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Saw this in the Melbourne papers this morning. Is he worth pursuing, if we re-arrange our ruck stocks?

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Swan may head south next winter
Stephen Rielly | September 6, 2007
SYDNEY ruckman Darren Jolly may play his last game for the Swans this weekend, with the lure of a return to Victoria said to be tempting him away from the SCG.

The 25-year-old, who will split Sydney's centre-square responsibilities with Peter Everitt in Saturday night's elimination final against Collingwood, is out of contract at the end of the season and is understood to be contemplating a return to Melbourne to resettle his wife and infant daughter closer to family.

Sydney general manager of football Andrew Ireland is to meet Jolly's manager, Michael Quinlan, tomorrow in the hope of further negotiations but said he was aware of Jolly's "circumstances".

"Darren has not conveyed that (his departure) to us at this point," Ireland said. "We're having discussions with his management and we certainly understand his circumstances, but we're hopeful of retaining him. He's definitely required."

Originally from regional Victoria, Jolly started his career with Melbourne seven seasons ago as a promoted rookie. Four years later, at the end of 2004, he was traded north for Sydney's first-round pick, selection 15, with which the Demons selected Lynden Dunn.

It is understood that as many as six clubs have expressed interest in acquiring Jolly, who played in Sydney's drought-breaking 2005 premiership in his first year with the club.

The Western Bulldogs, Carlton, St Kilda, Melbourne, Richmond and Collingwood are all in the market for ruckmen in a year that isn't offering many opportunities to recruit one through the draft.

It is understood that Adelaide is prepared to release John Meesen in a trade and Brisbane Lion Cameron Wood, who is contracted for next year, is also likely to make a move given Jamie Charman's hold on the first ruck position with the Lions, Matthew Leuenberger's emergence this year and the fact Beau McDonald is contracted for another season.

Both Meesen and Wood, though, are inexperienced and some way from fulfilling front-line duties. Jolly is not.

Meanwhile, Hawthorn key forward Mitch Thorp, 18, had his second hip operation of the year yesterday and is likely to have a slow start to his 2008 pre-season.

Thorp had cartilage trimmed from his hip before his first season with the Hawks began but required what the club described as "bony surfaces" shaved from the joint yesterday.

The nature of the second operation was preferred to a more serious measure, a realignment of his hips.

"There was the suggestion of a surgical realignment of his hips but we've decided against that," said Hawthorn football operations manager, Mark Evans, who added that Thorp was likely to take a number of months to recover fully.

"The first one involved a six- or seven-week recovery," Evans said.

"This one might be slightly longer than that, but we're not expecting the surgery to seriously disrupt his pre-season, although it's fair to say he will start on a modified program."
 
IMO, another ruckman should not be a priority even if we lose Meesen, as we have plenty.

Pacy midfielder &/or forward crumbers should be our priority.

However, it could all depend on how active we are in trade week & the vlaue put on some of these players.
 

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isnt wood from west adelaide?

we should always be looking at bringing home our players as they settle down and play better footy when coming home.
 
IMO, another ruckman should not be a priority even if we lose Meesen, as we have plenty.

Pacy midfielder &/or forward crumbers should be our priority.

However, it could all depend on how active we are in trade week & the value put on some of these players.

Do you reckon Craig will go against his instincts, and be active in the upcoming trade period?

It seems that each draft period has some good midfielders with pace, and goalsneaks drop to the lower regions of the draft. Therefore it probably wouldn't be wise to "sell the farm" to trade for such a player, unless he's an out & out champ, or comes dirt cheap.

I'd be keener to trade for quality big men, they usually take longer to develop, if they ever, plus getting someone with a bit of experience, there is no guess work involved
 
Personally I like the idea of getting Wood. While we appear to have some depth in ruck ATM, we are almost certain to lose Meesen and when he goes, we are left with 4 ruck options. Biglands at best has 2 seasons left in him, if he isnt traded or delisted which seems to be the popular opinion around here. If that happens then that leaves just 3. Hudson isnt young but has a good 4 years or so, while Griff and Maric granted are coming along reasonably well. However if we have one ruck injured which is fairly likely, then we are down to 2, and 2 isnt enough IMO. If we lose Meesen and Biglands, then another ruckman is required IMO, and Wood being an SA boy would be a good fit.

FWIW, I dont consider Tippet or Sellar as rucks, they are forwards who could ruck a bit at AFL level IMO. I certainly dont think we should be relying on them to become our ruckmen in the future.
 
