Banter Geelong V Richmond - GO!

[Wosh]

In the interests of keeping your back and forth shite fights out of match threads so normal people can talk.

Keep it clean and above the shorts
Off topic rubbish clogging up match threads will be moved here, knock yourselves out.

 

[Mr Meow]

I gave you the 5, I honestly don’t know after that.

In order and it needs to get to Ablett (even if he is 50th), or you concede Ablett is the best finals performer 2007-2010. Go!

 

[Cleansweep17]

In order and it needs to get to Ablett (even if he is 50th), or you concede Ablett is the best finals performer 2007-2010. Go!

1. Hodge

2. Bartel

3. Chapman

4. Johnson

5. Hayes

6. Pendlebury

7. N Riewoldt

8. C Rioli

9. Swan

10. Buddy

11. GAJ

That’s why he’s not known as a great finals player. 2 of 4 years where Geelong won flags and doesn’t crack the top 10. Couldn’t even kick more than 2 goals which let’s him down a lot.

 

[caveman72]

Ok so would GAS’s 89 GF performance been seen as better or worse if you guys just won it?

I know you know the answer, I’ve heard you say it many times about some of Snr and Jnr’s prelims.

This is a fundamental value of sporting fans.

FFS he was rated as best on ground How would that have changed if the Cats had won?

 

[Cleansweep17]

Neale was great in 50% of his 2020 finals. Martin was great in 75% of his finals, but in a better side that got to play 4 finals instead of 2.

And that's what has in your eyes made him overcome Neale having over twice as many coaches votes before the finals series started.

Swap the teams Neale and Martin played for and you would have Neale so far ahead of Martin it isn't funny. Martin would've simply sunk with the Lions in the prelim like Neale did. Remember we KNOW what Martin played like in losing finals: 2013 EF, 2014 EF, 2015 EF, 2018 PF, 2022 EF: he crumbled.

He was great in 1 final (50%) that’s just not good enough or even close to the Finals MVP and NS medalist.

Swap Dusty and Neale and Richmond may not have won it.

You cannot grasp the concept that some players elevate their game in finals. I can’t even remember a time that Neale kicked 5 goals (adjusted). That’s what Dusty did in the GF.

You’ve picked injured and out of prime years and using that as evidence. Have some credibility please.

 

[caveman72]

1. Hodge

2. Bartel

3. Chapman

4. Johnson

5. Hayes

6. Pendlebury

7. N Riewoldt

8. C Rioli

9. Swan

10. Buddy

11. GAJ

That’s why he’s not known as a great finals player. 2 of 4 years where Geelong won flags and doesn’t crack the top 10. Couldn’t even kick more than 2 goals which let’s him down a lot.

And this is why most posters on here think you have NFI. Sometimes I think you take longer to reply is to exchange feet

 

[Cleansweep17]

FFS he was rated as best on ground How would that have changed if the Cats had won?

So are you saying you wouldn’t have seen his game as better if you guys won it?

A massive comeback from behind kicking 9 maybe even 10 goals to just win it and break a premiership drought.

 

[FreddyTwoShoes]

FFS he was rated as best on ground How would that have changed if the Cats had won?

Best best on ground maybe?
Falcon’s very hard to please.

 

[Mr Meow]

He was great in 1 final (50%) that’s just not good enough or even close to the Finals MVP and NS medalist.

Swap Dusty and Neale and Richmond may not have won it.

You cannot grasp the concept that some players elevate their game in finals. I can’t even remember a time that Neale kicked 5 goals (adjusted). That’s what Dusty did in the GF.

You’ve picked injured and out of prime years and using that as evidence. Have some credibility please.

But he didn't get to play in a semi final or grand final. Would you blame him for that, or his team?

Swap Dusty with Rayner and Richmond might not win it. But Neale was a high performer, he didn't drop his bundle in a knockout final like he did in the 2023 grand final. So that's the difference.

Neale doesn't play forward so your goals comparison makes no sense.

 

[caveman72]

So are you saying you wouldn’t have seen his game as better if you guys won it?

A massive comeback from behind kicking 9 maybe even 10 goals to just win it and break a premiership drought.

