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I'll support Geelong playing finals in Geelong when they actually decide to play all 11 home games there.
Which will be never.
Which will be never.
Geelong must be allowed to play at Simonds
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Kardinia Park as from 2017 will hold 36k and will increase in time to 40K with final stage. Therefore home final with expected crowd of 40K or less should be played at KP, however a crowd in excess should should be played at 'G'.
NOTE - Small crowds at 'G' have no atmosphere and should be avoided at all costs for a FINAL, hence Cats having home final with smaller crowd logical way to go, otherwise for bigger crowds the MCG is a 'must'.
NOTE - Small crowds at 'G' have no atmosphere and should be avoided at all costs for a FINAL, hence Cats having home final with smaller crowd logical way to go, otherwise for bigger crowds the MCG is a 'must'.
For 100 year finals were played at neutral venues. Then, when the league expanded, interstate teams were eventually allowed to have finals in their home state where they finished higher.
Was there an official announcement that finals are now at home grounds? suburban and state league host most finals at neutral venues. As it should be (unless different states).
Geelong should play their finals at whatever venue in Victoria that will provide the largest crowd. Which, unless you are playing GWS, GC, Freo or Port in a elimination, or semi, is the MCG.
Was there an official announcement that finals are now at home grounds? suburban and state league host most finals at neutral venues. As it should be (unless different states).
Geelong should play their finals at whatever venue in Victoria that will provide the largest crowd. Which, unless you are playing GWS, GC, Freo or Port in a elimination, or semi, is the MCG.
Pretty sure it's never happened in 157 years.
Let's hope the bombers never get an Etihad final. They don't play all 11 there either......
I completely agree with this.
Geelong should play finals at KP/SS against the following opponents: Brisbane, Freo, Gold Coast, GWS, North, Port and St Kilda.
You could argue that WC and Adelaide should play KP/SS as well, but i could see both of those clubs pulling enough to make the MCG worthwhile. I certainly wouldn't complain if those games were scheduled there.
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Etihad based teams would never be allowed to host prelim finals at Etihad, they'd be hosted at the MCG, so I don't see why Geelong should be any different.
No chance we'd play finals against the Cats at Kardinia Park, back in 2009/10 we were getting crowds to Geelong v St Kilda games in excess of 60k.
No chance we'd play finals against the Cats at Kardinia Park, back in 2009/10 we were getting crowds to Geelong v St Kilda games in excess of 60k.
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The Grand Final is played at the MCG, so I would think Geelong (and every other team for that matter) would want to play as many games there as possible.
I don't think Kardinia offers the Cats much advantage anyway (in finals) - as seen when they played a home final against Freo there.
Btw Sydney would have definitely still lost to GWS on the weekend had it been played at the SCG - I don't particularly like Ross Lyon but I liked his "anyone, anywhere, any time" mantra (which ultimately didnt include the Hawks at the MCG)
but seriously, I think if the Cats start public whingeing about being unable to play at Kardinia they are projecting weakness that needn't be invoked. They should be ecstatic with a prelim at the MCG against an interstate team.
I don't think Kardinia offers the Cats much advantage anyway (in finals) - as seen when they played a home final against Freo there.
Btw Sydney would have definitely still lost to GWS on the weekend had it been played at the SCG - I don't particularly like Ross Lyon but I liked his "anyone, anywhere, any time" mantra (which ultimately didnt include the Hawks at the MCG)
but seriously, I think if the Cats start public whingeing about being unable to play at Kardinia they are projecting weakness that needn't be invoked. They should be ecstatic with a prelim at the MCG against an interstate team.
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I'm not fussed, i have no issue playing at the MCG. Geelong are a draw card and its supporter base in Melbourne has grown substantially in recent years. Geelong V Adelaide for example would see half the city of churches turn up here....60k plus for that game. Crows fans are nuts!
Fair point. But how about GWS play by the same rules and have their final at ANZ (largest ground attendance wise in NSW like the G is for Vic)?
Totally agree mate..
Before I say anything I will say I want us playing as many finals at the G as possible. But the season? WHY should Geelong not be able to play in Geelong? We are a region based side and the oldest one in the comp (i think). Have a think please.
Out of interest, what percentage of Geelong members are Melbourne-based?
I can see both sides. I want as many games at the G as possible. But the reason we play finals there is it is the biggest stadium in the state. And fair enough too. ANZ and the SCG are bigger stadiums than Spotless. Yet GWS will play their prelim at Spotless. That is a farcical double standard.
Not sure but not enough that it makes it worthwhile or rational in any way for us to play 'home' games against sides like yours, St Kilda, Essendon, North, Carlton and Richmond at the Docklands like we have over the years.
Cool, thanks for letting me know..
Plenty will for any final at Spotless. Specially if Hawthorn make it through. At least 5-10k i'd estimate.
It does. But that's not what is going to happen. And that is why people are unhappy. Not just Cat fans either.
Oh yeah their fixture hasn't been soft enough and giving their prelim opponent only a six day break isn't soft enough, let's let them play at a quaint little rural pasture where they train as well.
Fair call. If a rule on that was made I for one wouldn't argue it.
I must admit I don't have any sympathy for Geelong on this matter.
There are two things in the fixture which clubs can benefit from.
1. A significant home ground advantage (9 clubs - the 8 non-vic clubs plus Geelong - benefit from this)
2. Minimal interstate travel (the 10 Victorian clubs benefit from this)
17 of the 18 clubs have either "1" or "2" but not both.
There is only one club in the AFL that benefits from both. Now that's partly good management from Geelong to keep their own home ground, but it is still a huge advantage year after year, every year for eternity.
The only way this advantage is neutralized is if the Cats play exactly as many "away travel" games as they do home games at Kardinia Park (that being 8)
There are two things in the fixture which clubs can benefit from.
1. A significant home ground advantage (9 clubs - the 8 non-vic clubs plus Geelong - benefit from this)
2. Minimal interstate travel (the 10 Victorian clubs benefit from this)
17 of the 18 clubs have either "1" or "2" but not both.
There is only one club in the AFL that benefits from both. Now that's partly good management from Geelong to keep their own home ground, but it is still a huge advantage year after year, every year for eternity.
The only way this advantage is neutralized is if the Cats play exactly as many "away travel" games as they do home games at Kardinia Park (that being 8)
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Ah so finals area bout bums on seats and not winning games, phew good to know
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