Yeah I'm pretty sure that 14 is young enough that you can be enrolled in an academy - I think NGA specifically the 'cutoff' is they have to have been involved in the academy before they were 16. But it might also be different depending on whether its NGA or regular academy, and the rules are really sporadically published across the AFL and club websites rather than the AFL just maintaining a single half decent website to provide governance over the system as a whole.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure that 14 is young enough that you can be enrolled in an academy - I think NGA specifically the 'cutoff' is they have to have been involved in the academy before they were 16. But it might also be different depending on whether its NGA or regular academy, and the rules are really sporadically published across the AFL and club websites rather than the AFL just maintaining a single half decent website to provide governance over the system as a whole.
Thanks. I am lazy and rely a fair bit on posters here to keep me informed especially with "rules" and process around trading and drafting. It is hard to find any info on the AFL site.
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Can't see any serious candidates on the radar. I think similar to the last 3 years we probably won't target anyone specific and just facilitate any trades that come along. Draft year again
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Just jeremy cameron.
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Can't see that one being a serious one
As in unlikely to happen or you don't think the club views it as a real possibility?
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Mostly just unlikely.
He looks settled, in a side that is competing at the same level with a younger list than us and greater list depth. Historically the cats also don't pay huge sums of money. I just don't see it
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He has some nice things to work with
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Figured this post belongs in here given our great draft haul for 2020, and the speculation that will happen all year on how to use it.
Despite no top end selections in over a decade, and 2014-16 trading away picks for ready made talent, we have quietly been completely overhauling our list for the next generation of cats. By season 2024, our team will not feature Selwood, Danger, Hawkins, Taylor, Blicavs, Guthrie, Tuohy, Stevens and Duncan. Whilst it's hard to stomach watching bottom feeder sides continuously bottom out and take all the elite talent at the top of the draft, it is not all gloom and doom. Wells and co have copped their fair share of criticism on our highest draft picks over the journey, names like Tenace, Thurlow, Lang and Smedts all bring back horrible memories. But this is why Wells continues to be the most respected list manager in the comp, and their work with limited assets in the past 3 years is nothing short of astounding. Below is a snapshot of our draft picks since 2016, only trades i've included are ones that will impact the club from 2023/24 onwards.
2016
P26 - Brandon Parfitt
P40 - Tom Stewart
P43 - Esava Ratugolea
P60 - Quinton Narkle
Rookie Draft - Jack Henry, Zach Guthrie
Cat B Rookie - Mark O'connor
2017
P22 - Lachie Fogarty
P24 - Tim Kelly
P36 - Charlie Constable
P57 - Gryan Miers
2018
Pick 43 for Nathan Kreuger
P15 - Jordan Clark
P48 -Ben Jarvis
P50 - Jacob Kennerley
Rookie Draft - Tom Atkins
Cat B Rookie - Stefan Okunbor and Blake Schlensog
2019
Tim Kelly for P14, 24, Future 1st
P27 for Gold Coast P11 (2020)
P16 - Cooper Stephens
P19 - Sam De Koning
P41 - Francis Evans
P50 Cameron Taheny
Rookie Draft - Brad Close
That is a remarkable draft haul despite never getting higher than pick 15, not to mention the three 1st rounders for 2020.
Best 22 - 2024 (left blank is the key positions that need addressing in a best 18)
B: O'Connor De Koning Kolo
HB: Z.Guthrie Henry Stewart
C: Clark Stephens (Wing)
HF: Fogarty Krueger Cockatoo
FF: Taheny Ratugolea Miers
Foll (Ruck) Parfitt Constable
Int: Atkins Narkle Okunbor Evans
Not sure about other cats fan, but that is a seriously talented team. There are two glaring deficiencies in my opinion, a genuine ruck (going on ten years now) and elite midfielders (who knows how stephens and co develop). The key aspect of that team that I love, is they all get to develop under some of the best players in the comp and players who were instrumental in creating the culture at our club, Selwood, Danger, Hawkins and Taylor.
With all that being said, and the cats being linked to names like Jeremy Cameron, I for one would love to see us use at least two first rounders in this upcoming draft, unless the option is trading for future 1st picks to improve position or elite talent under 23. Wasting picks on players 27 or older, in a list profile that is aiming to peak in 4-5 years is madness.
Love to hear others thoughts.
Despite no top end selections in over a decade, and 2014-16 trading away picks for ready made talent, we have quietly been completely overhauling our list for the next generation of cats. By season 2024, our team will not feature Selwood, Danger, Hawkins, Taylor, Blicavs, Guthrie, Tuohy, Stevens and Duncan. Whilst it's hard to stomach watching bottom feeder sides continuously bottom out and take all the elite talent at the top of the draft, it is not all gloom and doom. Wells and co have copped their fair share of criticism on our highest draft picks over the journey, names like Tenace, Thurlow, Lang and Smedts all bring back horrible memories. But this is why Wells continues to be the most respected list manager in the comp, and their work with limited assets in the past 3 years is nothing short of astounding. Below is a snapshot of our draft picks since 2016, only trades i've included are ones that will impact the club from 2023/24 onwards.
2016
P26 - Brandon Parfitt
P40 - Tom Stewart
P43 - Esava Ratugolea
P60 - Quinton Narkle
Rookie Draft - Jack Henry, Zach Guthrie
Cat B Rookie - Mark O'connor
2017
P22 - Lachie Fogarty
P24 - Tim Kelly
P36 - Charlie Constable
P57 - Gryan Miers
2018
Pick 43 for Nathan Kreuger
P15 - Jordan Clark
P48 -Ben Jarvis
P50 - Jacob Kennerley
Rookie Draft - Tom Atkins
Cat B Rookie - Stefan Okunbor and Blake Schlensog
2019
Tim Kelly for P14, 24, Future 1st
P27 for Gold Coast P11 (2020)
P16 - Cooper Stephens
P19 - Sam De Koning
P41 - Francis Evans
P50 Cameron Taheny
Rookie Draft - Brad Close
That is a remarkable draft haul despite never getting higher than pick 15, not to mention the three 1st rounders for 2020.
