House.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

I initially I wrote on here several times I can't see it happening until after 2027 as that's when the CBA ends and they had to work out what the new cap was for both the men and women and the AFL funds the cap increases and it took forever to sign it - August 2023 and had to back date pay increase to 1st November 2022.

Then I saw how much increase in cash from the new TV/Media deal happens in 2025 about $78m extra over 2024 my guess is $525m v $447m and that the big cap increases were in 2023 and 2024 and I thought there is enough money to start in 2025 and still have the $$$ for salary cap increases and Tassie.

But looks like the AFL has committed to too many other things in 2025, 2026 and 2027. Plus they move slow at AFL House.

They move especially slow when it advantages VFL clubs, therefore is good for their bottom line, therefore is good for their bonuses.

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[GremioPower]

Why would the AFL rush for 4 clubs?

An AFL reserve league only matters for Port, WL, Freo, and WC. All others are already in it…

 

[Duckimus Prime]

And a reserve league actually makes the travel problem even worse for West Coast and Freo.

 

[bringbackbucky]

This weeks Power game clashes directly with the Magpies game. Just another reason that we need out of this set up...

 

[RossFC]

This weeks Power game clashes directly with the Magpies game. Just another reason that we need out of this set up...

No idea why they couldn't move that SANFL game to Sunday.

Visentini, Anasta and whoever the sub is could have all played vs South.

 

[Buget]

And a reserve league actually makes the travel problem even worse for West Coast and Freo.

I don’t necessarily agree with that. The travel will likely be the same, just more people doing it, with 2 teams travelling at once.

If all the teams are involved, it would just be like the old school reserves playing the same team as the A’s do.

You will probably just see a lot more double headers, particularly for games on Saturday and Sunday.

The current VFL isn’t opposed to starting league games at 1100.

This weeks Power game clashes directly with the Magpies game. Just another reason that we need out of this set up...

Happens all the time in the VFL given its current structure.

Last week Norths played Essendon in the AFL, starting at 1310 on Sunday, whilst in the VFL it started at 1430 at Windy Hill.

About 3 people would have been at Windy Hill.

 

[Portmagpies36]

No idea why they couldn't move that SANFL game to Sunday.

Visentini, Anasta and whoever the sub is could have all played vs South.

We should demand it

 

[Enviable Tradition]

So if we leave the SANFL for the VFL next year do our top ups get to play SOO against the SANFL?

Because a Port player kicking the sealer to down the SANFL would be the best thing ever.

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[backtozero]

I don't see any reason why the AFL would be concerned about the SA clubs being more competitive in an even competition like the VFL. What's in it for them?

 

[bringbackbucky]

Retire the PB for ever. It's done its job.

With the current restrictions on player recruitment, Power reserves should play in the SANFL reserves.

 

[Bump Bailey]

So...we've basically downed tools in the SANFL, cue in the rack happy to get belted every week in the PBs because we thought we were out the door to an AFL reserves comp, and now it's not even happening?

And what if the VFL thing doesn't happen? We're just going to be a Div 3 SAAFL team masquerading as a SANFL team for the next few years, continuing to defecate on a great legacy?

Hope someone down there has a Plan B

 

[ibd77]

So...we've basically downed tools in the SANFL, cue in the rack happy to get belted every week in the PBs because we thought we were out the door to an AFL reserves comp, and now it's not even happening?

And what if the VFL thing doesn't happen? We're just going to be a Div 3 SAAFL team masquerading as a SANFL team for the next few years, continuing to defecate on a great legacy?

Hope someone down there has a Plan B

We can still join the VFL, just means we will play under the VFL rules instead of the AFL rules which should have been put in place by now.

The AFL is too focused on social matters rather than matters of the game at hand. Gils replacement should have been a football based person like Brendan Gale. But we get a jockey in Dillon running the competition.

 

[RossFC]

We should easily get into the VFL if QLD teams are in it.

 

[Buget]

We should easily get into the VFL if QLD teams are in it.