He did kick 9

 

[Mr Meow]

So are you saying you wouldn’t have seen his game as better if you guys won it?

A massive comeback from behind kicking 9 maybe even 10 goals to just win it and break a premiership drought.

His '89 grand final is rated higher than any of Martin's winning grand finals, which just goes to show that having your side be better than the other side doesn't automatically put your performance above a winning team's best player's performance.

Buckley almost dragged his side over the line against one of the best sides this century in 2002. If Rocca's "goal" goes through and Collingwood win, it wouldn't somehow meant Buckley played better than he already did. Likewise Voss' epic last quarter wouldn't be downgraded if Aker hits the post with his late snap and Brisbane lose.

This really shouldn't need to be explained.

 

[caveman72]

He was great in 1 final (50%) that’s just not good enough or even close to the Finals MVP and NS medalist.

Swap Dusty and Neale and Richmond may not have won it.

You cannot grasp the concept that some players elevate their game in finals. I can’t even remember a time that Neale kicked 5 goals (adjusted). That’s what Dusty did in the GF.

You’ve picked injured and out of prime years and using that as evidence. Have some credibility please.

Have you ever considered that you may be wrong and that it is you who can't grasp the concept. This may come as a surprise to you people do have their own opinions and they can be different from your own.

 

[Mr Meow]

Have you ever considered that you may be wrong and that it is you who can't grasp the concept. This may come as a surprise to you people do have their own opinions and they can be different from your own.

I'm dying to know what he thinks about Lockett's St Kilda period. Only played in a couple of finals. Surely Ablett would be automatically ahead?

Even at Sydney he only played more than two finals in a given season once - 1996.

The "Lachie Neale 2020" system would have essentially all of Lockett's career knocked off as a waste of time, the "best loser".

 

[Wojcinski]

Richmond has missed the finals in 33 of the last 43 seasons, why is this thread even a thing? Peasant club that doesn't belong in the same breath as Geelong

 

[Cleansweep17]

He did kick 9

That fact you guys can’t answer a simple question is telling.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Have you ever considered that you may be wrong and that it is you who can't grasp the concept. This may come as a surprise to you people do have their own opinions and they can be different from your own.

Concept of what. Preferring finals specialists over H&A players. Yeah I’m so wrong.

 

[Cleansweep17]

His '89 grand final is rated higher than any of Martin's winning grand finals, which just goes to show that having your side be better than the other side doesn't automatically put your performance above a winning team's best player's performance.

Buckley almost dragged his side over the line against one of the best sides this century in 2002. If Rocca's "goal" goes through and Collingwood win, it wouldn't somehow meant Buckley played better than he already did. Likewise Voss' epic last quarter wouldn't be downgraded if Aker hits the post with his late snap and Brisbane lose.

This really shouldn't need to be explained.

I didn’t say compared to martins.

Can you please answer the question, like for real why are you constantly so difficult.

 

[caveman72]

That fact you guys can’t answer a simple question is telling.

There have been a multitude you have been asked that you have failed to answer. Mr pot

 

[caveman72]

I didn’t say compared to martins.

Can you please answer the question, like for real why are you constantly so DIFFICULT.

 

[TigerTime88]

Richmond has missed the finals in 33 of the last 43 seasons, why is this thread even a thing? Peasant club that doesn't belong in the same breath as Geelong

The irony of a Geelong supporter calling someone a peasant.

Cute you mention finals. Flogged you in the last 3 QF, Prelim, Granny!

 

[GastevsBeard]

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

reckon if Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

keeps yapping post-game we can all become mates

 

[Cleansweep17]

There have been a multitude you have been asked that you have failed to answer. Mr pot

I’ve answered all. You don’t like the answers so you think I’m not answering it.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Not only has Richmond dominated geelong in finals 10-2, Richmond have made the grand final every time we beat geelong in a final winning 8

geelong the stepping stone

 

[kreuze_missile]

Richmond are closer to their next flag.

Let that sink in Cats fans. Wow.

 

[Wojcinski]

Richmond are closer to their next flag.

Let that sink in Cats fans. Wow.

and yet both would be closer than Carlton

 

[blaisee]

Tonight’s result is what happens when key players are injured