Best 22 - 2024 (left blank is the key positions that need addressing in a best 18)
B: O'Connor De Koning Kolo
HB: Z.Guthrie Henry Stewart
C: Clark Stephens (Wing)
HF: Fogarty Krueger Cockatoo
FF: Taheny Ratugolea Miers
Foll (Ruck) Parfitt Constable
Int: Atkins Narkle Okunbor Evans
Not sure about other cats fan, but that is a seriously talented team. There are two glaring deficiencies in my opinion, a genuine ruck (going on ten years now) and elite midfielders (who knows how stephens and co develop). The key aspect of that team that I love, is they all get to develop under some of the best players in the comp and players who were instrumental in creating the culture at our club, Selwood, Danger, Hawkins and Taylor.
With all that being said, and the cats being linked to names like Jeremy Cameron, I for one would love to see us use at least two first rounders in this upcoming draft, unless the option is trading for future 1st picks to improve position or elite talent under 23. Wasting picks on players 27 or older, in a list profile that is aiming to peak in 4-5 years is madness.
Love to hear others thoughts.
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Interesting post.
In an ideal world I would see De Koning as first ruck. Mobile and naturally talented footballer (developed as a mid before he went past 190 cm). His older brother is filling out - he will too. Finding a KPD or two is easier if working with later picks eg Kolo, Egan, Lonergan.
Having 6 picks a year (ave) in 20/21/22/23 before 2024 sees another 24 kids in which we should find 6 or 7 to challenge those names you have listed. So even if Cockatoo, Fog,Taheny, Okunbor, Evans, Zuthrie don't push on for whatever reason there will be others (having 3 first rounders this year is a good start).
That only leaves a real question mark on class. Will enough of those kids develop far enough to become elite in their position?
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the overall list is good but the ruck deficiency is glaring given how many rucks we have tried since 2011. that we offered Goldstein 4 years shows our inability to get the ruck spot sorted. kpds are easy to find late in drafts so if DK bulks up and shows any ruck ability I think he has to play there as Stanley is meh and nearly 30 and Fort is average at best.
As much as I liked Dek, I think as a player in a group of the top40 against the wall there will be other players like Robertson who probably should have been picked before him. Perhaps our needs, list balance, his height pushed him earlier, perhaps knowing other clubs were hovering.
I hope he comes on a little quicker than one may expect or pressure will mount. Not that I expect him to be a ruck solution any time soon but if we can play some backline games in 2021 then we are on our way. Blitz is as good as he is going to be and in his late 20's. Easier said than done. Im not getting the feeling that a mid like Constable in Y3 is a lock for games. We have already read multiple names that may get a game this year.
How to solve a problem like our Rucks. Almost a Sound of Music song. Thats an area we will just have to keep going hard at , perhaps paying over the odds till we get a much better group if we are to go beyond top up.We have 3 R1 picks this year, but the R1 may float out to mid 20's. If we use one on a young Premium ruck Id not mind. Who knows who... Id think Walsh will pushing for the first half of the draft but how early . No real estimate.
FA's in 2020 . As you say we offered Gold finger 4 years.. if a 25 year old who we liked was available.. I could see us trading for him. We have traded for rucks so often recently , it should not surprise.
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Personally, I don't think that team is 'seriously talented'. I've bolded and underlined the players that have proven nothing so far. Some haven't even played VFL. I'd also argue Kennerley, Jarvis, Close, Parsons, Schlensog and Simpson are much closer to getting a game than De Koning, Okunbor, Evans and Taheny.
Also, it's too hard to say that our list will peak in 4-5 years. Yes, we have the most 18-21 year olds in the comp, but in five years 3/4 of them could be delisted. Only Kolo and Stewart have proven that they will be long-term players for the club, the rest are still very much unproven.
Kennerley Jarvis Schlensog are just like De Koning Evans and Taheny were never getting a game in their first year...and Okunbor is out for the year so cant play
Its thankless task projecting sides too far ahead. My bet somewhere on this site is a projected side for 2020 from back in 2015-2016. Would anyone have had Ablett, Jack Steven, Miers and who knows how many others in it.
Out of that side there are probably 5 players which id say for sure will be on our list in 4 years time. And even then we may come back and one of them have gone. Id have Henry, Stewart, Clark, SavRat, Parfitt..
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This list is aimed at peaking in 4-5 years. Whilst i may be a little overly optimistic, i think it is a little pessimistic to say only kolo and Stewart of that list have proven they will be long term players. I think a strong case could be argued for Sav, Narkle, Parfitt, Miers, Henry, O'connor given their respective bodies of work. My whole point of that post though was to highlight two things, one, our list is in a healthy position, and two, we as supporters shouldn't get disappointed if we don't bring in any gun players through trade or free agency. Our list is in a good position, with a hopefully a couple of solid drafts to come.
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I think when people pick their best side in 2020 is dumb as always some pops up and plays in the best 22 for that year....so how can you pick one in 4 years lol
Kolo doesn’t get a gig? The only one in his age bracket to have clocked 100 games.
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I would throw Miers into that as well
Be one of the Tasmanian Devils big signings 2024.
Id agree he has a strong chance of still being at Geelong.
My names are conservative for if said 75% , it would be a huge increase of numbers. I guess Ican remember watching Bundy in 2011 think there one for the next ten years, Geelong person, happy at Geelong etc. Go's to show almost no name is 100%
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Jarvis looks a good size , I wonder if he will get a chance in the midfield.
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