The NSW/QLD teams had no other option when the AFL killed the NEAFL.

 

[RossFC]

The NSW/QLD teams had no other option when the AFL killed the NEAFL.

Aspley later decided to join the QAFL instead of staying in the VFL.

Southport probably do the same when a reserves comp starts.

 

[crows dude]

So if we leave the SANFL for the VFL next year do our top ups get to play SOO against the SANFL?

Because a Port player kicking the sealer to down the SANFL would be the best thing ever.

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Its not State of Origin. Its just State. So yes if they are VFL players they will be able to play for the VFL.

 

[Buget]

So do the QLD/NSW AFL reserve teams, who play VFL have top up players selected in the Victorian state team?

Even though they play their home games in QLD/NSW and probably live on QLD/NSW?

Wow, I missed that fact that Victoria was actually the whole eastern sea board.

Edit: just looked that the 2024 VFL state team, seems like they were all from Victoria.

 

[crows dude]

So do the QLD/NSW AFL reserve teams, who play VFL have top up players selected in the Victorian state team?

Even though they play their home games in QLD/NSW and probably live on QLD/NSW?

Wow, I missed that fact that Victoria was actually the whole eastern sea board.

Edit: just looked that the 2024 VFL state team, seems like they were all from Victoria.

Initial squad had plenty

Smithy's VFL State Team squad announced

A 50-player Smithy’s VFL State Team squad has been announced ahead of the representative clash against the SANFL in Glenelg during the AFL Gather Round

www.afl.com.au

Name	Club
Callum Brown	Box Hill Hawks
Tyler Brown	Box Hill Hawks
Cal Porter	Box Hill Hawks
Kyle Dunkley	Brisbane Lions
Ewan Macpherson	Brisbane Lions
Ned Cahill	Carlton
Lachlan Young	Carlton
Campbell Hustwaite	Casey Demons
Roan Steele	Casey Demons
Mitch White	Casey Demons
Flynn Gentile	Coburg
Sam Glover	Collingwood
Ned Long	Collingwood
Jackson Hately	Essendon
Xavier O'Neill	Essendon
Trent Bianco	Footscray Bulldogs
Josh Chatfield	Footscray Bulldogs
Phoenix Spicer	Footscray Bulldogs
George Grey	Frankston
Trent Mynott	Frankston
Bailey Van De Heuvel	Geelong Cats
Sam Lowson	North Melbourne
Jack Watkins	North Melbourne
Jean-Luc Velissaris	Northern Bullants
Tom Highmore	Port Melbourne
Harvey Hooper	Port Melbourne
Robbie McComb	Port Melbourne
Roarke Smith	Port Melbourne
Mutaz El Nour	Richmond
Joel Garner	Richmond
Lachlan Street	Richmond
Hugo Hall-Kahan	Sandringham
Darby Hipwell	Sandringham
Brayden Crossley	Southport Sharks
Jacob Dawson	Southport Sharks
Hugh Dixon	Southport Sharks
Ben Jepson	Southport Sharks
Max Pescud	Southport Sharks
Boyd Woodcock	Southport Sharks
Jake Bartholomaeus	Sydney Swans
Dom Brew	Werribee
Nathan Cooper	Werribee
Kye Declase	Werribee
Hudson Garoni	Werribee
Nick Hayes	Werribee
Jack Henderson	Werribee
Sam Paea	Werribee
Louis Pinnuck	Werribee
Tom Downie	Williamstown
Brodie McLaughlin	Williamstown

 

[Rising Power]

So do the QLD/NSW AFL reserve teams, who play VFL have top up players selected in the Victorian state team?

Even though they play their home games in QLD/NSW and probably live on QLD/NSW?

Wow, I missed that fact that Victoria was actually the whole eastern sea board.

Edit: just looked that the 2024 VFL state team, seems like they were all from Victoria.

Boyd Woodcock, a South Australian playing for a Queensland team donned the Big V.