Personally I like the idea of getting Wood. While we appear to have some depth in ruck ATM, we are almost certain to lose Meesen and when he goes, we are left with 4 ruck options. Biglands at best has 2 seasons left in him, if he isnt traded or delisted which seems to be the popular opinion around here. If that happens then that leaves just 3. Hudson isnt young but has a good 4 years or so, while Griff and Maric granted are coming along reasonably well. However if we have one ruck injured which is fairly likely, then we are down to 2, and 2 isnt enough IMO. If we lose Meesen and Biglands, then another ruckman is required IMO, and Wood being an SA boy would be a good fit.

FWIW, I dont consider Tippet or Sellar as rucks, they are forwards who could ruck a bit at AFL level IMO. I certainly dont think we should be relying on them to become our ruckmen in the future.
But we don't need another ruckman of Maric's & Griffin's age with Meesen leaving. We have more of a need for a ready-made midfielder to take over from Edwards & Co. Hudson, Biglands, Maric & Griffin with Tippet/Sellar as backup if things become dire is plenty. We should however look at drafting either on the main or rookie list another ruckman if Meesen leaves.
 
Do you reckon Craig will go against his instincts, and be active in the upcoming trade period?
I hope so, as we have some players who in both theirs &/or clubs interest should change clubs. ie. Meesen, McGregor, Perrie, Mattner & Jericho.

It seems that each draft period has some good midfielders with pace, and goalsneaks drop to the lower regions of the draft. Therefore it probably wouldn't be wise to "sell the farm" to trade for such a player, unless he's an out & out champ, or comes dirt cheap.

I'd be keener to trade for quality big men, they usually take longer to develop, if they ever, plus getting someone with a bit of experience, there is no guess work involved
I agree big men take longer to develop - but at the moment we have too many ruckmen on our list & it is a perfect opportunity to get another quality midfielder as Edwards & Goodwin won't be around for ever.
 
Mainly talking about big key position players, plus maybe one experienced, mid age ruckman who can take the place of Biglands & leaves you free to trade Meesen, if that can be arranged
 
"... It is understood that as many as six clubs have expressed interest in acquiring Jolly, who played in Sydney's drought-breaking 2005 premiership in his first year with the club.

The Western Bulldogs, Carlton, St Kilda, Melbourne, Richmond and Collingwood are all in the market for ruckmen in a year that isn't offering many opportunities to recruit one through the draft."
Is he serious? This is a boom draft for ruckmen. Granted... they won't be ready for a few seasons. :confused:
 
But we don't need another ruckman of Maric's & Griffin's age with Meesen leaving. We have more of a need for a ready-made midfielder to take over from Edwards & Co. Hudson, Biglands, Maric & Meesen with Tippet/Sellar as backup if things become dire is plenty. We should however look at drafting either on the main or rookie list another ruckman if Meesen leaves.

Spot on
 

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Wood>>>Meesen

Lions game didn't suggestb this, but it it irrelevant as to which is better.

We have Maric & Griffin of a similar age, so we don't need either.
 
Is he serious? This is a boom draft for ruckmen. Granted... they won't be ready for a few seasons. :confused:


That's just hype - there are only two or three ruckmen worthy of a top-40 pick. It is just that one of them will be pick no 1.
 
That's just hype - there are only two or three ruckmen worthy of a top-40 pick. It is just that one of them will be pick no 1.
If you count McEvoy as a ruckman, then there's at least four that will go top 40 IMHO. Maybe more.
 
We should go all out for Wood. An absolute GUN of a talent, a genuine 204cm mobile tap ruckman in the Cox mould is something we need. He may not be as good as big Cox but he is a lot better than anything we have on our list atm. A good ruckman is essential to any team, espec one who can TAP it to the rover. ESSENTIAL. I cannot emphasise that enough.
 

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We should go all out for Wood. An absolute GUN of a talent, a genuine 204cm mobile tap ruckman in the Cox mould is something we need. He may not be as good as big Cox but he is a lot better than anything we have on our list atm. A good ruckman is essential to any team, espec one who can TAP it to the rover. ESSENTIAL. I cannot emphasise that enough.


I agree. Regardless of how many ruckman we have on our list, if an outstanding prospect is available and wants to return home, then it would be remiss of us not to have a genuine crack at him.

As I said, from what I have seen of Meesen and Wood, Wood is a much better prospect. Meesen just looks terrible.
 

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